for all you spider owners out there...

yep the bottom one is a female.



the bright one on top is a male and came from adam,
8ballpythons. he still has the same bright colors like when he was a baby!


vaughn

Cool! Did the female come from Adam too? I just can't get over her looks! She's gorgeous!! How much does she weigh?

nope the female came from another breeder, she's just over 600 grams now!



vaughn

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nope the female came from another breeder, she's just over 600 grams now!



vaughn

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Who'd she come from? She's a looker for sure! Are you going to breed her next season if she gets up to size? She would make some great looking babies!

This guy is hard to take a picture of. Always moving...He has ADD just like Adam...

http://www.glassreptiles.com/pictures/2007/spider.jpg

Adam has the best spiders, EVER!:rockon: Adam!

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Adam has the best spiders, EVER!:rockon: Adam!

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Just for you shower shoe!! ;) :sweeet:

http://www.8ballpythons.com/uploads/spider-03280501.jpg

http://www.8ballpythons.com/uploads/spiders06.jpg

http://www.8ballpythons.com/uploads/bumbleBee.jpg

-adam

Great looking Spiders Adam! :D


Whats that odd one at the bottom. :P

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Just for you shower shoe!! ;) :sweeet:

-adam

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I'm a shower shoe now? lol.

thanks for the pictures...I love thoughs high white girls...Is that Daaangs spider in the top left hand corner?

thanks for the pics, Chaplin....:P

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Is that Daaangs spider in the top left hand corner?

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Nope. :D

-adam

First off, amazing spiders everyone!! Great pics..


Second...Heres some pics of ours..

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2.../IMG_96302.jpg

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...3/IMG_9340.jpg

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...3/IMG_8825.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...y12233/SP4.jpg

Wow... Great Spiders everyone !!! Rocky.... CRAZY WHITENESS there!! :sunny:

whatever that is that's curled up on top in the group shot....I LOVE IT!

mojave

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whatever that is that's curled up on top in the group shot....I LOVE IT!

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Lesser...Thankyou!

He has gotten MUCH better with every shed believe it or not....I'll get some updated pics of him next week...He just ate last night...

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Lesser...Thankyou!

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Wow It must just be the lighting all very hot snakes.

I'm looking to get one this season acctually.

I like a little bit more of a pattern, because I think that having a little bit more of a pattern on them makes prettier bee's, imho.

Also I like low white, as low as you can get.

I'll also be looking for the highlights around the pattern.

And NO head wobble. Thanks for the comments about it, I never realized it was a problem until now, I'll be watching to make sure I get one that it's as mild as can be in :)

Rocky I believe that's one of the whitest spiders I've ever seen.

I really want to get a mojave female now, since seeing that HOT photo of a spider x mojave cross.. that thing is on Fire!!

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Rocky I believe that's one of the whitest spiders I've ever seen.

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When I was looking to purchase a spider I was looking for a male...I saw her and didnt care...She was smokin!! Had to buy her.....Thankyou!

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Wow It must just be the lighting all very hot snakes.

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Yupp, it is...Ill get some better pics of him within the next 2, 3 days....maybe even today....In the mean time...Heres an older pic with somewhat better lighting...

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...3/IMG_0533.jpg

The brown has really lightened up with every shed...Like I said...More pics coming soon ;)

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Yupp, it is...Ill get some better pics of him within the next 2, 3 days....maybe even today....In the mean time...Heres an older pic with somewhat better lighting...

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...3/IMG_0533.jpg

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Thats what it was the lighting made it look really gray.. you can really see the difference in the two with your newer pic.

But at a glance your first one look like a real light Mojave.http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...3/IMG_8825.jpg

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...8/0/mojave.jpg

But thats hot hot hot lesser the are in my top five fav base morphs.

Spiders
Lessers
Mojave
Pied
Pinstrips

excuse my ignorance, but what IS a lesser?

beautiful :)

As for spiders after reading this I will avoid them. They really are pretty but the neurological component seems to me like something that should not be propagated. If the snakes could talk and tell me that they really don't mind the effect I would feel better. Until then I'll stick to other morphs :)

Too bad we don't have the tech yet to fix the genes. That would be sweeeeet.

On a related note some of my feelings have been influenced by my friend's daughter. She was born with genetic defects. She LOOKS AMAZING! Her hair is all different colors and her eyes are big and blue, her skin is milky white. Gorgeous. But unfortunately she has neurological problems that are also related to the chromosomal abnormality :( When I saw the discussion about spider genes it reminded me of her situation.

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excuse my ignorance, but what IS a lesser?

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lesser platinum is the full name for them a co/dom trait that the super form is the black eye lucy.

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beautiful :)

As for spiders after reading this I will avoid them. They really are pretty but the neurological component seems to me like something that should not be propagated. If the snakes could talk and tell me that they really don't mind the effect I would feel better. Until then I'll stick to other morphs :)

Too bad we don't have the tech yet to fix the genes. That would be sweeeeet.

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Please don't be put off by our spinning deal. Spiders are a great morph that'll find its way into many collections this year with prices getting more in the pet range. If you by from a good breeder you shouldn't worry. Yes all spiders do have little quirks but a good breeder will not sale you one that is a train wreck. :D :D :D . Just think of the little quirks as personality traits associated with spiders. :D :D :D

I plan on having 955 million of them they are one of my top five favs.

naw...not for me.


I have been accused of being overly-empathetic (I cry if someone punches a stuffed animal even!)
but I would always worry that the poor snake was feeling dizzy. Sure they cope with it and such, but I guess I assume the worst - vertigo is very unpleasant :(
I am assuming I know....but there's no way to prove or disprove what their experience is.
I will have to wait for the *talking* spider morph to come along and set my mind at ease before I will support the morph with my spending power :lol:

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naw...not for me.


I will have to wait for the *talking* spider morph to come along and set my mind at ease before I will support the morph with my spending power :lol:

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Thats the great thing with balls there is so much out there to chose from. Its hard to not find two or twelve morphs you like..So if for whatever reason spiders aren't for you... cool... there 100's of morphs out there your sure to fall in love with three or four.

As for the talking spider morph me and Cue have an under the table thing going thats looking promising for that... :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :D :D :D

:)

yeah, 5 years from now there will be threads like: "Are Het Albinos more prone to foul language?" and "Spiders are just sarcastic...that's how they are"
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yeah, 5 years from now there will be threads like: "Are Het Albinos more prone to foul language?" and "Spiders are just sarcastic...that's how they are"
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LOL only if me and Cue produce them... LOL :D

This is definitely one of the most informative threads ever..

But excuse me if I missed but I don`t think this was mentioned,
would the genetic defect ie.spinning/wobbling be passed down the spider line, do bumblebees exhibit the same characteristics?

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This is definitely one of the most informative threads ever..

But excuse me if I missed but I don`t think this was mentioned,
would the genetic defect ie.spinning/wobbling be passed down the spider line, do bumblebees exhibit the same characteristics?

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Yes. And even to normal sibs of spider to normal breedings.

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lesser platinum is the full name for them a co/dom trait that the super form is the black eye lucy.

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Actualy the super form is the Blue eyed lucy.

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Actualy the super form is the Blue eyed lucy.

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Check out the big brain on Justin! :rockon:

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Actualy the super form is the Blue eyed lucy.

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yea thats right there are so many different white snakes out there its hard to keep up sometimes.

LOL THANKS

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I plan on having 955 million of them they are one of my top five favs.

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that sure would be alot of snakes!!!! :eek: LOL!

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yea thats right there are so many different white snakes out there its hard to keep up sometimes.

LOL THANKS

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Well now I'll disagree with you there, Ed. There are so many "whitish" snakes out there. As far as I am concerned, there are only a couple truly "white" snakes. :D

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Oh be picky then :rolleyes:

Ok there are loads of "WHITEISH" snakes.... LOL

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Oh be picky then :rolleyes:

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That there are! :)

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I love spiders to me other than pieds and clowns the have the most "wow" factor with pattern and color. :D

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I would definitely have to agree with you there!!! I think my only other fav would be a lesser! I have become a true fan of them! They are just so pretty!

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Ever seen one in person.. They have this fall leaves than and gold color. I like them also just as a base morph.

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right.

No :( I have not seen one in person. yet....

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They are Hot hot hot.. And hold color like a mug. Stay pretty from hatch on.

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Even normal x normal can produce ball pythons that are 'tweaked'...

I've always speculated that there's a lot of normals out there that are "tweaked" as well...I've got one, that was my first snake, and I never thought anything was different about her until I started getting more...but so many of those animals do you think are the only snake in a casual hobbyist's collection, and those keepers just have no clue that anything is up. With a relatively expensive morph, on the other hand, every detail of thier color, pattern, and behavior is closely monitored, so of course spinning behavior will be noticed.

Just some food for thought....

Here's one sexy spider...piebald.;) Wouldn't mind one of those myself.

http://roussisreptiles.com/collectio...lls/spied.html

Those are all some really nice Spider I like them all ,but i like high white and low patterned Spiders. Like the Ones Adam has there and Rockys.I think they would make better Bee's...JMO :)

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...iteSpider2.jpg

ITS a GIRL

Greg VanZweden

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Here's one sexy spider...piebald.;) Wouldn't mind one of those myself.

http://roussisreptiles.com/collectio...lls/spied.html

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Don't get me wrong, that's awesome looking. But I'm not a huge fan of the SUPER high white pieds. I like when they have a really good mix of white to color, around 50/50 or at LEAST 25 color and 75 white

I'd love to see a pied spider that's closer to the 50/50 pattern :)

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I'd love to see a pied spider that's closer to the 50/50 pattern :)

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Not gonna happen. They produced two that did the exact same thing. Given the variability of pieds, I'd say the odds of making two identical patterned spider pieds are 1 in a billion. I'm pretty sure the word on the street was that the spider gene makes pieds all white like that.

I'm sure soon enough we'll see pinstripe pieds...those may have the 50/50 or more variable pattern like you're looking for.

It just goes to show how much combo potential the spiders have, they are still being plugged in to new projects.

hey guys I hate to redirect but check out the thoughts I threw out in my "bounce this around thread", should be good.

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http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...iteSpider2.jpg

ITS a GIRL

Greg VanZweden

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You got a sexy girl there yourself

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Those are all some really nice Spider I like them all ,but i like high white and low patterned Spiders. Like the Ones Adam has there and Rockys.I think they would make better Bee's...JMO :)

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...iteSpider2.jpg

ITS a GIRL

Greg VanZweden

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Wow great lookin girl.:sunny: