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  • 07-11-2008, 09:03 PM
    pythontricker
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    You wouldn't wanna make me cry wold ya? :tears::tears::tears::tears: I NEED TO SEE BABY PICTURES MUAHAHAHAHA!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
  • 07-13-2008, 09:06 AM
    roosterman2173
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Maybe he's waiting til they get bigger so he can breed them to prove them out.lol
  • 07-13-2008, 11:07 AM
    Simon Hamelin
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
  • 07-13-2008, 11:08 AM
    Jerhart
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Holy Macaroni! :O :gj::gj::gj::gj::gj::gj:


    soooo....what is it? :)
  • 07-13-2008, 12:42 PM
    Schlyne
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    I love it! Should be interesting to see how it goes.
  • 07-13-2008, 12:45 PM
    broadude
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Niiiice!!:bow:

    Het Ivory/het pied breeding?
  • 07-13-2008, 01:02 PM
    BrucenBruce
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Dat's an _awesome_ animal, Simon!

    Broadude - no pied involved, as it doesn't have any _pure_ white spots (see the ivory dorsal striping?) or a piebald's aberrant pattern. Could be a "paradox ivory", or could be something entirely new. Gotta be the coolest snake I've seen this season so far!

    ~Bruce
  • 07-13-2008, 01:05 PM
    reptile3
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Stunning!!! The pictures were well worth the wait!! Thanks Simon.
    Gorgeous snake there!:gj:
  • 07-13-2008, 01:05 PM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    The pattern is somewhat intact where it shows up so there is no pied. It's an ivory who forgot in a few places:confused:
  • 07-13-2008, 01:22 PM
    Bruce Whitehead
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    That is amazing Simon, love the clean ivory stripe with that pattern.

    You really hit something there. Congrats.

    Bruce
  • 07-13-2008, 01:32 PM
    TooManyToys
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Very very cool!!! Now you need to prove that out so we can all get one :D
  • 07-13-2008, 01:43 PM
    hoax
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    I have a kidney I'm not using.....

    Wanna trade??????
  • 07-13-2008, 01:46 PM
    mischevious21
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    :O:O:O OMG!!! That is such a stunning snake!! Congradulations on that- WOW!!! It looks like a pied- but just even more beautiful!!! Your a lucky guy :D
  • 07-13-2008, 01:58 PM
    Simon Hamelin
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    one more .................;)

    Yellow Belly , Ivory and paradox Ivory


    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...YBandIvory.jpg
  • 07-13-2008, 02:27 PM
    panthercz
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Fantastic looking little snake!! Congrats big time!! :banana: :bow:
  • 07-13-2008, 02:31 PM
    cassandra
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    WANT.

    Big congrats...that guy is SO cool. :)
  • 07-13-2008, 02:51 PM
    Corallus
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Incredible beautiful.:O Congratulated!
  • 07-13-2008, 03:09 PM
    Mochelem
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Thanks Simon, I got your e-mail back thank you for posting for us.. Great looking snake...


    To everyone on this forum Simon replied to my e-mail saying he doesnt speak english very well and he has to have a translator that is why he doesnt post more....
  • 07-13-2008, 03:14 PM
    snakelady
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Simon Hamelin View Post
    one more .................;)

    Yellow Belly , Ivory and paradox Ivory


    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...YBandIvory.jpg

    LOVE 'EM!!!!!!!!!

    :O :O :O :O
  • 07-13-2008, 03:27 PM
    ChicaPiton519
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    haha holy crap.

    thats awesome.




    my mom is weird, and asked if something was wrong with it.
    she totally doesnt understand...

    if i hatched out some BELs or pieds or something crazy she would be like "is there something wrong with them?"

    lol


    but dude thats so hot
  • 07-13-2008, 06:12 PM
    broadude
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BrucenBruce View Post
    Dat's an _awesome_ animal, Simon!

    Broadude - no pied involved, as it doesn't have any _pure_ white spots (see the ivory dorsal striping?) or a piebald's aberrant pattern. Could be a "paradox ivory", or could be something entirely new. Gotta be the coolest snake I've seen this season so far!

    ~Bruce

    I noted the stripe..thats where the YB (Het Ivory) guess came from...the patterning is weird... but now that you mentioned it..it does differ from the Pied.

    Thanks! Correction noted.
  • 07-13-2008, 06:27 PM
    patb201985
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    wow !!! i just seen this thread. that is one SMOKING BP !!! amazing to look at !!! Congrats.... cant wait to see it grown !
  • 07-13-2008, 06:47 PM
    Dragoon
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    I just want to guess....Yellow Belly Piebald and the white on the piebald lets the ivory trait show through. well that is my guess.
  • 07-13-2008, 07:14 PM
    JLC
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    That is utterly amazing! It doesn't seem to follow most of the usual aberrant "paradox" patterning and does look more like a pied's patterning....but without the typical pied look. I WONDER if this could possibly be a new Ivory-Pied gene? How I would love to have a snake like that to try and prove out! Not to mention just to sit and look at all the time...what a little beauty!!
  • 07-13-2008, 07:59 PM
    casperca
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    That is truely unique! That would be amazing if it is a new ivory-pied gene like Judy suggested. Keep us posted!
  • 07-13-2008, 08:32 PM
    Bristen
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    What a beauty Simon! Not only you get this wacko paradox, but it looks like you had a few other ivories in there too... great clutch! Must of been Ivory male to het-ivory female I bet?

    Anyways, congrats on an awesome clutch :)

    Bristen.
  • 07-14-2008, 02:48 PM
    andwhy6
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    YEAH! finally we see the amazing snake. thats really awesome! do you know the complete background of dam and sire?
  • 07-14-2008, 02:50 PM
    TheMolenater2
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Amazing snakes!!! :gj::gj:
  • 07-14-2008, 02:54 PM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    I donno about you, but I would hold it back and see if that's genetic. With the popularity of Pieds, this could be something new that will be awesome!

    Fantastic Paradox!
  • 08-23-2008, 10:11 PM
    andwhy6
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    this snake looks very similar to what you hatched so i thought id show ya. its at the very bottom of the page

    http://www.exoticsbynature.com/05daytonaphotos.html
  • 08-23-2008, 10:27 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Simon, congratulations! That's a stunning clutch even without the paradox Ivory in it but even more so with that special little one. Please keep us updated on this snake as it matures. It's going to be one gorgeous adult I bet.
  • 08-24-2008, 12:51 AM
    SnakieMom
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    :tongue2: :worship:
  • 08-24-2008, 01:17 AM
    sweety314
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Just to repeat:

    OMG, what an awesomely beautiful baby!!! Congrats...that snake is just HOT! :tongue2: Sluuuuuuuuurp
  • 08-24-2008, 07:51 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Oh My God That Is Amazing!!!
  • 08-24-2008, 11:18 PM
    masta_ballZ
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    simon will you have the paradox ivory at the next show in Mississauga, because i would like to see it in person...congrats...
  • 08-24-2008, 11:49 PM
    crystal
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    that is a gorgeous snake!!

    question (cause i dont know much about morphs) what is the difference between a pied and a paradox?

    thanks sorry im dumb about this stuff.
  • 08-25-2008, 09:00 AM
    JAMills
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    That is an amazing looking animal! I love the little yellow stripe down the spine between the normal patches. You can definately tell it is not a pied.
  • 08-26-2008, 03:15 PM
    Dave763
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by crystal View Post
    that is a gorgeous snake!!

    question (cause i dont know much about morphs) what is the difference between a pied and a paradox?

    thanks sorry im dumb about this stuff.

    Pied is a recessive trait, while a paradox is a "leaky gene" as in the paradox albino.
  • 08-27-2008, 06:51 PM
    akaangela
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    That is one beautiful ball. I LOVE the yellow stripe down his back. Think you can get another one next year????
  • 06-02-2013, 04:49 AM
    Ssssseeing Lavender
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Simon Hamelin View Post
    This hatchling is the result of a cross yb x yb

    6 eggs ........

    3 YB 2 Ivorys and i guess i would call this one a paradox ivory


    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...o185901070.jpg

    I don't think this is paradox. Paradox looks like black smudges or smears.This is likely some hidden genetic trait that one, or both, of the snakes has. Are the snakes you bred related by chance? And do you have pictures of the parents? On a seperate note....it's clear that nobody likes the snake. I will take one for the team and buy it from you for $100!:D
  • 06-02-2013, 04:55 AM
    carlson
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ssssseeing Lavender View Post
    I don't think this is paradox. Paradox looks like black smudges or smears.This is likely some hidden genetic trait that one, or both, of the snakes has. Are the snakes you bred related by chance? And do you have pictures of the parents? On a seperate note....it's clear that nobody likes the snake. I will take one for the team and buy it from you for $100!:D

    Been 4.5 years they may have adult pics of the snake ; ) haha

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  • 06-02-2013, 12:47 PM
    bcr229
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by carlson View Post
    Been 4.5 years they may have adult pics of the snake ; ) haha

    Holy zombie resurrection! Though that snake is a beaut. I wonder if there are any clutches from it yet?
  • 06-02-2013, 01:10 PM
    interloc
    I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Read the date of a thread before you comment on it. Gaaaaa
  • 06-02-2013, 01:30 PM
    Capray
    Nice zombie threading, Carly lol

    I think it was a random paradox. I want to see what it looks like as an adult!
  • 06-02-2013, 07:13 PM
    carlson
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    Holy zombie resurrection! Though that snake is a beaut. I wonder if there are any clutches from it yet?

    It wasn't me that first commented! The dude I quoted did

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  • 06-02-2013, 07:25 PM
    carlson
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by interloc View Post
    Read the date of a thread before you comment on it. Gaaaaa

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Capray View Post
    Nice zombie threading, Carly lol

    I think it was a random paradox. I want to see what it looks like as an adult!

    Look at the post before mine it wasn't me that brought it back up... and capray do not call me that end of that now you know my name


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  • 06-03-2013, 08:32 AM
    sweety314
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by carlson View Post
    Been 4.5 years they may have adult pics of the snake ; ) haha

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2

    NOTHING wrong with resurrection!!! ESPECIALLY of something like this, that DESERVES some follow-up!!!! Think I'm gonna contact him and see if he's still got the "baby" (maybe it was sold?) and what it looks like as an adult. SMOKIN'!
  • 06-03-2013, 01:15 PM
    carlson
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sweety314 View Post
    NOTHING wrong with resurrection!!! ESPECIALLY of something like this, that DESERVES some follow-up!!!! Think I'm gonna contact him and see if he's still got the "baby" (maybe it was sold?) and what it looks like as an adult. SMOKIN'!

    Look before my post I didnt resurrect it, some new person posted before the crap I quoted idk why people think I did its annoying the crap out of me. Im well aware to check dates that's why I was saying its been 4.5 years. Telling them they brought a old post to life.

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  • 06-03-2013, 01:40 PM
    JLC
    Re: I was hoping to get Ivories, but for sure, not these ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by carlson View Post
    Look before my post I didnt resurrect it, some new person posted before the crap I quoted idk why people think I did its annoying the crap out of me. Im well aware to check dates that's why I was saying its been 4.5 years. Telling them they brought a old post to life.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2

    Sweety didn't say that you resurrected it, she simply said there was nothing wrong with it having been done. She quoted you because YOU seemed to be critical of the fact that it was resurrected, not because she thought you were the first to bring it up again.

    It's such a minor issue, both the resurrection of an old thread, AND quotes perhaps being misinterpreted. If this is the worst thing that happens to any of us today, I think we should be thankful for having had such a marvelous day. ;)
  • 06-03-2013, 01:57 PM
    Rickys_Reptiles
    Did anyone ever get in contact with the breeder to find out what it looks like as an adult, or if it produced any offspring? I'm glad this was resurected, it was an outstanding read and that snake is absolutly amazing. Easily one of the nicest looking snakes I've seen.
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