Fauna BOI Thread Regarding Chuck Kimmel Auction and Wise Reptiles

I have nothing nice to say in regards to the Wise's and what they have done so I will say nothing at all. But I will say that my heart and prayers really go out to Maggie and her family. It is very heart breaking to see all this has happened to them. Again, I am sad to see all this has happened to her and her family and they will be in my family's prayers...

Agreed Jeff,

Having to fight to recieve something your community rallied together to give you, when you should be grieving and moving forward... is just heartbreaking. :(

Bruce

Being a basically heartless bastard, I don't have that problem.

This though, is one of those things that gets my anger smoldering. It's when I think and plot and manipulate evil doers, when I get this ire that isn't hot, it's not raging or wanting to suddenly and randomly strike out, it's a cold methodical path to not only demoralization but a bit of fear too.

There's a bit of a story I'd like to tell the wises about what it's like to be hunted. To never knowing if the person you're talking to is going to turn you in to the authorities or maybe just give you a good ol fashion ass whuppin, or just shun you and send you on your way. I'd like to tell them how, years from now people will see there children and ask them what it was like growing up with parents that stole from widows and infants. I could go on, but I haven't given it time to bake in the coals yet.

wises, if you see this, you should be afraid. Not of me, but of what I'm going to say, maybe here, maybe on fauna, maybe other places as well. Words can do far more and much longer lasting damage that mental midgets like you can even begin to comprehend. I honestly think you are not smart enough to know how stupid you are. You'll learn though, be taught more like, but the lesson won't be forgotten, not with as many teachers as you have lined up to drive it home. Hell, I'm not necessary at all, I just don't like you. And you hurt someone I care about. That was a mistake. Especially since I'm not the only one who feels that way about Chuck's family.

Here's the only bit of niceness you'll be getting from me. Do what you have to to pay this, but do it and do it now. The sooner you get her what was given to her, the sooner you can slink back to your trough and hide in the sty. Don't bother making excuses, NO ONE wants to hear them. Just pay up.

sheesh

Wow.. I have this very odd respect for Wilomn. The things he says makes some peope mad but they usually just make me smile. I think becase I know all to well..

As for the idiots that did this... A past room mate stole money from me once to make a car payment. Denied it but I had proof. When I threw the two of them out I was later told by my BF that daggers came out of my eyes and flames from my ears.. lol! Nothing to laugh about but these people have no idea what someone could do to them if they really wanted to. The anger inspired by lying, cheating, stealing, and directly hurting people you care about, is a million times worse than if you were to get mad and go rob a store or commit some other petty crime. People dont forget when its been done to people they care about. Its what keeps the twisted thoughts of normally sane people from ever dying out.

Well reading about this here and on the BOI....(and I am sure it was posted in many other places) karma is already on them. They will never be able to sell within the reptile community again. I highly doubt they would be able to even think about selling at a show. They might be able to sell to a kid here and there....but not anything that will sustain them. This is just one aspect....there is also the legalities of it as well and I am sure as I type the authorities are and have been notified. Afterall you have her admission right online...(hopefully all involed copied and pasted that paticular post to their hard drive). We also have to remember that they are admittedly drug users (at least he is, I find it hard to believe you are married to one and not using yourself). That alone is a personal hell of another kind. She also admitted to this on the thread as well. Hence I hope ppl involved are calling CPS so that the children are taken out of a drug situation. And though some don't believe in this...someday they will have to answer to a higher power. So with all this...I believe the karma ball has already started to roll and will only get much much worse.

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Originally Posted by BPelizabeth

Well reading about this here and on the BOI....(and I am sure it was posted in many other places) karma is already on them. They will never be able to sell within the reptile community again. I highly doubt they would be able to even think about selling at a show. They might be able to sell to a kid here and there....but not anything that will sustain them. This is just one aspect....there is also the legalities of it as well and I am sure as I type the authorities are and have been notified. Afterall you have her admission right online...(hopefully all involed copied and pasted that paticular post to their hard drive). We also have to remember that they are admittedly drug users (at least he is, I find it hard to believe you are married to one and not using yourself). That alone is a personal hell of another kind. She also admitted to this on the thread as well. Hence I hope ppl involved are calling CPS so that the children are taken out of a drug situation. And though some don't believe in this...someday they will have to answer to a higher power. So with all this...I believe the karma ball has already started to roll and will only get much much worse.

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I agree, not only will they be practically unable to sell animals, but also to purchase animals from reputable people who have read the thread knowing where some of that money could have come from.

No matter what they do, their names will never ever be clear again. ;)

I sincerely hope your wish is granted, Wes. That world over there isn't the same without you.

I've said what's on my mind over there so I won't rehash here, but these guys deserve every bit of the crap sandwich they're about to be forced to take a big bite of.

Thanks BP.net for letting this thread stand, and I hope it will be moved to the business inquiry section where anyone looking for info on these people might see it and be warned. I came here this morning specifically searching for this thread, and it took me a while to find it in this section.

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Originally Posted by BAMReptiles

fauna seems to be a breeding ground for activity like that. just one reason id never sell on there, too many scammers and all around riff raff

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lol, they come because it's the ONLY place online where they get called out. It's try to defend, or let it stand. I couldn't survive without the BOI, man--I would never feel safe buying online without it. I've also made quite a few sales there, I consider it the second most frequented classifieds venue in the online reptile community--and definitely the safest, because if there's a scammer posting stuff, they get caught and posted in the BOI almost immediately. Kingsnake doesn't even PERMIT negative comments--that's the biggest online classifieds, but definitely the least secure.

There may be some nasty personalities over there, I'll grant you that--but who cares about personality in this type of situation? I'd rather sell my snake to an honest guy with a nasty personality than a nice guy who will try to bilk me out of money.

I come to BP.net for great conversations and decent people. But I go to Fauna if I want to hear the dirt or the praise on someone I'm considering buying from, or selling to.

I'm saddened to hear that someone took advantage of Chuck's passing in such a terrible way.

Yeah, I decided to ignore the ignorance of that person's comment yesterday. Considering many use both forums posting here.

Thanks Robin for the support you have shown on Fauna and here. Wes, my friend, I would love to see them turned inside out, begging for mercy, like only you can do.