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  • 08-14-2013, 11:53 AM
    sorraia
    I tried searching for additional articles about a murder investigation (or anything besides "snake strangled two boys"), but couldn't find anything.
  • 08-15-2013, 05:45 AM
    treeboa
    I think the fact that they are taking their time proves they are looking at it as a murder. If they had real evidence against the snake, it would not hurt them, especially with public opinion, to move fast. When a human is suspected they are likely to take their time and not make their investigation public.

    As for the legality of him have the snake and other animals, if you read the article I linked to earlier it says he was given those animals 10-13 years ago when he owned a "zoo". In 2006 he no longer ran the zoo and didn't apply for permits to keep the snakes and crocodilians after that. I think he would have been denied them without being a "zoo" and keeping them in a private residence from what I've read.
  • 08-15-2013, 06:40 AM
    mrkrec
    Re: News: 2 die in rock python attack
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by treeboa View Post
    I think the fact that they are taking their time proves they are looking at it as a murder. If they had real evidence against the snake, it would not hurt them, especially with public opinion, to move fast. When a human is suspected they are likely to take their time and not make their investigation public.

    As for the legality of him have the snake and other animals, if you read the article I linked to earlier it says he was given those animals 10-13 years ago when he owned a "zoo". In 2006 he no longer ran the zoo and didn't apply for permits to keep the snakes and crocodilians after that. I think he would have been denied them without being a "zoo" and keeping them in a private residence from what I've read.

    They already said it was asphyxiation .. What other info are they supposed to release? I don't mean to be Debbie downer here, but it looks like the case has been closed.
  • 08-15-2013, 07:06 AM
    treeboa
    Re: News: 2 die in rock python attack
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mrkrec View Post
    They already said it was asphyxiation .. What other info are they supposed to release? I don't mean to be Debbie downer here, but it looks like the case has been closed.

    They haven't given an actual cause of death. Asphyxiation can be caused by a lot of things, CO2, hanging, manual strangulation, compression, being constricted by a snake, and probably some I'm not thinking of. If it was by constriction, it would be obvious. There would be bite marks, broken ribs, obvious bruising in the area, etc. My point was that if these were present, what reason would there be to wait for further tests, like toxicology? If the case was closed the store owner would have been charged with something. At the very least he would be guilty of endangering children and negligence for not having the snake properly secured. If they're thinking murder, you bet they are going to wait for all tests and thoroughly investigate. I'm thinking that's why we haven't heard anything further and haven't seen anything done yet.
  • 08-15-2013, 07:28 AM
    Salamander Rising
    Re: News: 2 die in rock python attack
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by treeboa View Post
    They haven't given an actual cause of death. Asphyxiation can be caused by a lot of things, CO2, hanging, manual strangulation, compression, being constricted by a snake, and probably some I'm not thinking of. If it was by constriction, it would be obvious. There would be bite marks, broken ribs, obvious bruising in the area, etc. My point was that if these were present, what reason would there be to wait for further tests, like toxicology? If the case was closed the store owner would have been charged with something. At the very least he would be guilty of endangering children and negligence for not having the snake properly secured. If they're thinking murder, you bet they are going to wait for all tests and thoroughly investigate. I'm thinking that's why we haven't heard anything further and haven't seen anything done yet.

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  • 08-15-2013, 08:44 AM
    Neal
    Re: News: 2 die in rock python attack
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mrkrec View Post
    They already said it was asphyxiation .. What other info are they supposed to release? I don't mean to be Debbie downer here, but it looks like the case has been closed.

    Not to be rude here, but if you're going to go against the grain here you might want to do some research so you have ground to stand on instead of the guy below you making you seem like somebody who needs to re-attend middle school.

    Like he said asphyxiation can be caused by numerous things, it doesn't automatically mean snake. Please don't try to be more "media" and do your research next time.
  • 08-15-2013, 09:15 AM
    ironpython
    Re: News: 2 die in rock python attack
    A friend of mine who is a police officer told me an autopsy will tell the difference between asphyxiation and strangulation I think there is more to this story. Its another case of the media feeding on peoples fear of snakes to get ratings.

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  • 08-15-2013, 09:23 AM
    thedarkwolf25
    What I want to know is what KIND of asphyxia was the cause of death, if it was not compressive then it was not from the snake.
  • 08-15-2013, 09:39 AM
    mrkrec
    Re: News: 2 die in rock python attack
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Neal View Post
    Not to be rude here, but if you're going to go against the grain here you might want to do some research so you have ground to stand on instead of the guy below you making you seem like somebody who needs to re-attend middle school.

    Like he said asphyxiation can be caused by numerous things, it doesn't automatically mean snake. Please don't try to be more "media" and do your research next time.

    I have done the research. And that link from above, the same one posted earlier, is from the 8th. And it's the only one that talks about a murder investigation. No other major news outlet has mentioned it....
  • 08-15-2013, 09:45 AM
    mrkrec
    Re: News: 2 die in rock python attack
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sorraia View Post
    I tried searching for additional articles about a murder investigation (or anything besides "snake strangled two boys"), but couldn't find anything.

    Same here. Thank you.
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