Annie's STILL not eating :'(

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Reptidude

I agree, Im stating an opinion and they have to go on and call names and crap. Im tired of it, its an OPINION, but the opinion is more safe then others.

---

i'm sorry man but i've read and re-read and i can't find any where i called you a name. However i recall a post with you saying adam and I look like fools...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by fehlend_mich

I don't know why though. A week after the day I bought her I tried to feed her and she backed off, almost scared then she shed so I wasn't worried, but since her shed I've tried to feed her two live mice (at seperate times of course) and all she does is coil, hiding her head and if a mouse gets close to her, she scurries off as if she's scared to death of the thing. When I got her the f'ing turd owner at the pet shop told me that she's a great eater and handed me a feeding card which showed that she ate every ten days and he said that she NEVER passed up food. Any suggestions, would help me SO much.

I'm calling the pet shop Monday to see if that guy was "mistaken" when he said that he fed live, adult mice and even check if he remember if he fed a certain colour.

Thanks!

---

Tho i've never tested it out for myself, i've heard that allowing a mouse/rat to run around a gerbil's house (to get the gerbils scent) might acctually work. As a previous post said, give it a week before attempting to feed again. Dim the lights and give it a try. What i will normally do to save money is offer live, and if it's refused, i'll wack it and stick it in the freezer. A week later i'll thaw it out and offer again. OR...i also have a separate tank set aside with a hide and some food and water for the rat/mouse. Feeding live or f/t is a merely a personal preference. You should try both and do which ever is easier on your wallet and your time. I hope this helps you some.

So I cannot say that point guns at people is wrong because its an opinion. RRRRIGHT, you make sense

Ill take my presence elsewere

you can say whatever you want but just because it is your opinion does not make it fact. obviously in some cases your opinion will coincide with fact, but in the live vs. p/k debate it did not.

thank you nate for attempting to get this thread back on topic. let's hope to see some more of that here.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Reptidude

First of all. Im not calling ANYONE crude

---

So you didn't type ...

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Reptidude

Feading live mice is inhumain and its also crude.

---

---

Logically, it's obvious that since I feed live mice, you were implying that I am crude. I don't appreciate being called names under the spectrum of broad generalizations about which you have no clue.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Reptidude

You took my quote out of text and made me look like an idiot.

---

I didn't make you "look like" anything ... I just asked a few questions ... you're incorrect generalizations, prejudices against people that do things differently from you, and general misuse of the English language in both grammar and spelling allowed readers to form their own conclusions.

BTW ... you still have not listed your "experts".

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Reptidude

I truly love how Nate calls Adam the man, but adam couldnt understand what I wrote.

---

Oh, to the contrary .... I understand exactly what you wrote ... without any first hand experience, you condemned a proven method for feeding ball pythons that people have been using for over 25 years without any problems. You extended your incorrectly perceived notions into a broad umbrella and labeled everyone that does things differently than you as "CRUDE".

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Reptidude

He turned it all around to make me look bad, but in re-turn it just made himself look bad.

---

How exactly do I look bad here? You are the one with a prejudice against people that feed live and you've never fed a live rodent to a snake yourself. Even though you have a method that works for you, you choose to condemn others that have methods that work safely for them. All I asked was that you keep an open mind and not prejudice yourself against people that are different than you. I think you should think again about who looks bad here.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Reptidude

So I cannot say that point guns at people is wrong because its an opinion. RRRRIGHT, you make sense

---

You can do anything you want, but how about you try posting on an NRA forum calling everyone there “crude”. I bet you get a warm reception.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Reptidude

Ill take my presence elsewere

---

Well, that’s breaking my heart for sure! …. Don’t let the proverbial door hit ya in the attitude! ;)

-adam

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Reptidude

Now for your smart remark Nathan. Just because thousands of people have not done it doesnt make it dangerous.

Heres one for you if you think thousands of people have to do it in order for it to be dangerous. Guns- Guns cause fatil injuries, I can judge that even though I have not experienced the situation. Its common sense...

---

hi own a few guns and gun are safe way safer then most cars it's the fools that use the guns for the evil porpose of hurting other and for the untrain ones that think they are ok to keep on the coffee table loaded with childen in the house and yes i have a kid in my house, but i also have a gun safe which holds the guns when not in use. and that is the point i think everyone is tring to say if you use common sense and use safe feeding methods feeding live is almost risk free. i say almost because no matter what you do there is always a risk nomatter how small. and if you think about how many people own snakes of all sizes and feed live and the amount of snakes that are are hurt from the live prey it's minimum.

ha ha....i wake up late and check the boards and there is two pages of more posts here.

The whole point I was trying to get across is that everyone has their own ways. As long as their ways are not harming the snakes then they are ok. It really bothers me when people badmouthing things because of what they have heard other people say. I feed my bps f/t. Thats just the way i do it. I have friends that feed live thats the way they do it. As long as you are doing it properly, both ways are ok.

I have been around guns and weapons of all sorts since I was a child. Never once have I hurt myself or someone else. I know what i am doing. Just like Adam has fed his snakes live food for a long time and never once hurt a snake. He knows what he is doing. If someone is too stupid to feed their animal correctly or use a gun properly, don't put the entire group of people in the same catagory as them.

We have many of wonderful people on this site that have kept snakes for longer than I have been on this earth (and i am 22 yrs. old). When someone gives me advice or makes a suggestion, I always listen. Thats all you have to do is listen. dont get angry. People here are only trying to provide you with CORRECT knowledge on the subject.

how true daniel thats the whole point if done right it safe just like anything.

Wow!
That was really juicy, and didn't have much to do with the original question. Hilarious!
I feed live and don't care whether or not some poo head thinks it's crude and inhumane, it's nature, and it work best for me.
I don't keep a human, I keep a ball bython and he seems to like it.
Sorry, just my two cents.

Wow I missed quite a bit.

This is an on going debate to feed live or fresh killed. There is always a HUGE argument about this maybe once a month. I agree that when done correctly a live prey item can be given to a snake, especially stubborn feeders. I have a female that has been eating nothing but live small rats with some advice from Adam it has been working great. Threads always get hijacked on this subject when it does little to help the person who asked the question in the first place. So if you want to make a thread to argue the pros and cons of live vs fk vs ft make another thread and do all the argueing you want there. Now that I have rang in on that part of the thread let me answer the real question at hand.

I would try feeding Annie at night with all the lights off. Yesterday I got Andromeda a small rat and tried feeding her during the day and she wanted nothing to do with it. Remember if they dont eat within about 5 minutes they probly won't so just try again that night don't disturb your little friend just drop the mouse in and turn off all the lights so its pitch black and see what happens (you can use a blacklight or redlight to view if you wish). If she don't eat then you have a pet mouse for a little bit and just wait till the next scheduled feeding. I have a 20 Gallong Long setup for rats when they dont get eaten right away. So maybe a similar setup can be made for the mice and keeps them very fresh this way. You said the pet store fed every 10 days that is a bit too spaced out for me, its completely acceptable but I like to see my snakes take a meal every week if they will. Good luck and drop us a thread when you have success.

Don't let this tread force you away from these forums people here are very passionate about their animals so things like this seem to happen a lot when you have people with different husbandry practices.