Madison, my low grade pastel

Funny because in person her eyes are definitely green not brown. But oh well.
I don't think there's any need to diss on the person I took her to, didn't a ton of you just say it's hard to tell in some cases? He owns other pastels and I got to see them. I thought she looked a good bit like them. I do plan on breeding in the future.
And I'm positive she is female, he popped her and saw absolutely no penes but he did get scent glands out of her, so the lack of penes but with the scent glands showing would be female, wouldn't it? I've also popped her myself numerous times and no penes, whereas it was extremely obvious even with my adult male CleoMantra after about the 7th time I popped him that he was male--he held his penes in but I still got them out eventually.
Not Madison, and she's much younger than him. So not even as strong. And still no penes.

She was sold to me as a normal from a pet store, unsexed, but the pet store are idiots and mislabel animals all the time, and house different species of snakes together. In one tank they have 3 ball pythons and a red tail boa and a carpet python. In ONE tank. Been like that for over a year. They aren't the best, so I figured they could probably not tell a pastel from a normal if it opened its mouth and yelled it at them...lol...The people who work there don't like the snakes and when we said we wanted to look at the pythons the lady did not want to touch them. It was my mom who reached in and grabbed a handful of ball pythons lol.

Anyway I think she is female. Maybe not pastel, but based on the stuff above I'm positive its female, and so no I did not buy her as a pastel. I've had her for almost 2 years now. I always saw her eyes as green not brown even after seeing pastels in person but maybe I'm not a good judge at color. Oh well. Doesn't matter. I will still breed her as a dinker if nothing else and try to get more of that pretty yellow. :) Her tail stripe is a blindingly bright yellow. It's awesome. Maybe it's genetic. :)

Thanks. and no need to diss on the guy I took her to lol...he's not a noob. but you guys did say they are hard to spot. so maybe he made an error. idk. but being mean does not help. :colbert:
Thanks guys. Appreciate the input.

Also one more thing is that she is only 900 grams at the moment, and she has been off feed for a few months. So yes, she looks skinny. She isn't eating. From what I understand that doesn't affect gender....:confused:
She isn't even full grown yet. She's maybe a year and a half old. So....yeah....

Madison is very pretty. Good luck with her, hope she gets back on feed soon!!

thank you she and all my bp's have not been eating. it's worrying me but they aren't losing too much weight so I don't think it's time to force feed or panic just yet. I think I just need to wait and see if they'll eat in the next month or two.
but yeah that would be why she looks a little thin. :( Her weight hasn't gone down much but she isn't as plump and full as she was. sad face

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thank you she and all my bp's have not been eating. it's worrying me but they aren't losing too much weight so I don't think it's time to force feed or panic just yet. I think I just need to wait and see if they'll eat in the next month or two.
but yeah that would be why she looks a little thin. :( Her weight hasn't gone down much but she isn't as plump and full as she was. sad face

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My male OG hasn't eaten since October. My pastels just started eating this month. They haven't been eating since October either. Don't worry about it. Just keep offering lol.

I offer every two weeks or so now so I don't stress them out by offering. lol. Yep, they're doing the ball python thing. :P

my normal has the same color

Normal eyes can look greenish but side by side with a pastel's green eyes there is no comparison. We are not trying to "diss" this "expert" but anybody who has had multiple pastel's and has been breeding should be able to tell with no hesitation that that is clearly not a pastel and it sucks they got your hopes up by telling you it is. But oh well it is what it is. It will be a nice female though once he gets some weight on.

Yes we will breed her as a dinker I think. Thanks for nice comments. And I understand what you meant now about the expert thank you tons. but she's nice regardless i can't wait to breed her pastel or not. :)

It's eyes are not green. The top half of its eyes are a lighter color more similar to hazel, but not pastel green.
It's definitely not a pastel and I can tell that just by the pattern and color.

Here are a pastels eyes..
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2.../MsPics037.jpg

Here is one that would be considered a low-grade browned out pastel.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...sPics008-2.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/DSCF1125.jpg

And a blushed out blonde (right) with a darker pastel (left) which has very little blushing..

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/DSCF1134.jpg

The clean belly of a pastel is wider than just the center scales. The patterning starts closer to the sides of the snake and is much more clean/clear than a normal..

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2.../MsPics029.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2.../MsPics048.jpg




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