Introducing a New Method for Enforcing TOS/Site Rules

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Originally Posted by wilomn

I do agree with you on the latter though.

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I agree with your agreement on the latter part as well....

There I said it.

I do not understand all the complaining in this thread :confused::confused:.I see it like this.If the mods and admins see a need to update the rules here then so be it.We are thier guests and if you dont like the rules here then HIT THE ROAD JACK :rofl::rofl:.Now back to the REAL reasons to be here :gj:

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Bcampos and Wilomn, you are both looking like you're inciting each other. :colbert: I am GLAD I am not an admin or mod - making the infraction calls is going to be a tough one.

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If asking for clarification of a definitive statement is inciting, then have at it.

I do agree with you on the latter though.

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Originally Posted by bcampos

I agree with your agreement on the latter part as well....

There I said it.

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What are you agreeing with?

I was agreeing with melissa that I too am glad she's not a mod. Is that what you were agreeing with me on?

You're not exactly clear on what you try to say when you write your thoughts out.

Do you re-read what you write to see if it might not make sense to someone reading it who does not have access to the inner monologue you have going or do you just type and submit?

Hey, I'm all for this new system. After all, this site and its forums are, First and Foremost, a place for people to come and learn about snake and other reptile keeping. With this new system, a newbie just coming on could see the 'negative' as well as positive aspects of the members and thus, for example, would be able to make even more educated decisions on whether to talk to a person, take their advice, or try to do business with them.

It's very important, especially on a site that gets this many lurkers and guests, to be able to tell the genuine, sound and valuable advice from the jokes, fake advice, and messing around stuff. Everyone messes around from time to time, of course, but those who do so regularly should be identified somehow to help scared and ignorant newbies realize that their words may not be true.

This site has been incredibly helpful to me...the best I've ever found. And, in addition to great advice, it's a wonderful place to hang out swapping stories and sharing opinions. To keep it that way for others, lots of work has to be done by the admin and mods...including ways to enforce the rules. It's a tough never ending job but someone has to do it.

Kudos to the Admin! Keep up the good work! :gj::clap:

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Originally Posted by wilomn

I was agreeing with melissa that I too am glad she's not a mod.

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Are you trying to incite me? Well, you're lucky it doesn't work; or you'd get infraction points! :rofl:

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Originally Posted by MelissaFlipski

Are you trying to incite me? Well, you're lucky it doesn't work; or you'd get infraction points! :rofl:

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Try this site, you and campos both. www.dictionary.com.

If by agreeing with what you state I am trying to incite you, then I think you and I use different definitions of the word incite, much as campos seems to use one definition of communism to himself and another non-understandable one to others.

Also, are you saying that if I had "incited" you, I'd get points for that?

If you're not on the team, not a mod, not an admin, how do you get to decide who gets points.

Good heavens, try to have a conversation and people run away, agree with someone else and she gets mad. What is going on here?

Madness, I tell ya, madness.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

Try this site, you and campos both. www.dictionary.com.

If by agreeing with what you state I am trying to incite you, then I think you and I use different definitions of the word incite, much as campos seems to use one definition of communism to himself and another non-understandable one to others.

Also, are you saying that if I had "incited" you, I'd get points for that?

If you're not on the team, not a mod, not an admin, how do you get to decide who gets points.

Good heavens, try to have a conversation and people run away, agree with someone else and she gets mad. What is going on here?

Madness, I tell ya, madness.

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Hey Wilomn... Take a chill pill, relax, have a drink or something...... You need to calm down man... You're getting all worked up over a disagreement and posting 3 paragraph responses looking for another disagreement. Besides, I dont like dictionary.com, I prefer to use the book.

It's all in fun man.... relax

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Originally Posted by MelissaFlipski

Bcampos and Wilomn, you are both looking like you're inciting each other. :colbert: I am GLAD I am not an admin or mod - making the infraction calls is going to be a tough one.



What are you agreeing with?

I was agreeing with melissa that I too am glad she's not a mod. Is that what you were agreeing with me on?

You're not exactly clear on what you try to say when you write your thoughts out.

Do you re-read what you write to see if it might not make sense to someone reading it who does not have access to the inner monologue you have going or do you just type and submit?

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Look at how much you are disecting my responses... I just put out a few things; all to have you try to tear it all apart. Because you are getting so mad and upset over it, I will not go back and forth with you point for point. With that: Hopefully your persistant questions will stop. I'm not being clear anymore because I don't want to you to ask any more critical questions, I feel that I should stop talking to you on this thread.

What am I agreeing with you ask?? Nothing at all, it was a vague runaround because I think we all have gone well beyond the initial topic of the new infraction system.

It was more of a light joke to ease the tention....

Remember-- It's all in the hips yeah, it's all in the hips....

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Originally Posted by bcampos

Hey Wilomn... Take a chill pill, relax, have a drink or something...... You need to calm down man... You're getting all worked up over a disagreement and posting 3 paragraph responses looking for another disagreement. Besides, I dont like dictionary.com, I prefer to use the book.

It's all in fun man.... relax

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Dude, if this is worked up then death must be next. My breathing is slow and even, pulse rate is low, barely paying attention at all.

I just found your comments interesting. Especially the fact that you seem to use words to not say what you mean and then you get all flustered when one of your confuzzled readers askes you for clarification.

I suppose if you don't want to clarify anything there are two obvious avenues open. One is to simply stop posting but I don't really see you doing that. The other is for you to post more concisely, actually using words that represent what you are trying to say instead of the concept of which you have poor, at best, grasp of. I see that as more likely, but not really effective since you don't really seem to care so much about whether or not a comment you make is understood so much as you do simply making the comment itself.

You still haven't explained how you relate communism to this site, despite the fact that I'm calmly and politely asked you to several times.

IF the ruling class, the mods and admins, work harder than the workers, we general members, how is that communist?

Break out the book, have a drink, fire up the synapses, and explain what you mean.

That or take you ball and go home again.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

Look at how much you are disecting my responses... I just put out a few things; all to have you try to tear it all apart. Because you are getting so mad and upset over it, I will not go back and forth with you point for point. With that: Hopefully your persistant questions will stop. I'm not being clear anymore because I don't want to you to ask any more critical questions, I feel that I should stop talking to you on this thread.

What am I agreeing with you ask?? Nothing at all, it was a vague runaround because I think we all have gone well beyond the initial topic of the new infraction system.

It was more of a light joke to ease the tention....

Remember-- It's all in the hips yeah, it's all in the hips....

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I got called to the mat for flapping my lips, didn't like it, couldn't take it, didn't know how to deal with it, so I took my ball and went home, which is what I'll do again if you guys keep being mean to me.

Now I understand. You post stuff just to get folks talking, not meaning to make any sense. Well, you've succeeded.

We're talking and you're not making any sense.

Good job there little buckeroo, good job.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

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I got called to the mat for flapping my lips, didn't like it, couldn't take it, didn't know how to deal with it, so I took my ball and went home, which is what I'll do again if you guys keep being mean to me.

Now I understand. You post stuff just to get folks talking, not meaning to make any sense. Well, you've succeeded.

We're talking and you're not making any sense.

Good job there little buckeroo, good job.

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Wow that's alot of typing there...

Besides, I am home, how can I go home if I am already home. And I have 2 snakes, not 1.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

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I got called to the mat for flapping my lips, didn't like it, couldn't take it, didn't know how to deal with it, so I took my ball and went home, which is what I'll do again if you guys keep being mean to me.

Now I understand. You post stuff just to get folks talking, not meaning to make any sense. Well, you've succeeded.

We're talking and you're not making any sense.

Good job there little buckeroo, good job.

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^^^^^^ is..

Bear-Baiting -- 5 pts
Poking a stick at someone you know is going to lose their temper. TRYING to get someone to lose their temper. Trying to pick a fight.

Just Saying! Mods???

gee bear biting sure sounds alot like pm i got from a user the other night actually this is the second one from the same user.

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Originally Posted by nixer

gee bear biting sure sounds alot like pm i got from a user the other night actually this is the second one from the same user.

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If you have PM's that you are concerned with, you may send it to any member of the staff to review.

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Originally Posted by bcampos

^^^^^^ is..

Bear-Baiting -- 5 pts
Poking a stick at someone you know is going to lose their temper. TRYING to get someone to lose their temper. Trying to pick a fight.

Just Saying! Mods???

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John, please let the staff manage the infraction system. :)

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Originally Posted by wilomn

John, please let the staff manage the infraction system. :)

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I would if, Never mind LOL!! You got it...:gj:

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Originally Posted by rabernet

If you have PM's that you are concerned with, you may send it to any member of the staff to review.

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i already did so last night!

so in all three of these pages i dont think i read what the numbers mean after.....

Infractions: blah? (blah?)

what are these?

infractions (point value)

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Originally Posted by bcampos

Wow that's alot of typing there...

Besides, I am home, how can I go home if I am already home. And I have 2 snakes, not 1.

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Another word you seem to have improper grasp of the actual meaning of. You see, above is, if my count is correct, an 80 word post.

I hardly think that qualifies as a lot. A LOT, using a very loose and unlooked up definition, would seem to be more than a few, far more than several, and way more than a bunch.

Heck, just on this site I've written posts that must be several hundred words and I'd hardly qualify them as being made up of a LOT of words. Of course, I am prone to verbiage so perhaps it's just me.

Still though, I think, once again, that you have misspoken yourself. You seem to make a habit of this and you may want to look into it. It leads to hoofinmouth disease and severe toeandtonsil trauma (from having your feet shoved so far into your oral orifice) which can be most distressing not only to you yourself but those to whom you speak.

I don't recall the number of snakes you have coming into question, but then I seem to be the only one who recalled that it was YOU who brought "text book" definitions into this thread.

What does, if you don't mind not answering yet another question, the number of snakes you have got to do with the communistic slant this site has, according to you only, taken of late.

Are you intentionally trying to confuse me?

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Originally Posted by wilomn

Another word you seem to have improper grasp of the actual meaning of. You see, above is, if my count is correct, an 80 word post.

I hardly think that qualifies as a lot. A LOT, using a very loose and unlooked up definition, would seem to be more than a few, far more than several, and way more than a bunch.

Heck, just on this site I've written posts that must be several hundred words and I'd hardly qualify them as being made up of a LOT of words. Of course, I am prone to verbiage so perhaps it's just me.

Still though, I think, once again, that you have misspoken yourself. You seem to make a habit of this and you may want to look into it. It leads to hoofinmouth disease and severe toeandtonsil trauma (from having your feet shoved so far into your oral orifice) which can be most distressing not only to you yourself but those to whom you speak.

I don't recall the number of snakes you have coming into question, but then I seem to be the only one who recalled that it was YOU who brought "text book" definitions into this thread.

What does, if you don't mind not answering yet another question, the number of snakes you have got to do with the communistic slant this site has, according to you only, taken of late.

Are you intentionally trying to confuse me?

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Nahh.. I'm done answering your questions.

If by communist he meant oppressive, cold war, russian mafia... No, I can't see it as being communist.

If by communist he meant, cookie cutter responses, punishment for free thinking, the ruling class puts down the little guy.... nah, don't see it as communist.

How does a structered environment with rules and checks to keep it family friendly get construed as communist and oppressive?

If it were communist and oppressive... would there be any bp.net?

Since everyone seems to be finished actually discussing the details of the Infraction System, it seems like it's time to close this thread. Thanks to those who continued to bump it to the top of the active threads list though...to make sure to bring it to the attention of all our members. :P

Seriously though...if anyone has any questions regarding the new system, or wishes to comment about it, the staff PM boxes are always available.