next step up from bp?

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Originally Posted by Inugohan

I'm surprised no one has said Hogg Island boa. They are great next step. I of course went straight for a burm, but it's ultimately what you like best. I recommend a hogg though. Carpets are great too, bloods can be tricky but awesome. Have fun with what ever you choose! ~Caylan.S.~

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Agree! There are many dwarf locality boas out there that only get around 5/6 feet. Go to vin russo's page to see details on size for many of these species.

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Originally Posted by 2kdime

Depends, what kind of animal are you looking for?

Active snake? Lazy?

Big snake? Small snake?

Arboreal? Terrestrial?

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Good point. Borneos are amazing but they do get big. Big as in heavy. They may not be as long as a boa but they get very thick and are prone to being overweight if not fed properly. Any snake can be nippy. Just do alot of research, ask alot of questions, and handle your new snake regularly so it doesnt become hard to handle as an adult.

Really the decision is up to you in the end. Maybe you can tell us what you really want and we can tell about the differences between them?

thank you guys. a bunch of people and some web site spooked me away from the borneo so i ended up with a 4.5 foot female hypo columbian red tail. orangish tan with rust and gray saddles and pinkish sides. VERY mellow. $230... may have paid a bit much but it was what i wanted.

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Originally Posted by chasingtime

yeah but just the next size up from a ball. columbians too big...

what about the male argentine? my local herp guys said around 6'. is that true?

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You could get a male Columbian BCI. They stay fairly small. Probably around 5 or 6 feet, and much less girth than females. All of my Columbians are very docile. There are also dwarf boas that max out at around five feet. Check out http://www.cuttingedgeherp.com/ and http://www.riobravoreptiles.com/ for some info.

Edit - I guess I should have read the entire post before posting. Grats on your new addition.

was about to say Boa Constrictor but the OP beat me to it ;)

double post.

Congrats on your new addition. I'm waiting on the weather for my new Caulker Cay to be shipped from Vin Russo, and I got a Costa Rican BCI that should be arriving at the same time... :please: warm weather, warm weather...

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Originally Posted by chasingtime

i thought one of the points of this site was to help each other with legitimate questions. im asking for advice and would really appreciate and respect input from you guys...

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deadlegs, you dinged my reputation by saying i mentioned my desire for respect and yet i continue to show disrespect. i didnt suggest a desire for respect. i said "i would really appreciate and respect advice and input from you guys."

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Originally Posted by chasingtime

getting mixed signals from local herp guys. are borneos good pets?

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No no no trust me on this one you want a carpet. They are amazing animals.