is this a normal?

wow but its deffinately not safe for little ones or ones that are already under weight

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Originally Posted by python_addict

wow but its deffinately not safe for little ones or ones that are already under weight

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As the OP stated, they were going to feed and get her back to weight before attempting to breed.

And there are dwarf ball females out there who barely every break 1200g as adult and still lay eggs. Size plays VERY little role in successful egg laying

lol sorry kinda meant that as a question i kinda hit the button without entering a question mark

She is a nice normal ball python from the looks of her. If you plan on breeding just make sure she is plump and fat so when she lays eggs in the future she wont lose to much weight. But she is still pretty none the less. Good luck with her!

also hope she eats like crazy for you so you wont have to wait that long to breed her ahah

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Originally Posted by Caleyandanthony

so your inbreeding snakes for what reason??

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That's not inbreeding, it's line breeding. And, as of now there have been no negative consequences with line breeding ball pythons. With exception of kinks and spinners, and that still hasn't proven to be bred genetically.

She looks like a very pretty normal. I think she'll make great mojo's. I would probably keep her on a small diet every 5 - 7 days. Don't try and push her to gain weight by feeding larger size rats. In my experience she'll gain better eating smaller portions.

Do you know how much she weighs now?

And don't forget to quarantine the male. :) I would not even have him in the same room for at least 60 days. I do think bigger girls will give you more eggs than smaller ones. If that is a factor. Sometimes it isn't, sometimes it is. :)

Good luck!

Line breeding IS inbreeding. Inbreeding is defined as the breeding of closely related individuals, so breeding son to mother is inbreeding. Breeding related individuals from a certain strain or line of animals is line breeding. So technically breeding son to mother is also line breeding, but usually line breeding means inbreeding through several generations to obtain a desired characteristic in your stock.

http://www.answers.com/topic/line-breeding
http://www.yourdictionary.com/line-breeding
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/inbreeding

Its pretty much all the same, but yes, breeding son to mother, sibling to sibling, daughter to father, etc is all considered inbreeding.

Thankfully within most reptile species, inbreeding does not carry a big risk of defects.

Your female is definitely pretty and will make nice mojaves. But as most have already said, she is quite skinny and will need to beef up a little. This could take several months depending on how well she eats. I would try to get a current weight on her and feed her small meals every 5 days. Either way you might end up needing to wait until next season anyway. I would advise just feeding her well until next season starts and just start then. There is no need to rush the female.

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Originally Posted by stratus_020202

That's not inbreeding, it's line breeding. And, as of now there have been no negative consequences with line breeding ball pythons. With exception of kinks and spinners, and that still hasn't proven to be bred genetically.

She looks like a very pretty normal. I think she'll make great mojo's. I would probably keep her on a small diet every 5 - 7 days. Don't try and push her to gain weight by feeding larger size rats. In my experience she'll gain better eating smaller portions.

Do you know how much she weighs now?

And don't forget to quarantine the male. :) I would not even have him in the same room for at least 60 days. I do think bigger girls will give you more eggs than smaller ones. If that is a factor. Sometimes it isn't, sometimes it is. :)

Good luck!

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thank you and yes i weighed her she weighs 998 and i fed her for the first time last night and she didnt even hesitate she snatched that rat up so fast it wasnt even funny well actually it was lol but i dont think the people i got her from fed her often cause she is deff skinny and the people i got her from didnt even know if she was a male or female and didnt know anything about snakes i asked to probe her and they were like um whats that

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Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny

Line breeding IS inbreeding. Inbreeding is defined as the breeding of closely related individuals, so breeding son to mother is inbreeding. Breeding related individuals from a certain strain or line of animals is line breeding. So technically breeding son to mother is also line breeding, but usually line breeding means inbreeding through several generations to obtain a desired characteristic in your stock. Its pretty much all the same, but yes, breeding son to mother, sibling to sibling, daughter to father, etc is all considered inbreeding.

Thankfully within most reptile species, inbreeding does not carry a big risk of defects.

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Well, that's a bunch of hookie. I always assumed it was different for reptiles, and was only considerred inbreeding with species in which it caused genetic defects. Darn. Shows how much I know about the subject. Lol.

In any case, it's safe for the snakes. Until proven otherwise I guess. :)

This is what I get for assuming.

Its still inbreeding, but inbreeding does not cause as many problems with reptiles. With humans, we have so many genetic problems as it is, that breeding two related individuals is bound to cause bad things to pop up. With reptiles, the genetics are not as complicated and there are not as many defects already present. You would have to breed several generations before you'd start seeing any problems. :D Of course, this is just from what I've read about the subject. I could be wrong. :D I fully intend on inbreeding my snakes, though I will only do so for one or two generations at the most.

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Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny

With humans, we have so many genetic problems as it is, that breeding two related individuals is bound to cause bad things to pop up.

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:hijackd::hijackd::hijackd:
Funny thing on that is WE cause almost all of our problems:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Dont get mad at me, I didnt make the chicken that is full grown in like 14 days!!:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Back on topic:
Line-Breeding, In-Breeding, Double-Up, and Triple-Up are all the same, you are trying to bring out the traits you want to be dominant in the offspring. (Yes I do know idiots that triple up and more than that on their bullies:rolleye2::rolleye2::rolleye2:)