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  • 01-10-2010, 07:42 AM
    Lolo76
    Re: What is he... Cinny or B.P.?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post
    Amen.

    I'm calling it a Lolo Pastel.

    Hahaha... I like that! :8:
  • 01-10-2010, 01:02 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: What is he... Cinny or B.P.?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post
    I think you start a poll and see how many people, despite the fact that you know the lineage and produced it, think it's a cinnamon. ;)

    No doubt which is why I posted her ;), she was sired by this Black Pastel Male (Gulf Coast Reptiles Line) seen here with one of her sibling.

    Out of 4 Black Pastels produced in that clutch she is the only one looking like a cinny ;)

    http://stewartreptiles.com/wordpress...ckpastel06.jpg
  • 01-10-2010, 09:23 PM
    Mike Schultz
    Re: What is he... Cinny or B.P.?
    Looks like a black pastel to me. Btw Skiploder "Ian G. Line" means it came from one of our original breeders here at Outback Reptiles.
  • 01-10-2010, 10:22 PM
    Skiploder
    Re: What is he... Cinny or B.P.?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike@OutbackReptiles View Post
    Looks like a black pastel to me. Btw Skiploder "Ian G. Line" means it came from one of our original breeders here at Outback Reptiles.

    I thought it meant it was bred by Kenny G's brother........
  • 01-11-2010, 03:17 AM
    Lolo76
    Re: What is he... Cinny or B.P.?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    No doubt which is why I posted her ;), she was sired by this Black Pastel Male (Gulf Coast Reptiles Line) seen here with one of her sibling.

    Out of 4 Black Pastels produced in that clutch she is the only one looking like a cinny ;)

    That's really interesting - and all the snakes are beautiful! :) So, I guess cinnamon vs black pastel is similar to lesser vs butter, where it's often hard to tell the difference? I've seen lessers that looked like butters, and vice-versa... so confusing, LOL.
  • 01-11-2010, 04:55 AM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Re: What is he... Cinny or B.P.?
    Am I the only person who can see a very obvious difference in the shape, markings and color of the head with cinnamons? That snake is not a cinnamon. Also super cinnamons are not the same color as super black pastels. Super black pastels should be fairly solid black. Super cinnamons have a different colored sheen to them. They are more of a burgandy hematite color. The belly is different as well. Ive seen black pastels that look like a normal but i know a cinnamon a mile away. Its probably my all time favorite morph.
  • 02-01-2010, 11:59 PM
    The Rev
    Re: What is he... Cinny or B.P.?
    Cinnamon..... definatly, the heads flushed out, were as a black pastel has a dark head and a bizarre pattern.
  • 02-04-2010, 03:43 AM
    ClemonsKimberly
    Re: What is he... Cinny or B.P.?
    I am really new to the morph thing so I looked up pics of both because I wanted to see if I could tell the difference. Is it possible that he had one of each for parents? I dont wanna sound stupid, and I probably do, But he looks a lot like a little of both. IDK...he also looks like the sable that was crossed with a cinnamon on one page...I wonder if some people just post those oics and tell what they were bred from to make me ask a lot of questions! LOL - Really I amtoo new to judge, but I gave it a hell of a shot!
  • 02-04-2010, 04:48 AM
    Lolo76
    Re: What is he... Cinny or B.P.?
    Hey, I'm new to this stuff too - so you know about as much as I do! :oops: Looks like Cinnamon is winning the poll by quite a bit, which is pretty interesting... he is definitely a black pastel according to his genetics, but I agree he's in disguise as a cinny. I look forward to breeding this beautiful boy, no matter what morph he is. Now if only he'd show some interest in the ladies. :cool:
  • 02-04-2010, 04:50 AM
    Lolo76
    Re: What is he... Cinny or B.P.?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by West Coast Jungle View Post
    I'm leaning black but just not a great example of one.

    Btw, were you saying that Dave isn't a pretty black pastel? :( I've been doing some research, and it seems the Ian G line (what Dave is) just has a more blushed-out look... I personally prefer his appearance, since it's like having two morphs in one!
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