Update on girl killed by python

Defense attorneys fired back that Hare and Darnell never had reason to worry about the pet python named Gypsy before.

“Over the time period, this snake was a part of Jaren hare's life and Jason Darnell's life. That this snake was around multiple children. That this snake was in fact no different than a family dog,” said J. Rhiannon Arnold.

Seriously? What planet is this lawyer from?!

A lawyer that knows nothing about snakes...

And I am so glad that snake recovered and lived :/

No license or restriction in the world will cure stupidity.

In my opinion they deserve being convicted. The crib was 15 ft away from the unsecured tank and the people admitted the snake had gotten out hours before it killed the 2 yr old.
AND.... the Grandma had told them countless times to get rid of the snake and even offered to buy it from them. But no.... they would rather neglect it and now look who is really suffering.

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Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents

I had been hoping they would get charged with it because there had been previous talk of child abuse and neglect anyway. I'd read reports where people suspected one of them may have accidentally killed the little girl and put the snake on her to make it appear that the snake had done it.

Wasn't there a report that said there were no bite marks found on the girl?
If the snake had done it, there would be a mark where it struck and bit. Plus a bit of blood.

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If I remember correctly.. It was found just laying on top of her. It was not wrapped around her. It was not trying to swallow any part of her. None if it makes any sense to me.

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I have yet to see a report or news story that stated that the girl had any bite marks or other signs that the animal actually was trying to constrict and eat her. I believe it is most likely that if the animal actually did kill her, it was seeking a source of heat, and its weight caused her asphyxiation. I think it is entirely possible the "family" could have killed her and blamed it on the snake, adding in the stab wound to make it more convincing to police. Regardless of how the girl died, they both deserve to rot in jail for child neglect resulting in death at the very least.

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Originally Posted by anatess

3 or 4 years or so ago (maybe even after this incident made headlines) Florida passed a law to require permits for Burmese Pythons (and other big snakes like anacondas, retics, etc.)
This year, they passed a law to completely ban them. You can't own nor sell one in the state of Florida anymore. Those who already own one are grandfathered in, but they can't breed them and you can't even give them away.


And yes, I don't trust Florida courts anymore - this is the state where Casey Anthony can get acquitted but it is against the law to put a pregnant pig in a pen.

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Actually the most recent Florida law for RoC's (now lumped into a list called conditional species) allows for "reptile dealers, researchers, and public exhibitors" to keep and breed these species, and sell them out of state or to individuals in the state who are permitted to keep them. It makes it illegal for them to be kept as pets by the general public, but it is not an outright ban.

The poor animal... If i was a snake, i know id be very hungry as well... I dont blame the animal for eating that innocent little girl.:( its a inctict. everyone gets hungry once in a while!:please::please:

[QUOTE=Hannah Shafiei;1600387]The poor animal..dont blame it for "apperently eating that child .:( . everyone gets hungry once in a while so the parents could have fed him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:please::please:

I hate stupid people. I just recently got my first couple snakes and everyone I know is like they will eat you!! And then go on to tell me horror stories they have heard about snakes. They funny part is all the stories have a dumba$$ snake owner lol. Stop blaming snakes for human stupidity.

I also read in one of the articles they had a red tail as well, and that friends had tried to take the snake off their hands multiple times but they would not give it up.

I see this seriously limiting our rights to our snakes. But when a dog kills a child they mark it as neglect towards the owners and nothing ever happens. I love dogs and I think it is completely about how they are raised, trained, and treated as with any animal. And so far nothing negative has happened to the herp world because of this case but I think it is going to happen sadly. I know Pits and Rots have a bad name because of cases like where the owner has mistreated the animal and there are limits on where you can live when you have a pit/rot but there has never been a law passed where you can not own one.

Let's just hope and pray this doesn't screw us over in the end :(

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Originally Posted by anatess

And yes, I don't trust Florida courts anymore - this is the state where Casey Anthony can get acquitted but it is against the law to put a pregnant pig in a pen.

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At least this trial has more evidence :rolleyes:

Seems like the over all population is getting stupider. And I have a Theory lol. The stupid are out breeding the smart people because smart people have jobs and ambitions. And also think things through properly lol.

Even if the defense attorney was a member of this site and professional breeder, he'd say the same thing. His job is defend those two morons to the best of his ability. This is really sad, and the parents should face the full repercussions of the law but at the end of the day, you guys who keep snakes in Florida are the ones that are going to suffer maybe not right away, but it will come.

That's how the world works, a small number of stupid people ruin anything good and wholesome for the majority of normal people. We have the same thing in S.A with gun ownership. You basically need to jump through three fuel soaked rings backwards with a burning cloth stuck in your pants before you get a licence and then you have to renew it every 5 years. This is all because idiots don't know how to control themselves.

If they really had no money to feed the snake, then firstly they shouldn't have bought it, and secondly the child should have been taken from them because as far as I'm concerned if you can't afford a dollars for a rabbit or guinea pig, how the hell are you feeding your child??

The problem with the world today is that everyone is so politically correct that no one calls a spade a spade anymore. There are some people with below average intelligence, and there are some people that are just not suitable to be part of civilized society. As horrible as that may sound it's just a fact.

These two nit wits need to spend as much time in jail as possible, and hopefully that will be some sort of deterrent to keep the rest of the morons like them out of the hobby...But as I said, it'll be you guys in Florida that never harmed anyone that'll carry the can for this one, because it's just much easier for people in power to punish the majority of easy to find honest people, than it is for them to go out and find the minority of sub standard people...

Sorry, Rant Closed!