Need some perspective (gore)

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Originally Posted by Morphie

looks like leaning on her helped, you guys. Thanks for all the support, and thanks to Melicious and Shadi11 for keeping in touch with her.

She's lucky this isn't fauna - she'd already be ripped apart.

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Yeah, let's hope it works out for the best for this poor snake. -Whimpers.- I just want to put it out of its misery.

I hope it helped and she's actually treating it. I'm still not all that convinced. I know that medicine names are complex, but she spelled at least two wrong on her list of meds. I'd think if she really wanted to convince people that she was treating it, she could at least spell the names right.... argh, I have hardly any faith in people!

Well... I'm gonna take that she took down the photobucket pictures and deleted threads on other websites in that she is not doing what she should. She didn't like what she heard and I'm guessing that poor snake will die slowly and painfully in the next few days, if it hasn't already. For the snake's sake I hope that it has already died and isn't suffering anymore.

I saved some photos just in case :) I had a feeling she would do that.

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Originally Posted by janeothejungle

AAAAHHHHH. This dumb ____ twit and her alter ego (who share the same IP, btw), have now taken the same story to a different forum, only now they are pretending it 'just happened' and they were 'called in to help'. See the BS for yourself......

http://www.reptileforums.com/forums/...ad.php?t=52221

I ranted on the last forum, it's someone elses turn.

:rage::rage::rage::rage::rage::rage::rage::rage:

~Kat

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It's telling me this is an invalid thread link :(

reptile forums deleted the thread or hid it (i hate places that just absorb threads like that - ugh).

since this thread is incomplete without the original photo:

http://pics.livejournal.com/maru_mar...4r45x/s640x480

If one of the mods here would like to put it back in place on the first post (since she's now removed it) it's in a permanent location now and won't get moved again.

Morphie,
We can't follow the other threads anymore... have you had any updates on the bp's condition?
I was really hoping she'd find her way here... but I guess if she did, she saw this thread and backed out in a hurry.

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Originally Posted by anatess

Morphie,
We can't follow the other threads anymore... have you had any updates on the bp's condition?
I was really hoping she'd find her way here... but I guess if she did, she saw this thread and backed out in a hurry.

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I am no longer in touch with the rescuer - she's understandably avoiding me since I brought a lot of stuff down on her head by getting you guys involved and making a huge fuss in the first place. She does have contact with a few folks that have sent me updates, but all i've heard is that she's undergoing treatment with some injections, cremes, and a flush prescribed by her vet.

I think that if the snake dies, we'll never hear about her again, and if it lives, we'll know it when Jlynn comes back to gloat about how she "saved a life". :rolleyes:

This is just so awful!! How could it even be alive like that. :O

The poor poor thing!

I just read this thread and humans never cease to amaze me, an animal like that with its spine showing and it took her HOW long to bring it to a vet? (if she even did) it should of been humanely put down, no questions about it. Also, is there any proof this animal actually came from a "pet store"? For all we know it was her snake to begin with, she was the moron who left it in with a rat and maybe thats why she refused to have it put down? maybe she sees it as "fer fault?" No clue.. but I wish either the snake the best in a super amazingly speedy recovery or... a quick death. (if we can consider anything past even an hour of being like that quick..)

Heart breaking.. :(

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Originally Posted by filly77

I just read this thread and humans never cease to amaze me, an animal like that with its spine showing and it took her HOW long to bring it to a vet? (if she even did) it should of been humanely put down, no questions about it. Also, is there any proof this animal actually came from a "pet store"? For all we know it was her snake to begin with, she was the moron who left it in with a rat and maybe thats why she refused to have it put down? maybe she sees it as "fer fault?" No clue.. but I wish either the snake the best in a super amazingly speedy recovery or... a quick death. (if we can consider anything past even an hour of being like that quick..)

Heart breaking.. :(

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Very insightful! We'll never know..but it's quite possible. Hopefully, even if she's not posting, she's reading and know we wish her only the best for the sake of the animal.

oops shoulda been "her fault" lol

I will see if i can find out some updates. She was supposed to go back to the vet this week sometime.. I will let you know what I hear.

Thanks Shadi, I'd love to hear how everything is going.

Any news on this? I hope the snake has been put out of it's misery....

Snake is still alive. Not showing signs of infection and being treated still under vet advise. I am waiting on possibly updated pics..

Did you ever get any updated pics?? I hope the snake makes it.. But those wounds were pretty bad.. I'd love to know if it's still doing ok..

Alan

Are you sure that was a rat bite? The cut looks almost like a slice and the snake would have fought back and at least scared off the rat before it got in THAT DEEP. I mean I honestly don't know and wasn't there but I've seen rat attacks before and never seen it attack the same area like that and make an almost perfect curve, looks almost like it was a slice, again can't say for sure.

I just saw this thread today and haven't read every post. I do see that she has posted this stuff on at least a few forums. Am I cynical to wonder if this is a scam to get people to sent monetary donations? Has anyone determined this situation to be genuine?

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Originally Posted by dsirkle

I just saw this thread today and haven't read every post. I do see that she has posted this stuff on at least a few forums. Am I cynical to wonder if this is a scam to get people to sent monetary donations? Has anyone determined this situation to be genuine?

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It seems rather unlikely - for all of her acting up and being frustrating on the forums, she never once asked for a penny. At least one member offered to pay for the euthanasia and the besnaked party showed no interest in this arrangement as a potential scam or otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Morphie

It seems rather unlikely - for all of her acting up and being frustrating on the forums, she never once asked for a penny. At least one member offered to pay for the euthanasia and the besnaked party showed no interest in this arrangement as a potential scam or otherwise.

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It sure is a tear jerking photo. I just wondered about it.

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Originally Posted by dsirkle

It sure is a tear jerking photo. I just wondered about it.

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yeah, that's fair, but no - there was no evidence of foul play at least in that regard. the girl just wanted "advice" but ignored all demands that it go to the nearest animal hospital until she felt sufficiently pressured. I hope to hear that the snake got better or died quickly - it certainly was awful.

WHAT WAS THE WOMAN SMOKIN. Im sorry, but thats awful! This woman better be riding the guilt train! Hopefully the Ball will make a full recovery...

Heres some updated pics.. looks to be the wound is healing.. To the best of its ability at least
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b9...e/DSC01158.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b9...e/DSC01155.jpg
She is still under vet care and she said she just shed so they are trying to get as much off..

That poor snake. -Sighs.- My heart goes out to him/her.

well that looks alot better than i expected. i hope it pulls all the way through. at least she is taking it to the vet.....or at least thats what she says.

Well with the names of medications I was given I dont doubt it was taken. I gave her the info on the best place to take it.. Thats all I could do.

OH BOY! That's the WORST BP attack I've seen and let me tell you the runner up barely lost a little skin. Jesus, no one took that animal to the vet? What was she thinking? You realize that kind of cruelty even if she did not participate in the slaughter she is an accessory to the fact simply because SHE DID NOTHING about it! I love all my snakes but honestly I'd put the snake down rather than have it suffer for the rest of it's life, even if those DEEP holes do heal up the snake will never be the same.

still ouch. I almost threw up from the "healing" photo. Poor snake.

shadi thanks for the continued updates. Hope the poor girl makes it after everything she's been through :no:

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Originally Posted by Morphie

shadi thanks for the continued updates. Hope the poor girl makes it after everything she's been through :no:

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I will continue to try to find out how its doing. I hope she makes it as well being that its been thru a ton.. :please:

You can actually see the spine just under the skin. Paralysis was only a millimeter away. But I do believe that the snake can recover if no infection sets in.

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Originally Posted by dsirkle

You can actually see the spine just under the skin. Paralysis was only a millimeter away. But I do believe that the snake can recover if no infection sets in.

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To even get down that far you have to rip through nerves and much needed tissue. That snake will be in pain for the rest of it's life.

Wow, that is an amazing testement to the recovery power of the snake... Snake is looking way better than I thought it would.. now it's come this far I hope it pulls through...

I know I'm a minority on this but I was really hoping the snake can pull through without getting euthanized. There's a sign on the reptile store close to my house that reads, "The only bad snake is a dead snake.". I think he got it from Steve Irwin or something... I'm sooo glad to know the snake is healing and getting good vet care.

Anyway, Shadi, et. al., do you know if the snake finally started feeding? I'm very concerned that the snake will refuse to go near a rat - alive or dead - from all that trauma...

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Originally Posted by anatess

I know I'm a minority on this but I was really hoping the snake can pull through without getting euthanized. There's a sign on the reptile store close to my house that reads, "The only bad snake is a dead snake.". I think he got it from Steve Irwin or something... I'm sooo glad to know the snake is healing and getting good vet care.

Anyway, Shadi, et. al., do you know if the snake finally started feeding? I'm very concerned that the snake will refuse to go near a rat - alive or dead - from all that trauma...

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I just checked on that and so far the snake is still refusing food.She even offered smaller food with hopes it may not see that as a threat. I guess we can wait and see. That is my fear as well .

I didn't read through the whole thing, but I gather she took it to the vet. I was going to say, there's a guy I know on a sportbike forum that can find anything on anyone.

A guy said "Try and find me" to him, and the next day he had pictures of his car at his job! Posted his address, phone number, full name etc.

Guess it doesn't matter now. I hope everything goes well, I can't see pictures up here at work most of the time.

That's sick. That poor little snake got eaten. :/

This kind of thing doesn't happen in 3 seconds when you just turn your back. It at LEAST should have taken 5 minutes for that rat to chew to the bone and eat.. everything around it... ugh. Why wasn't she watching?

It reminds me of the article I found online once about someone who nailed a ball python into a phone poll in many different places (including through his jaw)... alive... And he survived, but barely...


Shameful..

Hope she'll keep recovering...

That animal should have been put down. Her spine is showing. Her freaking spine is showing. Even keeping it alive is torture imo, and it should have been put down, either in a freezer like Ralph Davis stated for Caramels that don't do well and have major kinks, or put into a chamber and gassed like what is done to rodents. In either case it would be better for the snake than living after that extensive of injuries. Had all the skin on my sides and back been ripped off I would be pleading for death, not medical attention.

Rats can make good human pets but not snake pets! Rats can hurt a snake with in seconds! Never leave anything other then pinkies alone in a snake tank!

Since we haven't heard the owner anywhere, showing pics of the miracle healing and a successful rescue on her part, I am going to step out here and say that I think it probably passed away.

If it had survived, I do not think she would have been able to resist rubbing that in for everyone, considering her attitude/replys on other forums she posted on.

That it may have passed on, IMO is the best possible outcome for that python...I have done skeletal articulations of pythons and boids in the past, and I can tell you from first hand experience, for the amount of the spinal column that is visibly showing, quite large amounts of muscle, ligaments, and nerves would have to be removed...that poor thing would never, and I repeat never have had a normal life without constant agonizing pain, if it had survived.

Humans have morphine, Vicodin, and other strong painkillers...which in some cases barely even take the edge off of the pain, depending on the injury...to say that snake would be normal and happy, without even the limited benefit of such powerful narcotic meds is utterly absurd and unbelievably selfish...

I sincerely pray that python has left this world, and that it will never again suffer at the hands of indifferent, selfish and cruel humans...

this is one of the most horrible things I have ever seen. I actually have tears in my eyes now from seeing both the disgusting first pic and the healed pics. god that poor snake :tears: :tears: I'm glad it managed to heal somewhat and it does looks better...but it's still awful.

like someone said on the first page (I can't remember who because I'm so upset now), if I had found a snake in that condition I would have dropped everything to bring it to a vet right away, even if I didn't have the money to. I would have gotten the money somehow. I don't even want to think about imagining how much agony that poor snake was in, and to deny it anything that would help ease its pain is simply abhorrent.

Glad the issue was "resolved" though and I hope the snake continues to heal successfully. But god :cens0r: :rage: some people!!!!!!!

and whoever caused this snake's suffering initially, whether through negligence or otherwise, should definitely be punished somehow. WTF is wrong with people???!!! :rage::mad::rage::mad:

okay I think I'm done now :) sorry when I saw this I just had to say something :P

As far as I last knew a couple weeks ago the snake was still alive. I know its not the greatest thing. I was willing to go get it to take and have it put down. The vet she is taking it to is a highly regaurded vet in the reptile community. I dont know if she is treating the snake because she sees hope or for the owners wishes. I can not check with her as my contact was thru a forum that seems to be down. if it comes up I can.

Wow I'm speechless.....

Speechless and hoping for the best for the little one...Breaks my heart just thinking of what it might be going through...

Ohhhhhh....... why did I just eat that piece of chocolate? Ohhh gosh, I'm going to puke now.....

That is beyond sick. That is beyond horrific. I have now officially lost hope in humanity...

I say you call animal control. That snake needs help!!!!!! That snake could sooooo easily get infection and die. Actually, if it were my snake and I couldn't get access to any pain meds, I'd take it to be euthanized. I honestly don't think it has a chance on its own without help.

Oh my gosh, my stomach, my stomach. I'm really going to puke.

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Originally Posted by ilovemylizard

Since we haven't heard the owner anywhere, showing pics of the miracle healing and a successful rescue on her part, I am going to step out here and say that I think it probably passed away.

If it had survived, I do not think she would have been able to resist rubbing that in for everyone, considering her attitude/replys on other forums she posted on.

That it may have passed on, IMO is the best possible outcome for that python...I have done skeletal articulations of pythons and boids in the past, and I can tell you from first hand experience, for the amount of the spinal column that is visibly showing, quite large amounts of muscle, ligaments, and nerves would have to be removed...that poor thing would never, and I repeat never have had a normal life without constant agonizing pain, if it had survived.

Humans have morphine, Vicodin, and other strong painkillers...which in some cases barely even take the edge off of the pain, depending on the injury...to say that snake would be normal and happy, without even the limited benefit of such powerful narcotic meds is utterly absurd and unbelievably selfish...

I sincerely pray that python has left this world, and that it will never again suffer at the hands of indifferent, selfish and cruel humans...

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I noticed that too, the amount of tissue removed from in between the vertebrae.

That girl, is a sick and terrible person for keeping that snake alive. It does not deserve the life she thinks shes giving it.

this tuned my stomach....

Makes me so not want to feed live unless it's a blind baby!

wow this is an old thread! this is why you dont just leave a live rodent with your snake to make friends with. this didnt happen in 1 hour, but it can if that rodent is starving to begin with!