Ball python "mills" *rant* (Not trying to offend anyone)

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Originally Posted by Domepiece

Lol. Yes there are different paradigms in which people hold. Everyone is entitle to their own opinions. I think that your interpretation of my original post is a little skewed, if you go back and re-read it, maybe with some assistance, you can see that I was not forcing my opinions on anyone. However it is a fact that people who love and know what they are doing do better at the things they do than people who do it for less motivating reasons. What is right and what is wrong is open to interpretation. Also, I dont believe that the desire for profit in this industry is wrong, if thats whats getting "your" panties in a bunch. Take care Susan.:banana:

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Actually, you are. You are telling someone what their motivation "should" be to breed. By telling someone what should or shouldn't be their reasoning for their actions, you are forcing your opinions onto them.

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Originally Posted by Domepiece

Lol. Yes there are different paradigms in which people hold. Everyone is entitle to their own opinions. I think that your interpretation of my original post is a little skewed, if you go back and re-read it, maybe with some assistance, you can see that I was not forcing my opinions on anyone. However it is a fact that people who love and know what they are doing do better at the things they do than others. What is right and what is wrong is open to interpretation. Also, I dont believe that the desire for profit in this industry is wrong as long as the snakes are cared for properly, if thats whats getting "your" panties in a bunch. Take care Susan.:banana:

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You are relatively new here, so a word of advice... Don't poke the bear. He probably has more years of experience than you've been alive. He also has the tenacity of a pit bull when it comes to verbal sparring and matching wits. And I wouldn't take him any other way. :-D

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Originally Posted by rabernet

You are relatively new here, so a word of advice... Don't poke the bear. He probably has more years of experience than you've been alive. He also has the tenacity of a pit bull when it comes to verbal sparring and matching wits. And I wouldn't take him any other way. :-D

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Lol, I like his style and I have no doubts on his experience. Just having a little fun at this point plus I agree with and understand 100% what he is saying but I feel that my first post was misinterpreted. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by dart

Actually, you are. You are telling someone what their motivation "should" be to breed. By telling someone what should or shouldn't be their reasoning for their actions, you are forcing your opinions onto them.

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not really, people have many motivations for many things, all I said was that people who have strong motivators and a passion for what they do are generally better at what they do than people without those factors. You cant force opinions on people either, I can give mine, they can either accept them or disregard them. Also my original post is being misinterpreted completely. Stop focusing so much on the first sentence of that post, that is just my opinion (and I can have it, doesnt mean Im looking down on others with different ones), and read the last half.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

You are relatively new here, so a word of advice... Don't poke the bear. He probably has more years of experience than you've been alive. He also has the tenacity of a pit bull when it comes to verbal sparring and matching wits. And I wouldn't take him any other way. :-D

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LOL! My thoughts exactly! Wes has a way of verbaly dismantling you, and he sounds like a poet while doing it! :rolleyes:

I should also point out that the term "mill" in MY mind is a negative nomeclature that illicits negative images. When I think of "mills" I think of breeders with snakes in deplorable conditions, underweight, undercared for, and bred despite their condition just for the thought of $$. I have no problem with large breeding operations or their motivations. Just to reiterate, I did express my motivations, used strong words, and concrete points of views in my original post. In retrospect I should have chosen my words more wisely. Hope that clears up my opinion of this subject. I thought this thread was about the negative "mills" not about my opinions. Just saying.:confused:

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Originally Posted by DemmBalls

LOL! My thoughts exactly! Wes has a way of verbaly dismantling you, and he sounds like a poet while doing it! :rolleyes:

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Idk, I see them trading blows pretty evenly to this point.

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Originally Posted by Rob

Idk, I see them trading blows pretty evenly to this point.

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Wes hasn't even warmed up yet. ;-)

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Originally Posted by rabernet

You are relatively new here, so a word of advice... Don't poke the bear. He probably has more years of experience than you've been alive. He also has the tenacity of a pit bull when it comes to verbal sparring and matching wits. And I wouldn't take him any other way. :-D

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:8::rofl:

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Wes hasn't even warmed up yet. ;-)

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Puppy mill eh? Puppy mills aren't about intentions. They are about shoddy care for the dogs. In a puppy mill, dogs are kept in sub sub sub par conditions and exist solely to breed.

I have yet to see anything similar in the Ball Python world. Ball Pythons kept in sub sub sub par conditions simply won't breed. In fact, they'll probably just die.