Black pastels and cinnamons

[QUOTE=John1982;1767739]Holy cow, that's alot of super black/cinnamon pastels. How many of those had deformities?[/QUOTE

No real deformities besides a few duckbills and maybe a curly tail or 2 but no extreme kinkers or anything like that. And that was with the cinny stuff. The black stuff didnt have any issues. Im not saying it doesnt happen but i didnt see it. Also lines have alot to do with it i believe. I was actualky going to go down and take a pic of one of my acr vanilla black males when i opened the tub to find him doing work.
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I don't suppose you got a picture of a pile 'o supers handy? It'd be a pretty darn cool thing to see, also wouldn't mind seeing how they differ in darkness from one to the next. Thanks for the replies, I definitely want to work with both black pastel and cinnamon pastel in the future but still think I'll avoid supers(just too many cool combos out there without having to hit homozygous on either imo).

I'm shooting for a super black pewter next year, maybe with pin thrown in. If you make sure there is diversity in your lines, I think you should be able to avoid having consistant issues with deformities.

As to your photo proving there is no difference, I must disagree. All it proved is that there are sub par versions of cinnis, but we know that about every morph. I called it right, and aside from a few oddball examples of both morphs, I can pick out which is which 99% of the time.