Rescued BP - is it Pastel?

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Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion

I have to say, I side with the person who says it may be a scrape from escaping his enclosure--a loosely latched screen top, for example.

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If you take a screen top and press it down on your hand and pull your hand out from under it. It will not damage your hand.

What would likely happen is that the ball would lift up the cover and force it's head out. If it got stuck it would pull its self back into the tank, perhaps getting it's neck pinned and stuck from the pressure of the clips, but the cover would not gouge through several layers of the derma. There are several layers that need to be damaged for the scar to appear white instead of black.

Rick

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Originally Posted by SiscoReptiles

If you take a screen top and press it down on your hand and pull your hand out from under it. It will not damage your hand.

What would likely happen is that the ball would lift up the cover and force it's head out. If it got stuck it would pull its self back into the tank, perhaps getting it's neck pinned and stuck from the pressure of the clips, but the cover would not gouge through several layers of the derma. There are several layers that need to be damaged for the scar to appear white instead of black.

Rick

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Not going to debate how THAT snake received its scars, but I have a couple animals housed in 40 quart tubs with lids that have a lip that hangs down from the lid - and the snakes squeeze between that lip and the locking lid indention. They have rubbed the color off the scales in what I call "tub rub". Not all snakes housed in this particular tub do this, but two have done it.

So - it is possible to happen from rubbing in the enclosure. I know for a fact that neither of them were burned or injured by prey - I've raised both from babies and watched them actually try to squeeze between this gap and seen that lip running down their neck while they were doing so.

:soapbx:This guy rescued a couple balls and came here for some additional input even though he seems to know enough to get by.. And here you people are arguing about how and why the snake got scraped along its back??

Does it really matter? That already healed up injury has absolutely nothing to do with the rescue and care of this snake.

He never even asked for any advice other than is it a pastel. Quit being so critical. Its alive. Thats all that matters.

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That snake is light in color unnaturally. Feed him a nice small rat once a week for a few months and he will get his proper coloration back. The reason he is that color is a lack of nutritional supply, dehydration, and improper temperatures.

People need to stop this whole 'scarring' dispute. I hardly even felt like reading over it, it looked too immature. This snake was a rescue, so I was not surprised to see this animal in such a state. This man is on this site asking for our help, all we can do is correct his mistakes and make sure that the animal is healthy from now on.
Also, I see burns on backs all the time from wrapping lighting fixtures and heat rocks.

It looked like it was healed so I wasn't concerned with it at all. I'm far more concerned about the nutrition that this snake is getting/had received.

Unfortunately, unnecessary debating comes with being part of a forum with people all over the world, a broad and immense pool of knowledge.

I've had my share of debating. And unfortunately, that's one of the reasons I left the "herp world."

Now that I'm back into herping, and back in the forums I only wish that the other rookies aren't discouraged from enjoying the hobby of keeping reptiles.

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Originally Posted by revxus

Unfortunately, unnecessary debating comes with being part of a forum with people all over the world, a broad and immense pool of knowledge.

I've had my share of debating. And unfortunately, that's one of the reasons I left the "herp world."

Now that I'm back into herping, and back in the forums I only wish that the other rookies aren't discouraged from enjoying the hobby of keeping reptiles.

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No one should be discouraged. If anything (and if it were me stuck in a heated debate as a rookie) those people would benefit from just reading the husbandry forums so they know exactly how to care for these guys and then just ignore everyone else.

Im sort of a rookie myself. Had many different types of snakes & herps in general many years ago but had an accident and had to get out of it for a long time. Im back & im re learning everything because it changes all the time. What was right back then is no longer right in many eyes.

No reason to be discouraged. In my eyes you're an awesome person for rescuing these guys & doing all you can for them. You have the right idea on how to deal with the forums & the people on them, and you look to be taking great care of these BPs you took in. I looked at the pics in your other post of the first one too.

Keep finding them! They need more people like you around to save them :D

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Originally Posted by blackcrystal22

That snake is light in color unnaturally. Feed him a nice small rat once a week for a few months and he will get his proper coloration back. The reason he is that color is a lack of nutritional supply, dehydration, and improper temperatures.

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This is very interesting, I did not know that this was caused by improper care and neglect. I thought this only applied to other high-maintenance reptiles like iguanas and bearded dragons.

You learn something every day! :)

I was not arguing, just discussing. Isn't this a discussion forum? I never acted immature and if you read back through my posts I was always polite and respectful of other peoples opinions even if I did not agree with them.

I will not reply further.

Rick

I have a VERY light normal BP. The colors and the blushing look similar. If it weren't for that scar I would say they were the same snake.

My pont being is I am no expert but I don't believe the light color is from malnutrition. My light girl is my best eater and fastest grower. I could be wrong I'm no expert.

Mike

looks alot like a granite or possibly has some xanthic genetics