Flatline?!?!

Think simpler.

To make a pastel super enchi spider clown, RD would have had to pair up two snakes that were both enchi and both a minimum of het clown, plus one of them with pastel and one with spider. This just doesn't fit the time frame. The odds of hitting a super enchi pastel spider clown with both parents only het clown are 1/64. Take out the spider and you have 1/32 odds. The only way to get the odds to a realistic level is to make one parent a visual enchi clown. Don't you think RD would have wanted to show off his enchi clown before he bred it and produced the next level?

Think simpler:

Enchi clown: male enchi het clown x clown or het clown

enchi pastel clown: male enchi het clown x pastel clown or pastel het clown

desert pastel clown: male desert clown or desert het clown x female pastel clown or pastel het clown.

All the above males are available or can be produced and up to breeding size in a year. The females have all been around long enough to be breedable. They also have somewhat realistic odds, especially if you use a visual clown. RD would have good reason to keep the ingredients a secret.

You just dont get a super codom, recessive(basically another super), plus two other dom/codom genes into a snake without seeing the steps leading up to it.

Unless of course RD kept a male enchi clown a secret while he raised up a female enchi het clown to breeding size.

Maybe it's a Super Banana Bird Eater:O

So nerd posted a video with the Asystole. Any final word on the Flatline?

His banana bird eater looks very similar to an orange dream. Orange dream x spider would give the color then just add a nice reduced pattern clown. It may or may not even have spider, maybe the new gene does something similar with the color with clown as the od does with the spider gene since clown usually makes things a bit brighter. Maybe it has some yellow belly in there too. The orange dreams seem to come out with a nice banded pattern maybe that cleaned up the clown pattern to like spider or enchi can. I have a ch boy that looks very similar to an od so I plan on testing my theory lol.

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Originally Posted by TheReptileEnthusiast

Then you must not have looked at the desert clown pics. It is the same dorsal pattern as the flatline. The head pattern of the flatline is the same speckled pattern that pastel clowns have. Pastel desert clown is my guess, but I can see the argument for enchi as well. I don't see any calico or champagne in there.

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couldn't have worded this more perfectly myself.
Lots of morphs could yellow it up, and I dont see any champ or calico in the flatline AT ALL. The champagne has a crazy pattern and often the line isn't filled in such as in the example that was posted. The dark line on the flatline lookS EXACTLY like a darker version of that desert clown, same pattern.

I'm guessing its a desert clown something something....

I'm thinking it's a super orange dream spider something, but that's just a guess. We probably won't know for years.:rolleyes:

I think it is just a Bumble Bee Clown. Here is another one that was produced.

http://www.precisionreptiles.com/for...own_group2.jpg[/QUOTE]

This is not my snake but looks pretty much like the flatline.

looks like bumblee clown, the difference was the color, I think it luck of pastel, or i think its a ....super enchi bumble bee clown.... just a wild guess
let me justify:
color : superenchi and pastel
body and head pattern: clown and spider
:bow::bow::bow:

Fire pastel super enchi clown. Thats my guess.

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Originally Posted by JoeEllisReptiles

I think it is just a Bumble Bee Clown. Here is another one that was produced.

http://www.precisionreptiles.com/for...own_group2.jpg

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This is not my snake but looks pretty much like the flatline.[/QUOTE]

Wow that is SWEET