News: 2 die in rock python attack

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Originally Posted by mrkrec

I have done the research. And that link from above, the same one posted earlier, is from the 8th. And it's the only one that talks about a murder investigation. No other major news outlet has mentioned it....

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exactly. because murders happen every day. a 100 pound snake killing two boys does not. a snake story spreads like wildfire and boosts ratings. a double homicide (not to sound insensitive), happens much more frequently and does not. the news channels want the story that sells.

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Originally Posted by Neal

Not to be rude here, but if you're going to go against the grain here you might want to do some research so you have ground to stand on instead of the guy below you making you seem like somebody who needs to re-attend middle school.

Like he said asphyxiation can be caused by numerous things, it doesn't automatically mean snake. Please don't try to be more "media" and do your research next time.

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I hope I'm wrong, and the snake was innocent, but right now it looks like it was a freak occurrence and an irresponsible snake owner.

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Originally Posted by TheSnakeGeek

exactly. because murders happen every day. a 100 pound snake killing two boys does not. a snake story spreads like wildfire and boosts ratings. a double homicide (not to sound insensitive), happens much more frequently and does not. the news channels want the story that sells.

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So you're saying it was in fact a double homocide commited by someone in the house, not the snake, but the media doesn't care cause the snake story is better for ratings?

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Originally Posted by mrkrec

So you're saying it was in fact a double homocide commited by someone in the house, not the snake, but the media doesn't care cause the snake story is better for ratings?

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i'm not saying that's what it IS for sure. apparently the guy hasnt been charged with it. all i'm saying is "snake kills two boys" will get every news station and their mother reporting it. "double homicide being investigated," not so much.

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Originally Posted by TheSnakeGeek

i'm not saying that's what it IS for sure. apparently the guy hasnt been charged with it. all i'm saying is "snake kills two boys" will get every news station and their mother reporting it. "double homicide being investigated," not so much.

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Sure, that's possible. The media loves to have a villain, and snakes are perfect for that, in the view of the public.

I just did another quick search, and on the 7th, the reports were that they were still investigating what happened, and haven't gotten the full report back yet.

My issue was with the link posted above, that isn't current, as of today , the 15th. No need to post links from a week ago , IMO.

I'm a big snake owner and breeder, I own several large constrictors the largest being 18ft and approx 140lbs as pointed out there are many holes in the story...

Cause of death listed as asphyxiation- which a constrictor snake would not cause in a child of that size...
No known bite marks (rumors, but none are actually confirmed).
The odds of a highly terrestrial and moderately heavily built snake going up a sheet metal style vent system.... Highly unlikely.
The snake crashing through the ceiling, and after all that, seeking out/attacking anything...
The snake according to records was fed 2 decent meals 4 days before the incident... going after 2 huge prey items? Doubt it..

Now- what people need to realize- the snake was found in the room with dead boys = instant story, ratings, hits etc. If the snake comes out the bad guy = news keeps reporting instantly/quickly because lets face it, big snake killing 2 children sells very well, you better believe if evidence would have come back against the snake it would be all over, we only had a very brief media storm over the first facts... nothing else.

Now, it would be extremely easy for a coroner to determine the snake was cause of death, massive bite marks, bruising, etc etc. It would be very obvious, they would have no problem releasing this information readily because no foul play is involved here...

If the snake was innocent (as all signs do point), they wouldn't release any info, because it's a criminal investigation at this point, they don't feel like they can accurately blame the animal for the crime, and can't release that. Lets say it comes back as double homicide, CO2 etc... That won't make TV.. You think the news wants to get on prime time and say "It turns out the snake was innocent, CO2 or the owner killed the boys". The media would look stupid, they wouldn't have their evil snake to paint a picture of, and the story wouldn't be nearly as enthralling for viewers to talk about..

It would take a complete fool to look at this case and think the snake caused the death of these 2 kids based on the information currently provided. That is just fact.

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Originally Posted by Dehlol

I'm a big snake owner and breeder, I own several large constrictors the largest being 18ft and approx 140lbs as pointed out there are many holes in the story...

Cause of death listed as asphyxiation- which a constrictor snake would not cause in a child of that size...
No known bite marks (rumors, but none are actually confirmed).
The odds of a highly terrestrial and moderately heavily built snake going up a sheet metal style vent system.... Highly unlikely.
The snake crashing through the ceiling, and after all that, seeking out/attacking anything...
The snake according to records was fed 2 decent meals 4 days before the incident... going after 2 huge prey items? Doubt it..

Now- what people need to realize- the snake was found in the room with dead boys = instant story, ratings, hits etc. If the snake comes out the bad guy = news keeps reporting instantly/quickly because lets face it, big snake killing 2 children sells very well, you better believe if evidence would have come back against the snake it would be all over, we only had a very brief media storm over the first facts... nothing else.

Now, it would be extremely easy for a coroner to determine the snake was cause of death, massive bite marks, bruising, etc etc. It would be very obvious, they would have no problem releasing this information readily because no foul play is involved here...

If the snake was innocent (as all signs do point), they wouldn't release any info, because it's a criminal investigation at this point, they don't feel like they can accurately blame the animal for the crime, and can't release that. Lets say it comes back as double homicide, CO2 etc... That won't make TV.. You think the news wants to get on prime time and say "It turns out the snake was innocent, CO2 or the owner killed the boys". The media would look stupid, they wouldn't have their evil snake to paint a picture of, and the story wouldn't be nearly as enthralling for viewers to talk about..

It would take a complete fool to look at this case and think the snake caused the death of these 2 kids based on the information currently provided. That is just fact.

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amen

Article from 2 days ago..

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-br...s-escaped.html

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Originally Posted by mrkrec

Article from 2 days ago..

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-br...s-escaped.html

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Human error at the start of the article, then it phases into "I've kept other snakes in there just fine, this one though was a 'vicious' demon that somehow figured out exactly what it needed to do to escape and did it."

While I believe that some snakes are genuine escape artists, he'd this snake for 13 years, and should have known its habits by now. If it liked to try to find a way out, leaving a fan vent open is not the way to prevent such an escape.

Just sad because this should have been entirely preventable. The way he makes it sound, that fan hasn't been in its proper place for a long time now, since he "can't remember" when it came out. He should be charged with neglect and reckless endangerment, if nothing else. Can't claim to charge him for anything more than that, but if more evidence comes forward that makes this situation worse, they'll have something to build on.

I like how they're jumping to conclusions while there is "still an on going criminal investigation". Obviously that means the snake didn't do it, or they'd have closed it after they euthanized the snake.

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