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Originally Posted by joshthaxton

Especially if someone like myself might only check this site once or twice a day, because I'm busy w/ other, more important things

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Why don't you just subscribe to threads you want to keep track of? This way no matter how many "more important" things pop up you can still keep up to date here :gj:

The quarantine point to me is irrelevant. I am simply stating that the fact that threads get mysteriously "pruned" is poppycock.

I think that the fact that some people's opinions are "ok" while other's are "superior," therefore justified, is a direct definition of a double standard. That's all I'm saying, take what you will. When it all boils down it's just a forum

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Originally Posted by Spaniard

Why don't you just subscribe to threads you want to keep track of? This way no matter how many "more important" things pop up you can still keep up to date here :gj:

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Look, I'm not trying to sound like I'm more important or better than anyone on here, but when you go to college full time, and work full time, checking a forum isn't really on the top of my to-do list, that's all.

I had NO idea what I linked to was nazi or something! Spaniard just sent me a PM asking about why I posted it, and that it was about nazi's, I really had no clue!

I just saw their logo that said something along the lines of "No censorship" and "flaming allowed", and I found it to be appropriate for those that wanted to do that, they can go join a site that promotes flame wars.

Really, had NO idea what the site was actually about!

So sorrrrry.


Oh, and trust me. I have recieved plenty of reprimanding and my own fair share of infractions. Lets not get our panties in a bunch Pat.

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Originally Posted by joshthaxton

The quarantine point to me is irrelevant. I am simply stating that the fact that threads get mysteriously "pruned" is poppycock.

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Mysteriously Pruned? The forum gets auto-pruned I can't even find my own thread that I created where Andrew was bashing and "bear baiting" me because of it, it's just a part of the forum.

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Originally Posted by joshthaxton

I think that the fact that some people's opinions are "ok" while other's are "superior," therefore justified, is a direct definition of a double standard

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Okay Opinions and "Superior" opinions are a part of everyday life. Who's opinion on healthcare do you think the nation cares more about? The Presidents or your next door neighbor? Last I checked CNN/FOX didn't report on just anyone's opinion of that. And, as always, if you don't like, can't stand it, and if really makes your butt itch, you can always just not come in here. You choose to read these threads, you choose to give your opinion, and you choose to allow people to give their opinionated responses to your opinion.

Welcome to the internet, have a seat over there.

For the record Josh, I don't have anything against you, I'm just saying.

"Why can't we all just get along"
-Rodney King

Oohhhhkay.....I'm honestly not sure what I did to deserve such vitriol from Sasquatch Art. I'm not going to quote her post because it will be edited shortly to fit our TOS standards, and infractions will be given as they would to anyone posting in that manner.

You were waiting to be "poked by the police"??? How so, exactly? Not that I expect an answer, because you said you wouldn't post again. But I can't help but ask...how were you "poked"???

As for Connie...she received the same infraction anyone would have for posting such an inappropriate link. The link was removed because it was inappropriate for BP.net content and against our TOS. There was nothing else IN the post to save...it was just the link...so it was deleted. The same thing has been done countless times before when a post contains nothing but material that has to be deleted anyhow.

In order for this site to stay up and running, it MUST have a staff, and that staff must have leadership. I'm quite sure there are some people who will try to point to other sites that run just fine with no staff or leadership...but they are not BP.net and the comparison is useless. SOMEone has to make judgment calls on matters of enforcing the site's TOS. The judgment we choose to rely on belong to a carefully selected group of individuals that make up our staff. It would be utterly impossible to try and customize every judgment call to each of the thousands of individuals that participate here. We can't use Pat's standard of judgment...or Andrew's...or Connie's...or Aaron's...or anyone else's, because they're ALL very different and they ALL come from a point of view that is completely lacking in the knowledge of what is going on behind the scenes.

We get accused of never admitting or correcting mistakes...but when that exact thing happens moments later, the person making such an accusation says nothing. We get accused of having double-standards with regards to bear-baiting infractions. And yet when challenged to show a single example where a member was unfairly infracted for bear-baiting because of a "rolling eye" or sarcastic tone....we get nothing. We get accused of playing favorites for someone like Connie, who was infracted and dealt with in the exact same manner as anyone else would have been in the exact same situation.

I'm quite honestly sick and tired of trying to defend every little action or word. It doesn't matter one whit what we say or do, those that don't want to trust us to do our job won't trust us. Those who want to criticize will find plenty to pick at because we're just humans. I'm not saying our poo doesn't stink, but I WILL NOT back down and whimper just because someone doesn't like something myself or a staff member has done. There have been plenty of times in our history where we have made mistakes, and when we do, we immediately rectify and apologize. Infractions have been reversed. Threads or comments restored. Public and/or private apologies made to members that have been wronged in some way. But just because we don't jump to apologize when YOU say we should does not mean we never do or will.

This site will continue just fine without the participation of the folks that despise the leadership so much. If you can't trust us to run the site, then please, step up and let your voice be heard and we will make that little problem go away really fast for you. Count on it.

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Mysteriously Pruned? The forum gets auto-pruned I can't even find my own thread that I created where Andrew was bashing and "bear baiting" me because of it, it's just a part of the forum.



Okay Opinions and "Superior" opinions are a part of everyday life. Who's opinion on healthcare do you think the nation cares more about? The Presidents or your next door neighbor? Last I checked CNN/FOX didn't report on just anyone's opinion of that. And, as always, if you don't like, can't stand it, and if really makes your butt itch, you can always just not come in here. You choose to read these threads, you choose to give your opinion, and you choose to allow people to give their opinionated responses to your opinion.

Welcome to the internet, have a seat over there.

For the record Josh, I don't have anything against you, I'm just saying.

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Thank you. I also do not have a personal problem against you. I am just trying to state that while these things may happen every day, it does not make them right.
I know that the world is not fair blah blah blah, but I'm just simply stating the fact that one's opinion can be superior to another is contradicting of itself. An opinion is an opinion, no single one better or more justified than the other

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Originally Posted by DrLew

"Why can't we all just get along"
-Rodney King

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If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it.
~Julius Caesar

Lol. How did I suddenly get in this so called "estrogen squad"? Oh, because I'm a woman, and I posted in this thread?! Lolz.

I should have known! Standing up for someone (Brian, in that other thread) means I am totally in a clique, and I should be labeled in this imaginary squad.

I've been called worse. :rolleyes:

I feel like I'm back in highschool again. Yet, back then, I didn't really care what clique people put me in or what labels... so? What's your point? Ashley apparently feels I have done something to her, I'm ignorant to what it could possibly be.

I wish people would let me know when the different cliques we're doing roll call, I want to know what else I'm in! :8:

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Lol. How did I suddenly get in this so called "estrogen squad"? Oh, because I'm a woman, and I posted in this thread?! Lolz.

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Don't worry, truth of the matter is most the people posting in this thread are guys so we got you beat on Testosterone ;). Tell 'er Ed!

I've been nutered (most guys don't know that happens in the little room with the minister before the vows. Really what groomsmen are for is to hold the groom) so no more testostarone for me.. :D

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

The only reason I ask Pat is because I know for a fact that users can't see each others infractions..

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Thats BS. You can see a Red square on the post...thats ONE way to tell. You can also see under the users name if refractions have been received and how many points they are worth. That is the SECOND way to tell if someone has received infraction.

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

Oh, and trust me. I have recieved plenty of reprimanding and my own fair share of infractions. Lets not get our panties in a bunch Pat.

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I before E except after C...LOL

As far as my panties...its Tuesday lady panties are a Thursday thing

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

I've been nutered (most guys don't know that happens in the little room with the minister before the vows. Really what groomsmen are for is to hold the groom) so no more testostarone for me.. :D

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:rofl: Hahahahaha.

That must put Wes in the estrogen squad as well. Can't wait to hear his response on that. Is it ok to have good bear-baiting?

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

Thats BS. You can see a Red square on the post...thats ONE way to tell. You can also see under the users name if refractions have been received and how many points they are worth. That is the SECOND way to tell if someone has received infraction.

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She has Infractions you know...

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Originally Posted by AaronP

She has Infractions you know...

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Actually I was informed that 1/0 = 1 warning, so patty she can PM you a screenshot or something of her infractions.

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

Thats BS. You can see a Red square on the post...thats ONE way to tell. You can also see under the users name if refractions have been received and how many points they are worth. That is the SECOND way to tell if someone has received infraction.



I before E except after C...LOL

As far as my panties...its Tuesday lady panties are a Thursday thing

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Oh yes, my estrogen was getting in the way of my spelling. All apologies dear, lol.

I would like to know how we can go from a community that pulls together to help a fellow member after a tragedy to this type of community. It all makes me sick and completely ashamed.

I stay to the edges of this group- I am not a member of what some call the popular ones who some think control this group, nor am I on what is lately seen as "the other side" or an @ss kisser. I come here to learn, to share what small amount of knowledge I have and to talk to people who understand my addiction. I try my darnest to stay out of hot button issues and to respect others.

But...I have to say this. If you don't like how things are run and hate this place that much, please LEAVE! Threads like this are wrong on so many levels. I can only imagine being a new person to this site.

I don't always agree with the management team but for the most part, they do a great job with a site of this size. I would like to see some of you who are complaining (and tend to start issues alot more than other members- I think you guys just like to cause problems but that is just my opinion) try to do a better job.

Quite frankly, most people are making complete idiots of themselves with these threads.

To the left just a bit is another opinion on this....stuff.

It comes up from time to time on all forums. Several have mentioned it in this thread. It's part of community growth.

What the staff does with this situation, and it's not unique either now or here, is what determines whether a site lives or dies.

Other than me, and I'm not really, no one is perfect.

Pat, who's a good guy with a good brain, even if it is in the jar more often than not, has an opinion about staff. To him, it's valid. Staff, or those who have posted an opinion, differ with him.

But, unless I've missed something, he's still here, still welcome here, still a member of this community. I can see his point, understand how he arrived there, I just don't happen to agree with him THIS time. Uh oh, maybe we're not friends anymore. (yeah, some of this thread is that stupid)

Guys, as much as it's real, it's not real life, it isn't life or death.

Both ashley and her boyfriend were asking for what they got.

Teased and questioned with barbed humor.

Yes, wounded unto death by it, the both of them were.

That's why they kept coming back.

Let's talk about fair for a minute here.

Some of you keep throwing out that this is the fairest site on the net. WHO has said that? I don't see any BPnet bumper stickers making this claim. I have yet to see cotton covered rubber melons proclaiming that the fairest of them all is BPnet. It's not on anyone's signature that I've seen.

So, where is this statement coming from?

I'll say this, BPnet is one of THE fairest. Don't know about #1 for all around equality, but they're in the top few.

What is WRONG WITH THAT? That's pretty damn good, to be at the top, even really close to it is fine.

So, complain, explain, disdain, refrain and sustain but, before you go slamming yourself in the ass with a door, consider this; why are you here?

No one has claimed perfection. In fact, I've seen the exact opposite.

If no one has claimed a thing is to be found here, then those of you pissing and moaning about not finding what isn't here really need to have another look at your goal and see if you're on the road to its acquisition or caught in a cul-de-sac, swirling endlessly and for no good reason.

Thats it, WE ARE NOT FRIENDS!

OH MY GOD (the belief in whom I have serious issues with) How the BLOODY HELL did I, Me, WILOMN, become the ratchety voice of reason.

I knew I shouldn't have eaten that cookie. But it was so round and brown and made such promises.....

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Originally Posted by Sasquatch Art

>.<

I was waiting for the police to come over and poke at me, being the Girlfriend and all.

Ok lets just be straight forward. I am standing here because I am so sick of certain Mods/Admins walking around like their opinion doesn't stink. With the "You can't touch me attitude."

And I am pointing at you Judy.. Oh, and lets not forget your squad.. Hehe That includes you Connie ;}

Speaking of Connie.. I love your artwork. You and of course the selected know what I am referring too.
*coughs* Hitler post *coughs*
Where were the infractions and punishment you received for that? I thought this was the fairest forum around. Oh yeah you guys are to good for all that.

You walk around saying you have this amazing forum but in the background you bear bait, poke, and say these little comments to get people going. But no matter what is said you are always going to win and try and make yourselves out as the good guy/right guy.

I am going with Jerhart.. I am done and this will be my last post on Bp.net. So Judy or whoever.. whether it be squad member, don't waste your time and come at me.

The thing about the TOS.. That was a smart as way of saying.. If the OWNER cant even follow her damn rules and regulations.. I think you have some major problems...perhaps your standards on regulations are too high?...

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She got banned, for this?

Or am I missing something?

Hi,

I edited that post after the infractions Matt - same as I do with every other post with censor smilies or unacceptable language.

It is noted at the bottom of the post along with the reasons for the edit.


dr del

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Originally Posted by DutchHerp

She got banned, for this?

Or am I missing something?

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As has proven not at all uncommon of late, you are missing something.

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

I edited that post after the infractions Matt - same as I do with every other post with censor smilies or unacceptable language.

It is noted at the bottom of the post along with the reasons for the edit.


dr del

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I read the original post, I quoted what was left.

Again, my question applies.

Why should it matter to you even if she did? The tone I am getting from that post just implies that you want to stir up yet another reaction. Can you not tell from her post that she wanted to leave..said she was leaving on her free will

No, I'm just wondering, because she is voicing her opinion. And I'm just asking if that one post got her banned.

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Originally Posted by DutchHerp

No, I'm just wondering, because she is voicing her opinion. And I'm just asking if that one post got her banned.

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Which has been answered.

More than once.

Shall we type slower for you or can you keep up on your own?

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Which has been answered.

More than once.

Shall we type slower for you or can you keep up on your own?

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Yeah that might stick, considering I'm such an idiot, no?

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I'm such an idiot, no?

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You'll find no argument to that here.

Hi,

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Originally Posted by DutchHerp

....... because she is voicing her opinion. ......

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No Matt, she was being disrespectful and using language we do not allow on the site.

We do not moderate your opinions, never have - never will. What ideas you allow to roam inside the privacy of your own head are entirely your own affair.

We DO moderate what you choose to type on the site in accordance with the rules you agreed to when you joined.

If you do not see the distinction between those two concepts I really do not know what to do or say.

And if you find the limits imposed on you here too restrictive to bear then by all means seek alternatives.


dr del

I showed Jas that post. He wanted me to share his feelings with you>

Hi,

Then I hope he also offers to share the infraction points with you.


dr del

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Hi,

Then I hope he also offers to share the infraction points with you.


dr del

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Hey, It's not my fault he used my keyboard.. Be "fair" here.

Hi,

I infracted the account responsible - not the banned user who surely knows better than to post on the site.


dr del

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

I infracted the account responsible - not the banned user who surely knows better than to post on the site.


dr del

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ok, as long as it was just my account being infracted and not me it's ok. Good jod mister mod!:gj:

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Hey, It's not my fault he used my keyboard.. Be "fair" here.

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I wonder how many people honestly read the TOS through..Just saying :gj:

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

not the banned user who surely knows better than to post on the site.


dr del

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HI!

Jas Again, Um what does that mean? I know better?

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

I wonder how many people honestly read the TOS through..Just saying :gj:

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I never do! Just sayin!:8:

I'm confused now..who is Jas, and why so immature?

People are droppin like flies around here....

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

People are droppin like flies around here....

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Natural to any spot that's had a much live crap dropped on it as has been done here the last few days.

It's good that most flies have such short lifespans but it's a pain sweeping out the carc ASSes.

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Originally Posted by DutchHerp

No, I'm just wondering, because she is voicing her opinion. And I'm just asking if that one post got her banned.

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Matt, I have been sitting back the last few days attempting to follow on the absolute nonsense occurring on this site and admit I am failing miserably at it.

But what has been the worse thing to see, is how people are wandering around stirring up the pot, questioning everything, and asking for explanations/validations (that are only asked to place doubt and to question other's integrity).

Anyone who has been banned from participating in this forum has worked very hard at it, has encouraged it, welcomed it and pursued it.

I would suggest a quick googling of "self-fulfilling prophecy".

They are no martyrs in this virtual drama, but many are being played. Yourself included.

You have chosen to immerse yourself steadfastly into ages old politics that people are CHOOSING to bring to this site and in agendas that are long standing.

I say this with respect and hope you can see the merit in it... but perhaps it is time for yourself (and many others) to sit down and type something about a snake?

Bruce

I for one, feel the mods/admins do an amazing job with this site. I belong to tons of forums, and I see people throwing their weight around, but I don't really ever see it here. If some members don't like it, they can leave. It's a simple as that. I don't really understand what's so hard about that. I've never seen so many people complaining about the staff here, and it's a small group that has actually done most of the complaining. You know darned well when you say certain things infractions will follow. I've had my infraction points in the past and deserved em all. Going out of your way to question their integrity in the open forum or through PM is just you trying to stir up trouble. I don't need to be informed of what my opinion should be through PM or openly. I'm perfectly capable of making my own informed decisions and forming my own opinions. People that were banned were banned for a reason. How many folks have you even actually seen get banned over the last couple of years? Not many compared to other sites. I think that say a ton for the staff here and how they handle things.

No complaints!

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to sit down and type something about a snake?

Bruce

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This is my Ball Python.
There are many like it but this one is mine.
My Ball Python is my best friend.
It is my life.
I must master it as I must master my life.
Without me, my Ball Python is useless.
Without my Ball Python I am useless.
I must raise my Ball Python true.
I must care for my Ball Python better than anyone, who is trying to out do me.
I must out do them before they out do me.
I will.
Before the Flying Spaghetti Monster I swear this creed: my Ball Python and myself are defenders of my reputation, we are the masters of our competitors, we are the saviors of my life. So be it, until there are no competitors, but peace. Amen.

I just wanted to let you all know I love all of you.

I also love ball pythons, hence the reason I'm here on this forum that lacks a particular amount of 'forum trash' that most forums have an abundance of. This, here, is an example of forum trash, though there are quite a few good well spoken words as well. Those, I take to heart.

Now. To drop some trash, and move on to ball pythons. :gj:

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I just wanted to let you all know I love all of you.

I also love ball pythons, hence the reason I'm here on this forum that lacks a particular amount of 'forum trash' that most forums have an abundance of. This, here, is an example of forum trash, though there are quite a few good well spoken words as well. Those, I take to heart.

Now. To drop some trash, and move on to ball pythons. :gj:

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Hi i love pie how about you :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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This is my Ball Python.
There are many like it but this one is mine.
My Ball Python is my best friend.
It is my life.
I must master it as I must master my life.
Without me, my Ball Python is useless.
Without my Ball Python I am useless.
I must raise my Ball Python true.
I must care for my Ball Python better than anyone, who is trying to out do me.
I must out do them before they out do me.
I will.
Before the Flying Spaghetti Monster I swear this creed: my Ball Python and myself are defenders of my reputation, we are the masters of our competitors, we are the saviors of my life. So be it, until there are no competitors, but peace. Amen.

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LMAO!!!! :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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People are droppin like flies around here....

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So thats what that smell is :O :rolleyes: :P