Hets w/visual traits/ Breeders opinions

I have a "normal" female that is much brighter than other norms, almost like the post above. Still not well versed in color morphs. Is there a name that separated them from other norms?

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Originally Posted by AHOOD

I have a "normal" female that is much brighter than other norms, almost like the post above. Still not well versed in color morphs. Is there a name that separated them from other norms?

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No. What we are talking about here is the possibility of certain hets to carry visual traits, Some hets seem to always have the same traits, making it easier to tell what you have. This is something breeders who work with that certain het can notice but the general population cant.

read the entire thread and you will see. We also wonder if this is anything a trained eye can see as being an actual visual trait happening in every single representation of that particular morph.

Interesting stuff. Its all opinions here. No one can tell you your snake is an actual het or not. Unless maybe the breeder of that snake were asked. There is also no name for unusual normals or possible hets other than dinkers or possibly harliquins if the pattern is right.

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Originally Posted by Mike@OutbackReptiles

I've noticed het clowns tend to make morphs and normals look "better." When we have for example pastels p.h. clown the brighter, nicer looking pastels prove out a lot more often than "normal" pastels.

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Interesting. I definitely noticed that, but figured I was over-thinking it. lol

This is a very interesting thread. I have mentioned this to a few friends of mine and they are always so quick to say " one can not tell a het from a normal". But I have noticed my hets do look different from my normals. Pretty much everything mentioned here I have noticed on my hets and yes when I got home last night I double checked. It will be very interesting to check this theory out at the next expo I attend.

I noticed that the 100% het lav male and my PH lav male have the same gold coloring and white outlines for the alien heads. The female, who I havent paid off yet but have seen pictures, also has the same thing. Oddly enough, all 3 of them have an "8" in their pattern. Not calling that a marker, but it IS odd.

Poss Het Lav
http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs113...._5872423_n.jpg

100% Het Lav Female
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._6902325_n.jpg

100% Het Lav Male, dark photo
http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs169...._2392794_n.jpg

can someone go into a little more detail about the clown markers. I have 3 poss het clown females and would like to check this out. so if someone could post a pictures that would be great. also what do you mean by spaced far apart..that the scales in general are spaced far apart or that each large scale is far apart from the next one?

My het clowns not only have the large scales on the spine but a kind of 'sheen' on the head. Almost like oil on water. Anyone else noticed this?

I agree that many hets seem to look different but many others don't. Maybe it has something to do with the normals used in prior breedings? I used to keep unusual normals just because, maybe I would produce something neat, etc. I would assume others have done the same. If these normals were used to produce hets maybe that would explain future "markers"??

In 2008 I produced four clutches from lav albino x het. All the hets in these clutches were very nice and bright gold color. I then had two cluches from het lav x normal still incubating and figured I would be able to just pick out the nice gold ones. All the babies from both clutches looked totally normal??

Here is a similar thread regarding Het. Axanthic markers. http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=103673

This subject is very interesting. We should compile a photo gallery of 100% hets of various morphs and see if there are as many consistencies as there seems to be.

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Originally Posted by jsmorphs2

This subject is very interesting. We should compile a photo gallery of 100% hets of various morphs and see if there are as many consistencies as there seems to be.

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I agree with this. it would have to be broken up among lines. like a specific thread for each line of ghost or axanthic. It would be a good way to disprove/prove a lot of these marker theories.