The unbeatable RI.

Hi,

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Originally Posted by jbonekc

can you please tell me how to start a thread please someone im sorry i wrote on here i just couldnt figure it out

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Go to the forum page where you see the list of threads and there is a "+post new thread" button at the top left. :)

Choose the forum that suits your question best. :gj:


dr del

When snakes start dying off in spite of antibiotic treatments, I think 'virus'. I hope your quarantine is bullet-proof--if it's not, make changes right away. Use bleach to disinfect, not chlorhexadine.
Or even something stronger.

I'm so sorry for your loss ! I'm in the same situation as well. In december my normal female at 16-1700g stopped eating. She was healthy and fine untill about 4 months ago she got an RI. And I've had the same as you going, getting better, then worse, then better, then worse.... She her 3-4 round of antibiotics on a two weeks cure, and about a month ago I bought the F10 and fogger and startet this.. I also decided to assist feed her with rat fuzzie to see if she would eat it, since her weight now is 1098g, and I'm glad to tell she's eating almost every rat fuzzie I've assisted her with. The last one I was giving her (I always dangle it in front of her to see if she'll strike by her self) and she did ! She became better, seemed almost healty for two weeks ago and now it's back to the drawling and breathing noises..... So she's in a new round of antibiotics, still getting fogged(never stopped) and her tub is cleaned and sprayed a thin layer of F10 to airdry. The heat is of course sat up and I don't know what more to do.. She's full of energy though, but for her lenght and year she's pretty thin "/

How long is long enough for the animals? When it goes too long is it better to euthanize the animal or should we keep trying and see if they make it or not ?

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Originally Posted by Genetics

I'm so sorry for your loss ! I'm in the same situation as well. In december my normal female at 16-1700g stopped eating. She was healthy and fine untill about 4 months ago she got an RI. And I've had the same as you going, getting better, then worse, then better, then worse.... She her 3-4 round of antibiotics on a two weeks cure, and about a month ago I bought the F10 and fogger and startet this.. I also decided to assist feed her with rat fuzzie to see if she would eat it, since her weight now is 1098g, and I'm glad to tell she's eating almost every rat fuzzie I've assisted her with. The last one I was giving her (I always dangle it in front of her to see if she'll strike by her self) and she did ! She became better, seemed almost healty for two weeks ago and now it's back to the drawling and breathing noises..... So she's in a new round of antibiotics, still getting fogged(never stopped) and her tub is cleaned and sprayed a thin layer of F10 to airdry. The heat is of course sat up and I don't know what more to do.. She's full of energy though, but for her lenght and year she's pretty thin "/

How long is long enough for the animals? When it goes too long is it better to euthanize the animal or should we keep trying and see if they make it or not ?

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In my eyes, and I haven't had experience with viral- if you even get the chance to fully ID it as a viral... Sometimes if you get conditions just perfect you can get the viral to either die down a lot, or subside, and they can live a "normal" life- if it comes up viral though, and isn't responding to anything, I'd say euthanize it. Too many people put animals through a ton of pain/suffering for the person's hope, when frankly the animal would probably rather be put out of it's misery...

If she's been sick 4 months and nothing is working, I'd put her down myself..

who were the people that you got them from?

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who were the people that you got them from?

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Originally Posted by MMReptiles

Too many people put animals through a ton of pain/suffering for the person's hope, when frankly the animal would probably rather be put out of it's misery..

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This is what I'm thinking also. But again, what signs should you look for to make the decision?

My female has become better after I started with the F10 and fogger, and it isn't long ago since I started with assist feeding so I figured out I would try this for a while to see if it may help.. I'm hoping the food will give her a boom to defeat the RI but if it doesn't work I think I will put her down... But it's hard to put down an animal with lots of energy, and of course - who wants to put down their animal....

The RI here started when I bought a snake from an unknown breeder, I was overexcited to get the snake since the morph isn't so regular here yet and a few weeks after the snake drowled blood.....

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Originally Posted by stickyalvinroll

who were the people that you got them from?

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who were the people that you got them from?

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He was just a local guy with a collection who was looking to get into a different project.

The strange thing is that 2 out of the 5 have NEVER show signs or symptoms of ANY illnesses. It was just these 3 who kept having the RI come back over and over again. None of the rest of my collection have contracted an RI either.

As for Titan, last night we really thought he had died - he was laying inverted and mouth open. But when I opened the tub, he moved so I picked him up and brought him out into the living room with me. I don't know if it was the change in environment, but he seemed to perk right up. I left him in his tub overnight out in the living room, and this morning he looks almost normal. I can't figure it out.

We too discussed euthanizing him after how we found him last night, although I have no idea how to euthanize a snake. Any suggestions would be helpful. Titan is one of my favorites, but I don't want him to suffer needlessly.

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Originally Posted by JulieInNJ

We too discussed euthanizing him after how we found him last night, although I have no idea how to euthanize a snake. Any suggestions would be helpful. Titan is one of my favorites, but I don't want him to suffer needlessly.

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Most humane would be to have your vet do it. Less painful for yourself. But if you are looking for cost effective you could gas chamber like you would for rats. And my least favorite would be the pack him into a shoebox tub and into the freezer. I myself wouldn't do the last one but I do know people who do. I am very sorry for your losses and hope and pray your Titan pulls through for you.

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Originally Posted by H.o.F.R

Most humane would be to have your vet do it. Less painful for yourself. But if you are looking for cost effective you could gas chamber like you would for rats. And my least favorite would be the pack him into a shoebox tub and into the freezer. I myself wouldn't do the last one but I do know people who do. I am very sorry for your losses and hope and pray your Titan pulls through for you.

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Freezing him to death is terrible!

God forbid I ever had to kill one of my snakes but if I did, I'd have hubby take it outside and just smash its head with a brick.

Instant death, no suffering, no stress.

That sounds brutal but it sure beats freezing/gassing or injections with a creature that has a metabolism so slow who knows how long it would take.

This is such a sad thread.

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Change of subject please!! :(
Euthanizing your beloved pet is not something people want to see while reading about treating an RI.
Someone may read this and jump to conclusions prior to spending the money at a vet to try and treat it.