Snake Vomit?

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,



We might be getting somewhere ( or not :cool: ) but can you take a temp reading on top of that packed down substrate inside the warm end hide?

Low temps would cause the snake to have problems digesting and that is a lot of substrate between the heater and the snake.

I know they can burrow down but packed down coco-fibre might be a little trickier.


dr del

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I'd need to borrow my brothers temp gun for surface temp in the hide. The probe isn't directly on the tank bottom I 'stacked' silicone there it sits about 1/2" above the glass and is about half an inch below the substrate surface. So my guess would be that the temp in the burrow is gonna be a pretty close but not exact. In the mean time I think I have a digital medical thermometer I can probe it just below the surface to get a better idea of the temp loss through the substrate. Shes currently in there right now though so I'll wait till later when she comes out to explore or switch hides. She does seem to prefer her cool hide directly after her feeding but I haven't kept track of time spent in each one when she switches. When she feeds again I will try to clock time spent in each hide and see if maybe shes spending too much time on the cooler side

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Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons

Snakes CANT digest fur period. But those pictures is not a bowel movement of just fur.

Flagyl is not a med that they build resistance to. Its a med used to kill internal parasites and helps snakes digest food better with the added bonus of better feeding response. Few dosings will help this snake over time.

Like i said get a better vet

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I found 2 other 'exotic' vets in my area but found no one who deals exclusively with reptiles. I called both of the others and explained whats going on and neither of them where of much help either, I was told to "soak her and monitor her weight". So I called back the vet she saw and we had a little conversation about Flagyl and what I witnessed last night. She agrees that this isn't normal and that since it's persisting she will give me a prescription for the Flagyl. I am unable to go back there until Monday as I will be out of state tomorrow and they are closed on Sunday.

So before I just go and get these meds or have her give my snake meds I would like to know your experiences with this particular drug so I know that she is getting it right. Like what dosage would you expect to be given to a 210g BP? How often is the medication given? How many doses are usually required? Are there possible generics I may be given instead? Is it possible to to give the medication through a regular feeding by putting it in a mouse? What is the least stressful way to give this stuff to her? Are there possible side effects or reactions I should be aware of? How much should this cost? Sorry about all these questions but I have no experience with this drug and I'm not even big on medicating myself unless I'm in a hospital.

I will skip her feeding this Sunday as to not cause a possible regurge when medication is given. I will be asking these questions to the vet too and discuss what I hope to learn from your experiences with her as well if I feel something isn't right. My search continues for a reptile specific vet that is close enough within reason. If anyone knows a trusted vet north of Atlanta GA (Cumming, Buford, Gainesville, Lawrenceville areas preferred) referrals are welcome. I am willing to travel to Atlanta if the vet is highly recommended.

Thanks again

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I found 2 other 'exotic' vets in my area but found no one who deals exclusively with reptiles. I called both of the others and explained whats going on and neither of them where of much help either, I was told to "soak her and monitor her weight". So I called back the vet she saw and we had a little conversation about Flagyl and what I witnessed last night. She agrees that this isn't normal and that since it's persisting she will give me a prescription for the Flagyl. I am unable to go back there until Monday as I will be out of state tomorrow and they are closed on Sunday.

So before I just go and get these meds or have her give my snake meds I would like to know your experiences with this particular drug so I know that she is getting it right. Like what dosage would you expect to be given to a 210g BP? How often is the medication given? How many doses are usually required? Are there possible generics I may be given instead? Is it possible to to give the medication through a regular feeding by putting it in a mouse? What is the least stressful way to give this stuff to her? Are there possible side effects or reactions I should be aware of? How much should this cost? Sorry about all these questions but I have no experience with this drug and I'm not even big on medicating myself unless I'm in a hospital.

I will skip her feeding this Sunday as to not cause a possible regurge when medication is given. I will be asking these questions to the vet too and discuss what I hope to learn from your experiences with her as well if I feel something isn't right. My search continues for a reptile specific vet that is close enough within reason. If anyone knows a trusted vet north of Atlanta GA (Cumming, Buford, Gainesville, Lawrenceville areas preferred) referrals are welcome. I am willing to travel to Atlanta if the vet is highly recommended.

Thanks again

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A good herp vet will answer ALL those questions for you while there. Ive used it many times when I worked fro BHB. When there the Flagyl was administered with each feeding for 3 feedings. Dosing it on the rodent enough to cover the rodents head and offer it. Of course if using frozen rodents. By doing just the head of the rodent, it gave the snake just enough to settle the digestion system down.

Other wise its given orally and dosages depend on the mixture the vet has on hand.

Thanks I guess some of those questions where vet specific. This vet seems to be better qualified than others I spoke with, shes just not as experienced with reptiles as a reptile specific vet would be. For now its all I got and I will go through with the Flagyl treatment so long as shes able to answer all my questions and nothing seems fishy. Otherwise I will have to find a reptile specific vet that hopefully wont empty my gas tank just getting there.