I have a black pastel - do I also want a cinny?

Hmmm not sure what the previous post had to do with the current debate, but alright. Congrats. :)

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Originally Posted by bkelley02

Stupid question, but I really don't know the answer. Would a Black Pastel x Het Red Axanthic still make a Gargoyle or is it only the Cinny x Het Red that does that?

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Actually they are called Onyx or Black Onyx It was first produced by Heather Wong of Heather's Herps.

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"Would you call this ugly????"

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I would have to say yes.
A mentioned, I just plum don't like the cinny gene.
No offense to what is clearly a fan favorite.
I have pewters and sterlings (and various crosses) of both cinnies and black pastels in my collection, and the is the closest a cinny comes to being in my collection.

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

I agree he is a great guy. :D :gj:



But you seem to have got a little confused somewhere down the line - black pastel is a morph in it's own right nothing to do with the morph we call pastels. :cool:

Some people still call cinnys cinammon pastels as well - the naming of ball python morphs is a perfect example of how to confuse the bejeebus out of everyone. :rolleyes:

So;

super pastel x cinny = pastels and pewters

black pastel x super pastel = pastels and black pewters

black pastel x cinny = normals, black pastels, cinnys and 8balls

And if one of the above 8ball supers was bred to a normal it would produce half the clutch as black pastels and the other half as cinnys.


dr del

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Thanks for the correction and the names need a little revision lol in the BP market...

Also Tim gets thumbs up from me...