Meet the Screwball

Ok so my 2 cents...
1. You gave it its own special name, u know theres some thing special about it, but when wotn say its a new morphs? but u gave it a name?
2. you made a special baby talked about it but wont show pics? then u shouldnt of metniond it at all. Or just water mark it....
3.Ant we all freinds here trying to help each other with projects? so why is it now a pissing match? we should be helping not hindering.
4. you opend a can of worms but didnt want to open the can? ... just saying this.. if u didnt want this to happen maybe you should of stayed quite or when u did talk about it reveal all your proof to back your self up. seems like u did but its now seems to be over a baby in a freezer? u have it still, u will have it, you might b able to make more, but wont show a pic? souds like a cliam not a fact.

take a picture of it with ur face as a back drop. its hard to fake a face behind a snake.

Hope i didnt come off as rear end. Im happy for you i hope u finish proving it out, i cant wait to see what the baby looks like, if its awesome like you say i hope to buy one off you :) one day lol I hope one day people can be a little more open and sharing and a little less thats my can of beans. But even if it is a new line of pastel or a new blonde pastel its still hot n cant wait to see what it does with ur pairing. Just think if it is new your going to make 3 new combos and 1 new base morph called screwball and your name will be under it picture on every site with ur date of made who can dismiss you and it then?

I will bet anything if ralph or kevin or vin came on here and posted something like this nobody on here would be saying a thing but puckering up. Look the bottom line is i was putting an experience out there and yes i coined it by giving it a name. Heres a question can any of you know name the genetics in every animal the ralph or kevin show pics of? Hell no you cant and wanna know why? Because they want you to buzz about the animal. They may give ya a hint and throw ya a bone with the name of one gene but not the whole puzzle and why? Because it creates a market for the chase to produce or try to produce what they have. I know this when it does produce out i bet you will know where to look for babies. Get over it. It is my decision based on years of dealing with shady people in the snake industry. I have been cheated, ive been lied to, ive been sold the wrong hets, etc etc ive seen it all in 15 years so i have my reasons. Im sure there will still be the know it alls that want to say what they will and thats fine. Ill just charge those guys more for a screwball hahahah

Wow - you guys sure know how to rain on someone's parade. And some of you were down right rude from where I'm sitting. I'm speaking as a participant and not as a staff member.

Snake Lab - I'll be excited to see how your project progresses and thank you for sharing your story. :)

Im not argueing here but ur doing apple n oranges. The flat line is a combo, your is special hidden gene pastel?, or a special pastel?,a base morph dinker. ive seen a few angry post here but most seem to be from mr snake lab attack ppl back over them asking questions. Everyone will be sceptical to a degree until proven wrong then they usually shut up. Take a video instead of pics. And there is alot alot alot of shiester & chislers in the snake world ive met alot, only met 1 nice and helpful person, but not everyone is out to steal from you. Im not a no it all, i just read the post and commented. If you want to attack me n ppl on here for asking to see pictures or asking about your animals past then dont talk about it. And i guess i wont be getting one off you oh well you can get lessers from more then just ralph.

It all boils down to that baby in the freezer (which is called a screwball right? or dad? but wont be varafied by a pic or vid just off ur here say. {in court ud b tossed out by now ;)} ). Oh and what about the mother of the baby pics of her? We know dad is a weird looking blondie looking pastel.

People just wanted some answers to ur statements and lack of pictures, not to be attacked by a paranoid drama troll.

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Originally Posted by Akren_905

Im not argueing here but ur doing apple n oranges. The flat line is a combo, your is special hidden gene pastel?, or a special pastel?,a base morph dinker. ive seen a few angry post here but most seem to be from mr snake lab attack ppl back over them asking questions. Everyone will be sceptical to a degree until proven wrong then they usually shut up. Take a video instead of pics. And there is alot alot alot of shiester & chislers in the snake world ive met alot, only met 1 nice and helpful person, but not everyone is out to steal from you. Im not a no it all, i just read the post and commented. If you want to attack me n ppl on here for asking to see pictures or asking about your animals past then dont talk about it. And i guess i wont be getting one off you oh well you can get lessers from more then just ralph.

It all boils down to that baby in the freezer (which is called a screwball right? or dad? but wont be varafied by a pic or vid just off ur here say. {in court ud b tossed out by now ;)} ). Oh and what about the mother of the baby pics of her? We know dad is a weird looking blondie looking pastel.

People just wanted some answers to ur statements and lack of pictures, not to be attacked by a paranoid drama troll.

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You do remember that Tom Baker didn't release pictures of his Special that made Crystals right away, right? Only a very few people were privy to that until he figured more out about them. What the OP is doing is protecting his project. He has reason to believe that it may be more than what we see now. And yes, he's excited about it and shared it.

Have we all just gotten so accustomed to being fed information on a platter that a little mystery in a project is now vilified?

If it was ME, I wouldn't be able to keep my mouth shut, because I'd be too darn excited to keep it to myself. But I can respect the OP wanting to protect his project "at this time".

And the OP came out the way he did in his responses, because the first few replies were pretty aggressive to begin with.

Im not gonna argue with a mod :) but i do remember that Tom didnt release pics for quite sometime and i understand soem of his OPness but then there is this. Im aware that in this "world" ppl are secretive about there projects and products every industry is. But its not about him thinking its more he claimed it was more, he made a special looking offspring that is in his freezer sadly, it has a name givin to it and he says its new, but not completely proven i understand, but you just can put a pic up i know i know OP of the project. Its just he showed a pic of its father that looks just like a normal blonde pastel n if it was bred to a normal it should make normals and him, it didnt it made something totally new looking in his words. But it passed sadly, now he has the only possible maker of this special animal so why with the cloak and dagger? it cant be duplicated, cant be claimed by others, there is only 1 and he has it. Id be supper excited to but id throw everything i had to prove my claims out when i 1st mention it so i didnt get scrutinized over details it would all be there for other to reveiw but if i didnt have everything i needed well is be a fly on the wall like i am now ;). Im not villifing him some are my 1st one wasnt no nice looking n sounding so i posted again. But when inccodent is over infomation only imformation can stop it.

Like i said i hope it proves out for you best of luck in doing it and hope oneday we can see pics of the mystery wild child in the ice box. But still dont attack everyone who askes about it. (hope i dont become a leper for this... peace and love snake lab & rabernet)

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Originally Posted by Akren_905

Im not gonna argue with a mod :) but i do remember that Tom didnt release pics for quite sometime and i understand soem of his OPness but then there is this. Im aware that in this "world" ppl are secretive about there projects and products every industry is. But its not about him thinking its more he claimed it was more, he made a special looking offspring that is in his freezer sadly, it has a name givin to it and he says its new, but not completely proven i understand, but you just can put a pic up i know i know OP of the project. Its just he showed a pic of its father that looks just like a normal blonde pastel n if it was bred to a normal it should make normals and him, it didnt it made something totally new looking in his words. But it passed sadly, now he has the only possible maker of this special animal so why with the cloak and dagger? it cant be duplicated, cant be claimed by others, there is only 1 and he has it. Id be supper excited to but id throw everything i had to prove my claims out when i 1st mention it so i didnt get scrutinized over details it would all be there for other to reveiw but if i didnt have everything i needed well is be a fly on the wall like i am now ;). Im not villifing him some are my 1st one wasnt no nice looking n sounding so i posted again. But when inccodent is over infomation only imformation can stop it.

Like i said i hope it proves out for you best of luck in doing it and hope oneday we can see pics of the mystery wild child in the ice box. But still dont attack everyone who askes about it. (hope i dont become a leper for this... peace and love snake lab & rabernet)

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Nothing wrong with healthy debate. :)

You shouldn't fear disagreeing with ANY staff member in a debate.

But to continue with the "what if's" of the screwball - what if, the mom contributed to the outcome of the baby? Remember he didn't want to share a picture of her either. So maybe it's possible that someone could have a female very similar to her in their collection that they hadn't planned to pair to a pastel - until they saw pictures of what Snake Lab produced?

I sort of like the intrigue, but that's just me. That's what keeps ball pythons so exciting for me - the new stuff and figuring new stuff out. And kudos to those who believed in their own dinker stuff enough to stay at it and bring us YB's, specters, specials, and who knows what else in the future? :D

Good Luck Snake Lab, hopefully you can reproduce the same baby next year and it wasn't a fluke.

People get into this hobby because of all the unexpected outcomes and be the first to create some crazy looking morph and give it a name.

Unfortunately, the big breeders may already have it and are keeping quite trying to reproduce in larger quantities before they release their findings to the industry.

My goal is to create a blue ball python so I can call it Blue Ball. :O
**Sorry had to bring some humor to the post**