Hybrids

Good post skip! It's a bit of a pet peeve of mine that certain species in particular have no interest paid to them as far as localities are concerned.

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

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:rofl::rofl:

That is awesome.

I like em and wanna breed em,

I'm trying for BloodBalls this year :).

Can you seriously cross a burmese with a ball? Ball with a corn? thats crazy had no idea you could do this.

Edit: Burmese x Ball = Burmball haha

I like hybrids. As long as people are responsible about breeding, keeping, and selling hybrids than I don't see a problem. Most people are not very responsible. I would like to have one but I would never breed hybrids.

Cheers.

I'm not disgusted by them, but I don't think they should be bred. Happening apon a wild hybrid is one thing, but I just don't see a reason to propagate them. Look at all the local varieties in color, pattern, size, and temperment you can find in some species. Then look at the varieties we've acheived through careful breeding. It's unfathomable. Do we really need to make the next step and create hybrids?

Also, even though morphs are "unnatural", at least we know exactly how to care for them and how they will behave. For example, a granite Burm and an albino will act similarly and have the same physical requirements, just as a pewter Ball and a spinner will act similarly and have the same physical requirements. But a hybrid? It's unpredictable. You can't go out some place and observe a wild Burmball to see how they behave and what they really need.

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Originally Posted by ekoplex

Can you seriously cross a burmese with a ball? Ball with a corn? thats crazy had no idea you could do this.

Edit: Burmese x Ball = Burmball haha

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Burmball.. yes

Ball x corn.. no, they are in completely different FAMILIES.

So far, pythons have surprised the herpetoculture community by having NUMEROUS hybridization successes among the family pythonidae, even crossing between different genii (plural of genus, if that wasn't clear).

The success rates on hybrid attempts between species that are genetically distant are very low.

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

I tired for gtp x carpet this year with no success. Will be trying again next year. To me the argument against hybrids has always been pretty weak.

"what if a bad person misrepresents them" ....your letting "bad people" ruin it? so your also against hets, subtle morphs, lucys, ect.?

also the "its not natural" argument.... either is 99% of the pet trade, are you kidding me?

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how do you breed the two together i want to try them this season

Skiploader, I think part of the solution to this lies in encouraging the reptile community to keep better lineage records. Central lineage databases like iHerp or the Corn Snake Registry need to be USED...by every breeder.

There's nothing wrong with designer snakes from mixed localities, but we should be able to find pure ones, and trace their bloodline back to the WC individuals they descended from.

I think someone should cross a corn snake with an anaconda.