Yafe - Albino Carpet Progression Thread

Great news. I thought I would pass out from holding my breath that long [emoji6]

Very very happy for you guys and Yafe.


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That's decent news Dave to go to bed on,

fingers crossed he's turned that corner now and properly on the mend

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That sounds like great news, the piece of mind the vet brought today was worth it in my opinion. Husbandry is important and toot away. A bad situation but doing everything right is what Yafe needs sick or not. As keepers, we accepted that responsibility and need to live up to it. Weather that makes you dad of the year is out of my pay grade but hearing about a healthy animal is Good for credibility. I think offering advice on husbandry is best taken as leadership by example. That goes for everything.
Hope to hear a feeding story soon.

:w00t: That's my kind of "update"! zina10 wasn't the only one holding her breath...:pinkele: Happy Dance!

So glad to hear the good news! I’m too out of shape to hold my breath, but I’ve had everything crossed!

I am being hugely optimistic and spent the afternoon with Katie rearranging the reptile area in anticipation of Yafe's new digs coming in about a month.

I wanted to share the link in his thread as I fully expect him to heal completely and eat soon! POSITIVE THOUGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...73#post2651273

Thank you for looking.

Great news. I haven’t had much time to read everyone else’s replies I just search for yours. I’ll catch up when my season is over. I’m glad everything is working out, another great, responsible, caring reptile owner. Good job Bro!!!


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More good news.

Yafe's CBC (blood work) came back a few minutes ago. His white blood cell count is slightly elevated, but that's consistent with a healing RI. It is not high enough to suspect anything more serious going on such as a secondary, or other, active infection.

The vet maintains that the prognosis is good and to keep up the injections. He gets his 5th tonight and I will advise on how he looks, as I usually do.

That's some good news

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Yafe got his 5th injection tonight. He's doing as well, if not better, than he has since we got him.

He only wheezed when I held him down and restrained him for the injection. He still pops fairly regularly, but doesn't seem to need to open his mouth significantly, if at all, to breathe, and he is flicking is a tongue a lot more.

Below are two pictures of him tonight after the injection and two video links. One is a video right after the injection and the other is a minute later when I put him back in his enclosure.

Video right after injection: https://streamable.com/4km6q

Video of Yafe going back into his enclosure: https://streamable.com/p26s3

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Yafe got his 5th injection tonight. He's doing as well, if not better, than he has since we got him.

He only wheezed when I held him down and restrained him for the injection. He still pops fairly regularly, but doesn't seem to need to open his mouth significantly, if at all, to breathe, and he is flicking is a tongue a lot more.

Below are two pictures of him tonight after the injection and two video links. One is a video right after the injection and the other is a minute later when I put him back in his enclosure.

Video right after injection: https://streamable.com/4km6q

Video of Yafe going back into his enclosure: https://streamable.com/p26s3

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loved the vids. [emoji4] sorry i haven't posted much but ive definitely been following!!! he looks like he's doing much better, great job! [emoji3]

I'm so glad you've gotten some reassurance from the vet, as well as from Yafe's "happy tongue". :D It's so easy to over-think what you're seeing...recovery is
rarely as fast as we want or as the snake deserves.

Yafe refused the hopper I offered tonight. He can pretty easily eat a weaned mouse, but I wanted to offer something smaller.

Defrosted and then warmed up with hot water (like I do for all my snakes) and gently shook on the tongs. He showed no interest. If anything, he seemed eager to get away from it, and wanted nothing to do with it. I left it in there for a few minutes near him and he went the opposite direction and climbed back on his warm branch. About as far away from the prey as possible.

I am not looking into this at all. Would have been great if he had eaten, however, wasn't getting my hopes up.

He's still got an RI and has 5 injections left over the next two weeks of a medicine known to cause stomach issues. I just do not think he is ready or willing to eat yet.

I may offer again in a week or so, or just wait until he's done with the medicine and healthy again. Not sure.

Either way, I wanted to update everyone and let you know that he did not eat, but again, that's not a huge deal IMO.

I think it’s a good idea to periodically offer...you never know when he’ll decide today is the day I want a mouse. I equate the lack of feeding response to how we feel when we’re sick...we want to be warm, aren’t terribly hungry, and want to sleep...a lot. :sleep:

Yeah, not to worry...he probably feels a bit queasy from his medication, & can't fully smell food either. I wouldn't be surprised if it takes a week+ after being
done with his medication before it's out of his system enough that he feels like eating....but I'd have tried too! ;)

Honestly, I have a gut feeling that it may just be better he didn't eat just now.

Ever since I have read about digestion in a snake, and the effort their bodies have to put into it, I feel he is better off to put all his strength, energy and resources into healing and getting better.

Sure, we derive energy and strength from nutrition, but if a snakes body has to work so hard to disgest, he may just be better off to wait a bit longer.

What you don't need right now is to set off a cycle of regurgitation or a relapse.

After all, snakes do not loose weight all that quickly, but they sure regain it super fast once they start eating.

You tried, he said "no". No biggie :) He'll eat when he is ready and able.

I agree, no worries on the missed feeding D. I've got a good feeling that Yafe is going to be just fine really soon. He's getting lots of love and great care. Tell him I know a really pretty female he might want to meet when he's up to it. She enjoys perching, the outdoors, and f/t mice, rats, and chicks. :)

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Already trying to fix him up with a real hottie! :rofl: I think Yafe's enclosure needs a pin-up...?

Sorry for the late update, but Katie and I went to see Alanis Morissette at Mohegan Sun Arena at the Mohegan Sun Casino here in CT. We got home very late, and I was going to update tomorrow, but I can't sleep. On the plus side, I never win anything, but hit a $200 jackpot on a 1 cent slot machine (after losing $20 - my limit today was $40). I had been up to $220, but bet down to $200 even and called it a day. That net me (with the $20 lost) $180 which paid for the tickets and dinner at the casino.

My luck isn't the only luck that's changing. Yafe is doing significantly better.

Zero wheezing, even when being restrained for his injection today (6th injection). A few pops here and there, but not all the time at all. Also, the happiest tongue we've seen yet; active and all over the place. He's getting really curious, but we limited his "out time" to injection, water bowl cleaning, a quick spray of warm water to raise humidity a bit (the baseboard heat came on 3 days ago and it's been drying out, especially upstairs, where my office is and that's where Yafe's living at the movement), and a very quick video to show everyone how well he is doing.

For the first time since he's been sick, and 4 injections to go, I am getting pretty confident he will be okay.

Video link below and please excuse me for a) turning the iPhone while filming and thinking it would adjust the picture and b) being too tired to edit it.

Here's the video of Yafe after his injection and continuing to improve and look better every time we take him out for an injection: https://streamable.com/r7qjb

As always, thank you to everyone for their support. I will continue to update all the way through the full recovery and first feeding after. Then, I plan to start, yet another, Yafe Progression Thread, to follow up him for the rest of his healthy life.

Thats fine really good news about yafe and even better about that little win that about paid for the night
Nice when decent people get get some good luck [emoji4]


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I agree, no worries on the missed feeding D. I've got a good feeling that Yafe is going to be just fine really soon. He's getting lots of love and great care. Tell him I know a really pretty female he might want to meet when he's up to it. She enjoys perching, the outdoors, and f/t mice, rats, and chicks. :)

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El-Ziggy,

Beautiful animal! Yafe, when old enough, would probably be pretty happy to wrap that.

What kind of Carpet is she?

He's going to be on the smaller side. He's an Irian Jaya and Darwin Hybrid, with, I believe more Darwin in him than IJ (waiting for percentages from the breeder who's traveling right now). No albino IJ's so they cross breed with Darwin's to get albino hybrids that stay pretty small. IJ males rarely get over 5ft or so and male Darwins, about 6FT, so we expect him to get 5.5FT to 6FT or so depending on the amount of Darwin vs. IJ in him.

Also, if I recall, you are located pretty far away from CT (although I can't remember where off the top of my head). Either way, if you are ever in the neighborhood, you are welcome anytime. I am sure Yafe would be happy to meet a carpet python lover and someone who inspired me (as well as your animals) to get a carpet.

Take care and be well.

David

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Thats fine really good news about yafe and even better about that little win that about paid for the night
Nice when decent people get get some good luck [emoji4]


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Thanks Rich. Yeah, big improvement with Yafe, as you can see from the video.

It was nice to get a little luck for me and Katie tonight. We've been worried sick about Yafe, and between his two vet visits, and an emergency vet visit for one of the five dogs, who hurt his elbow (he's fine - a couple days of anti-inflammatory medication and he was back to new - but you can't be too careful when you have a pack), we are way behind this month on our pet budget.

All kidding aside, I'd spend more to know Yafe is going to be okay. Thankfully, it looks like I won't have to.

Also, I wouldn't rush to judgement on me certainly, but even Katie, being "decent people." You are just getting to know us! :):sarcasm::rolleye2:

More good news on Yafe. At the breeder, he was in a tub/rack. However, even in his quarantine tank, he has "branches" and will have even bigger and better ones when his Boaphile tank arrives.

Well, feeling a lot better, Yafe has discovered climbing and coiling! He's really learning how to Carpet Python!

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So now we know definitively what kind of noodle Yafe is....rotini! https://ball-pythons.net/forums/imag...xZ3EnFAj//2Q== ;)

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El-Ziggy,

Beautiful animal! Yafe, when old enough, would probably be pretty happy to wrap that.

What kind of Carpet is she?

He's going to be on the smaller side. He's an Irian Jaya and Darwin Hybrid, with, I believe more Darwin in him than IJ (waiting for percentages from the breeder who's traveling right now). No albino IJ's so they cross breed with Darwin's to get albino hybrids that stay pretty small. IJ males rarely get over 5ft or so and male Darwins, about 6FT, so we expect him to get 5.5FT to 6FT or so depending on the amount of Darwin vs. IJ in him.

Also, if I recall, you are located pretty far away from CT (although I can't remember where off the top of my head). Either way, if you are ever in the neighborhood, you are welcome anytime. I am sure Yafe would be happy to meet a carpet python lover and someone who inspired me (as well as your animals) to get a carpet.

Take care and be well.

David

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My girl is a hybrid/mutt Dave :). I believe she's Albino Darwin x Zebra JCP. Bill Stegall at Phoenix Reptiles produced her. I didn't care much about her genetics. I just though she was pretty. I expect her to top out around 5-6 ft also. It took her a while to start eating consistently but she's batting 1000 these days.
I'm down here in Atlanta. If I'm ever up in the NE I'll definitely look you up and if you're ever in my neck of the woods you're always welcome brother.
Yafe definitely looks like he's coming out of the woods now. He's going to be a great snake for y'all.

Yafe is so adorable on this "branch"... :)

Looks more like he's been learning to gtp, ,looks so cool wrapped the branch like that

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My girl is a hybrid/mutt Dave :). I believe she's Albino Darwin x Zebra JCP. Bill Stegall at Phoenix Reptiles produced her. I didn't care much about her genetics. I just though she was pretty. I expect her to top out around 5-6 ft also. It took her a while to start eating consistently but she's batting 1000 these days.
I'm down here in Atlanta. If I'm ever up in the NE I'll definitely look you up and if you're ever in my neck of the woods you're always welcome brother.
Yafe definitely looks like he's coming out of the woods now. He's going to be a great snake for y'all.

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Thanks Brother! Good to know it goes both ways.

I will be incredibly happy when Yafe starts eating, period. I know the medicine can cause stomach issues, and at this point, he's done with meds in 10 days, and then I'll give his stomach a week to settle down and also make sure symptoms stay away. Then I'll offer. I plan to feed small meals for the first few and then feed every 5-6 days, versus 7-10, for a month or so to get him caught up.

Yeah, your girl is stunning.

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Yafe is so adorable on this "branch"... :)

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Thank you. I can't wait to see him on the 4FT X 2.5" PVC Branches in the Boaphile tank arriving soon. That will be awesome, especially when he's a big guy.

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Looks more like he's been learning to gtp, ,looks so cool wrapped the branch like that

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LOL! Right? He knows what's up!

Thank you Rich.

I'll keep everyone in the loop. 7th injection is tomorrow.

Of course I had a dream/nightmare last night that I took him out and he was popping like crazy and wheezing again. Deep Breathes! Just a dream!

Had to update! I am ecstatic! 4 more injections to go, with the 7th tomorrow, and I look into Yafe's tank tonight and he peed. First, what a relief, he actually drank something! Phew!

Secondly, I wanted to change his water (changing and cleaning almost daily), check temps, add a little humidity, and F10SC the whole tank as there were still some mucus smears on the walls.

So, I took him out to clean the tank and move him into his little holding tank/enclosure. You know what? Not one pop, one wheeze, one uncomfortable movement. Just a chill little guy with a flicking tongue and being gentle as can be.

I thought to myself, "okay, I literally moved him from tank to enclosure, so, no stress on his body, therefore no popping and wheezing."

Well, I cleaned his tank, washed his bowl, let the F10SC sit for ten minutes (at a higher concentration than "normal" as well, but within safe range by a lot), wiped up the F10SC, put everything back, etc.

Then I went to check on Yafe in his little holding tank and to move him back. You know what? Still chill, and no popping or wheezing! Closed mouth breathing from clean nostrils, happy tongue flicks, and calm and deliberate movements.

So I took a quick video (link below). Then I figured I should take video while I pick him up and move him back to the tank (link below). I had him on my arm for 30 seconds while taking the video, and another 30 seconds after while putting him back in his tank (he was happy to stay on my arm for a bit - also a good sign), and still NO POPPING and NO WHEEZING!

I am so, incredibly, unbelievably, happy! He's turned the corner! I am now about 99% confident this will all be behind us after the last injection (10). I was about 75% two days ago when he got his 6th injection. I had thought, "maybe he will need a couple extra injections, don't get your hopes up!"

Very happy to share this with everyone here! If anything is different tomorrow, I'll update after his injection, but I think we are on the home stretch!

Video Link of Yafe chilling in his holding tank: https://streamable.com/8axno

Video Link of me picking Yafe up: https://streamable.com/9mhlg

Below are some pictures of his clean nostrils and beautiful face!

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Awesome news! I can tell from your post that you're practically bouncing off the walls, & who could blame you? First the shipping fiasco, then Yafe's horrible RI-
but with snarents like you & Katie, that poor little RI doesn't have a chance! ;) Good job!!!

He is gorgeous! And what a sweet little snake he is! Glad he is on the mend!

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Awesome news! I can tell from your post that you're practically bouncing off the walls, & who could blame you? First the shipping fiasco, then Yafe's horrible RI-
but with snarents like you & Katie, that poor little RI doesn't have a chance! ;) Good job!!!

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Lol... he was bouncing off the walls!!!

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Yale got his 7th injection tonight. I have good news and bad news.

First, the bad news.

He took a step or two backwards from yesterday.

He was definitely popping, but very quietly. I couldn't hear it unless his head was close to my ear. No open mouth breathing and one nostril was clear, but the other was all gunky. The vet had recommended that if still gunky, I could use a warm and moist Q-Tip to gently try to clear out some mucus. It was gross, but somewhat effective. He didn't mind too much either and we were very gentle (I held, Katie swabbed). I am hoping the popping was more a function of mucus clearing out and blocking his nostril, etc. than anything worsening.

He also wheezed a couple of times, but again, it was much quieter than before, and didn't seem to bother him too much. There was also zero discharge from his mouth or nose. Again, hoping it's just the last of the gunk and mucus breaking up.

I've been maintaining the humidity about 60% with temps 78F on the cool side, ambient about 82F, and two hot spots. The one on top of the branches is about 90F. The hide on the UTH is about 91F. There is a range on the branches from 83-90F.

Now, the good news.

There are 3 injections left after tonight. So there is definitely room to improve from those three, as well as from tonight's injection.

I am still very optimistic. However, I am also prepared to call the vet if he's not 100% by the last injection. She wants an update, and I will want to know what to do if he's not 100%.

Honestly, I am a little bummed, and was riding high yesterday, but overall, Yafe is definitely moving in the right direction. I am trying to focus on that.

I'll update if he needs to come out (bathroom cleanup etc.) before the next injection, otherwise, I'll advise Friday night/3 days.

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Yale got his 7th injection tonight. I have good news and bad news.

First, the bad news.

He took a step or two backwards from yesterday.

He was definitely popping, but very quietly. I couldn't hear it unless his head was close to my ear. No open mouth breathing and one nostril was clear, but the other was all gunky. The vet had recommended that if still gunky, I could use a warm and moist Q-Tip to gently try to clear out some mucus. It was gross, but somewhat effective. He didn't mind too much either and we were very gentle (I held, Katie swabbed). I am hoping the popping was more a function of mucus clearing out and blocking his nostril, etc. than anything worsening.

He also wheezed a couple of times, but again, it was much quieter than before, and didn't seem to bother him too much. There was also zero discharge from his mouth or nose. Again, hoping it's just the last of the gunk and mucus breaking up.

I've been maintaining the humidity about 60% with temps 78F on the cool side, ambient about 82F, and two hot spots. The one on top of the branches is about 90F. The hide on the UTH is about 91F. There is a range on the branches from 83-90F.

Now, the good news.

There are 3 injections left after tonight. So there is definitely room to improve from those three, as well as from tonight's injection.

I am still very optimistic. However, I am also prepared to call the vet if he's not 100% by the last injection. She wants an update, and I will want to know what to do if he's not 100%.

Honestly, I am a little bummed, and was riding high yesterday, but overall, Yafe is definitely moving in the right direction. I am trying to focus on that.

I'll update if he needs to come out (bathroom cleanup etc.) before the next injection, otherwise, I'll advise Friday night/3 days.

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I recently completed a 7-dose course of injectable antibiotics for my Beardie's RI. Prior to the injectables, we did a 14 days of baytril that did nothing. She's 14 years old so I was a bit worried that she just wouldn't be able to fight the infection.

It wasn't until the second to last injection that I felt she really turned the corner. The day after her last injection, she had a vet visit, and was given a clear bill of health.

Don't lose hope!

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I recently completed a 7-dose course of injectable antibiotics for my Beardie's RI. Prior to the injectables, we did a 14 days of baytril that did nothing. She's 14 years old so I was a bit worried that she just wouldn't be able to fight the infection.

It wasn't until the second to last injection that I felt she really turned the corner. The day after her last injection, she had a vet visit, and was given a clear bill of health.

Don't lose hope!

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Thank you! This is uplifting!

I will continue to be optimistic. I will also, as always, keep everyone in the loop!

Thank you alittleFREE! Much appreciated!

I know people aren't snakes and snakes aren't people.

But a upper respiratory infection is pretty similar in most animal species, incl. humans.

They never just go away in a week or two. Drainage continues for a good while. And a snake doesn't have nose spray and tissues. I would think it would be pretty normal to have dried mucus plugging up the nostrils and make breathing a bit harder at times. Esp. if it only happens occasionally now and isn't constant or getting worse.

I think overall things are progressing quite positive. Just hang in there..

Yafe got his 8th injection tonight and it went fine.

The entire time we had him out (4-5 minutes) we heard one or two pops and a small wheeze. Significant improvement from last time and as good as the day before the last injection where I was incredibly excited.

He gets his 9th injection on Monday, 10-29-18, and then his last injection 3 days later, on Thursday, 11-1-18. I will keep everyone in the loop as (hopefully) he continues to heal well. I am pleased with the progress, but also nervous with only two injections left. However, I am remembering what alittleFREE said about her Beardie. I am being patent. Nervous, but patient.

Yafe seemed to have a lot of energy today and was stronger in his movements, but deliberate, and calm.

Here is a Video Link to Yafe after his Injection tonight: https://streamable.com/558af


Here are two pictures:

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go, Yafe, go!!!

Fingers crossed for you

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Yafe got injection number nine tonight.

The injection went well and honestly, not to jinx anything, again, but he seems 100%. He wasn't flicking his tongue much tonight, but he was not popping, had no open mouth breathing, and zero wheezing, even when he was held down for his injection. He seemed to have more color to him, but maybe I am looking into things too much?

His last injection (#10) is Thursday evening (3 days from now) and expect symptoms to still be at bay. I will then wait a week, and if Yafe remains symptom free, which I assume he will, I will offer food again.

I am super happy right now, but curbing my enthusiasm until a week after the last injection, symptom free, and with food in his belly!

Video Link to Yafe after his 9th injection and symptom free: https://streamable.com/fhejd

Note: It looks like Yafe is shaking in the video. He is not. I am. My hands shake like crazy because of Prograf, one of my immune suppressants I take due to my kidney transplant (to help prevent rejection). That's why I hold and Katie injects.

Great news, taken cautiously but optimistically. :gj:

Nice, long time awaited but totally agree on the cautious optimism.

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Great news, taken cautiously but optimistically. :gj:

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Nice, long time awaited but totally agree on the cautious optimism.

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Yes. Very cautiously optimistic.

Not getting ahead of myself.

However, if next Thursday, he is symptom free, and has a mouse in his belly, we are going to party like it is the Cretaceous Period!

You betcha! :taz:

Well fingers crossed for you all



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More good news (I think) on Yafe.

Yafe spent the entire day curled up in his cool hide. He's explored his tank, but has not spent any noticeable time on the cool side since I got him. It's about 78F in the cool side.

My thought is that being sick, he really needed the warmth of the warm side and hot spot(s) to heal. Now that he appears to be feeling better, he can thermoregulate as he wishes. Again, just a thought, and I could be off base.

I'll update again Thursday evening (2 days) after his last injection, and over the week after, including feeding the following Thursday.

Seems like great logic, I know my snakes utilize both sides so that’s a big change for Yafe and must be a good indicator of health.

I sent the email below to both my vet and the vet I saw at Tufts who prescribed the Ceftazidime.

I see he is improving, but am still concerned he doesn't seem that he's healed yet.

Additionally, he's not flicking his tongue. That worries me. Tongue flicks = happy snake.



Yafe got his final injection (10th) of Ceftazidime tonight.

He has been improving overall, but although, at times, symptom free, he is not completely symptom free consistently.

When he got his last injection - 3 days ago, he seemed pretty good and made no audible pops or wheezes.

Tonight, there were some pops, but they were quiet.

He has not flicked his tongue since 3 injections ago. Not sure what that means, but it worries me.

Additionally, and seemingly unusual, he had some of the flailing again today. He seems to grip my arm, for example, and that makes him uncomfortable - the gripping (it's a strain?) and so he grips very tight ultimately, and seems to lose control of his upper body to some extent, and flails around. It's clearly not neurological, but from discomfort.

He hasn't done that in at least a week.

I am not sure if I should see where he is Sunday/Monday once this dose has had time to work, give him longer, or if we should plan to continue injections for longer.

I don't mean to scare you, but I've heard a lot about Nido Virus. Apparently it is far more wide spread then previously thought. Esp. since not all breeders are very forth coming with admitting it may be in their collection. Or they just don't test.
Esp. with Carpet Pythons..it wouldn't hurt to rule it out.
Here is one video that explains how to do the test from home

https://youtu.be/g6IzrBZSZqA


Another video


https://youtu.be/j2YMvgwrNDw


Again. Not tying to worry or scare you. But it may not be such a bad idea to run the test. Esp. since things haven't progressed the way they should have. At least you would know...or you could rule it out.


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That's a very helpful video, thanks zina10....& I think it's a good idea for Yafe too, considering he still has symptoms.

Dakski, the lack of a tongue flick can indicate there's a sticky infection of some sort going on, the same thing that causes the little popping noises as the
air tries to push thru. Tongue flicks aren't just a "happy snake" but the sign of a healthy snake too.
When it's harder to flick their tongue, they just don't do it. I'm glad you contacted your vets, but so sorry that it was necessary. C'mon Yafe, get well! :please: