1st breeding attempt

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Originally Posted by Steveoo

now iv already read a lot and done my research my questions aren't because i don't know what "some" people say i want to know what ppl on here think, iv already had young ball pythons that wouldn't eat and iv had mites and iv seen ri and this isn't my 1st year owning a ball python. im sorry you think im not supposed to be breeding or owning these snakes but i do know more than your make me out to be, so though i asked a question don't treat me like i don't know anything. no afence but everyone will always have more to learn and even the big breeds learn new things all the time. im on this forum for knowledge not because i don't know enough to have a "pet" snake. so though there was a question you should jump to conclusions to how much someone might know

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You act like you are being attacked us (not my intention anyway). We are only making some points based on info provided in this thread. People here are very helpful/knowledgeable and we only know what you tell us about yourself.

BTW...having mites and RI's isn't a good thing. These things can happen to anyone (thank god they have never found there way into my collection)...Proper knowledge and QT may have prevented this though? Just saying.

Best of luck in your future breedings.

i haven't had ri, but iv seen it, a larger breeder i know has had it, a long with mites, even with good QT. it doesn't always mean you wont get it. im just trying to say that though you all have good points i wasn't asking for people to yell at me for a question. i understand the reasoning and when i can i do qt but its not always a possibility for me because of locations, and just because you qt it docent mean that the animal you bring in isn't going bring something into your collection ether theres always a risk when keeping a # of animals in close surroundings. and i just don't want people treating me or anyone else like they don't know anything just because they ask something

What I personally saw from the info provided and I wasnt trying to attack you either. But based on what I read you have 22 balls and you planned on lending your male to a friend while breeding him to your female. People on here asked you why you were going to be breeding your male to 2 different females without any qt procedures. You asked what things are you trying to prevent by keeping them separate for 90 days. I'm sorry of people misgrasped the concept but what that said to me was you didn't know of things like IBD and antibiotic resistant RIs. So people told you about them. You had also said that IBD was only passed by mites and you spray p.a.m and you wash your hands in-between so why should you qt. IMHO all anyone on here was trying to do was reeducate what misinformed views you had on certain things. That's not attacking it's helping a new breeder that's may not have the knowledge. I speak generally here but I don't think anyone was just assuming for no reason. You gave us the premise for thinking you didn't know about these things, from what you were saying. You asked for help so you got it. I think what we all were getting at is if you are serious about breeding and you want to do it the right way this is a practice you need to start now. You're right everyone will always have more to learn, but getting the practices down is first thing first. I said before just because you dont doesn't mean nothing will happen. And just because you do doesn't mean nothing will happen. But that one time you don't and something does you could loose them all. I feel like I have the responsibility to my animals and my buyers of the offspring to make the time and make the space to do it.
Best of luck.

This may well make me sound like the arse in this thread, but may I ask how you managed to find yourself with over 20 (mostly young) ball pythons and not know about basic quarantine procedures and why it's so important to follow through with qt?

its not that i didn't know, i asked later what types of thing because i knew of a few but i don't know everything and wanted to see what else is out there, and so far no one had said anything new.

If you know the reasons behind quarantine, I don't understand why you haven't been quarantining your animals. Lack of a qt room is no excuse if you've already committed yourself to caring for 20+ animals. You're putting every one of them at risk (as well as your friend's collection upon their snake's return) by not quarantining.