Pixie the tanimbar scrub python

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Originally Posted by hilabeans

Yeah, at first I thought they were messing with me since I was asking them questions - like "ok lady, your snake's in the mail!". But after a few jokes back to them I realized they were seriously trying to mail me somebody's snake. When they mentioned Fiona, I knew it was you from your artwork. Too crazy! I told them you were responsible for bringing me to their site from a thread on this forum, but said I didn't think our relationship extended to you being cool with me getting your snake!

Good thing I wasn't some shady creep, though. Otherwise that could have been awful.

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Originally Posted by zina10

Holy cow, what a crazy story !!!

Poor Fiona, she would have been heart broken !! Been waiting so long on that lil russian dude !!!

A good thing you are such a honest person. Good things will come your way. Maybe a little russian one day, LOL.

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Seriously haha! I'd be pretty disappointed but just take it as fate doesn't want me to have a russian rat snake this year, since it would be the Zerkle's loss in the end. Hope this doesn't happen often with them LOL. :O
But YAY, I'M SO EXCITED for the little guy to arrive tomorrow morning!!

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Originally Posted by distaff

They are hard to find. Ken Foose briefly listed some on Kingsnake.com. I almost bought one. Opted for the Trans-pecos instead. Will check the Zerkle site just out of curiosity.

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Did he have those this year? Were they hatchlings or older ones?

Hmm... I just found out their Russian Rat Snakes were listed one week ago as $150 in their fb ad, but I was sold one for $175 when I asked directly for the price (before I found their facebook ad). LOL I hope that was an honest mistake and not trying to make a quick buck since I didn't see the ad earlier. :confusd:

May I ask how often you feed Miss Pixie? My little Tanimbar eats like a demon monster from hell! And every time, it's like he hasn't eaten in months. Then, a millisecond after he swallows, he hunts around for more. I've been told I should transition him from a 7-day to a 10-day feeding schedule, but I am curious as to what works best for you.

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Originally Posted by Team Slytherin

May I ask how often you feed Miss Pixie? My little Tanimbar eats like a demon monster from hell! And every time, it's like he hasn't eaten in months. Then, a millisecond after he swallows, he hunts around for more. I've been told I should transition him from a 7-day to a 10-day feeding schedule, but I am curious as to what works best for you.

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LOL same with mine, though I think being voracious eaters is sort of a trait of the species. I feed mine every 7-10 days on either weaned rats or two rat fuzzies, though I'm going to start her on smalls and see how she does. Back when she was a bit smaller and I fed her one large weaned every 7-10 days and it left a huge lump, she would calm down better after the meal. So I think upping their meal size would help.

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Originally Posted by redshepherd

Hmm... I just found out their Russian Rat Snakes were listed one week ago as $150 in their fb ad, but I was sold one for $175 when I asked for the price (before I found their facebook ad). LOL I hope that was an honest mistake and not trying to make a quick buck since I didn't see the ad earlier.

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I noticed that and was curious, but figured you maybe got a "special" one which would explain the up charge. I bet if you mentioned it they would refund you, if you wanted to pursue it.

Very excited for your special delivery!

incidentally, they let me know they should have 12 producing females next year, and are expecting normals, Het Melanistic , Het Albinos and possibly Albinos. For any others in the market.

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Originally Posted by hilabeans

I noticed that and was curious, but figured you maybe got a "special" one which would explain the up charge. I bet if you mentioned it they would refund you, if you wanted to pursue it.

Very excited for your special delivery!

incidentally, they let me know they should have 12 producing females next year, and are expecting normals, Het Melanistic , Het Albinos and possibly Albinos. For any others in the market.

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Nope, I was just told 175 for a normal! Yeah, just messaged them about it and I'm sure I will get the bit of a refund now that I actually noticed... :rolleyes:

Oh wonderful!! I know missterdog really wanted one later on too.

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Originally Posted by redshepherd

Nope, I was just told 175 for a normal! Yeah, just messaged them about it and I'm sure I will get the bit of a refund now that I actually noticed... :rolleyes:

Oh wonderful!! I know missterdog really wanted one later on too.

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I certainly do! I'm hoping they will have melanistic at some point rather than het melanistic, so slight bummer they won't have any next year lol. But I wonder if that suggests the following year they are planning for melanistic :O

I have hopes lol

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Originally Posted by zina10

A good thing you are such a honest person. Good things will come your way. Maybe a little russian one day, LOL.

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YAY! Karma snek!

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Originally Posted by MissterDog

I certainly do! I'm hoping they will have melanistic at some point rather than het melanistic, so slight bummer they won't have any next year lol. But I wonder if that suggests the following year they are planning for melanistic :O

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Oh gosh, the melanistic ones are such stunners. I can see why you're holding out. I'm super partial to the normals, so the plans are boding well so far. :)

(about the russian rat snake lol) Amy informed me that "Rob changed the pricing and didn't tell me", and she apologized and refunded me the difference. Sort of makes me wonder lol, since that "price change" he did was only toward me. But no matter. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by redshepherd

(about the russian rat snake lol) Amy informed me that "Rob changed the pricing and didn't tell me", and she apologized and refunded me the difference. Sort of makes me wonder lol, since that "price change" he did was only toward me. But no matter. :rolleyes:

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Well, It may have simply been that Rob changed the price on the facebook post (as a special) and forgot to tell his wife he lowered it. Early this year when I asked about them, they told me $175.

I don't think they tried to get a extra $25 out of someone. They have such a good reputation, and that amount of money wouldn't really be worth tarnishing it over ?

Just wondering...


SOOO , where is the new baby ???

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Originally Posted by zina10

Well, It may have simply been that Rob changed the price on the facebook post (as a special) and forgot to tell his wife he lowered it. Early this year when I asked about them, they told me $175.

I don't think they tried to get a extra $25 out of someone. They have such a good reputation, and that amount of money wouldn't really be worth tarnishing it over ?

Just wondering...


SOOO , where is the new baby ???

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Ah that's helpful to know they did say 175 earlier this year. I still am not sure what happened LOL. Yeah, I also don't think $25 is worth tarnishing their good rep, so I thought it was strange. It's funny, when I had asked earlier this year, they told me 125 LOL

And here he is!! :) https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...-(progression)

Thought I'd post pics of Pixie in shed. She darkens a lot, becoming more like dark brown instead of her usual light greyish-brown! Pretty interesting. She also mellows out a lot when in shed, and I can stick my camera in her face to take pics without getting bitten, as you can see. :rofl:she sort of just rolls away and hides her head. So unbecoming. lol

I also noticed she's grown a lot since I got her. Makes me worry she might grow bigger than anticipated.

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Peeking out at me from behind a leaf :rolleyes:

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Man, the eyes on that girl are killer! She’s getting big, too.

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Originally Posted by Team Slytherin

Man, the eyes on that girl are killer! She’s getting big, too.

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Yeah! I love scrubs eyes. She really did get a LOT bigger than when I got her.

She is sooo gorgeous!

I took her out since she was in a fair mood today, and it was swell. I can tell she was still deciding every once in awhile whether to bite me or not, so I have to move veeeery slowly to calm her back down. Unfortunately, she's always moving around and the lighting in the reptile room isn't great. Crappy photos!!

I'm only just realizing more how much she has grown since I first got her, only a little over half a year ago. I sort of underestimated her size LOL, I think I will need to buy her a new cage eventually! She used to be able to fit perfectly under a SMALL size reptilebasics hide! Now she nearly fills up a medium hide.

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I haven't updated Pixie's thread in half a year, so here! She's 4.5~5 feet now, but her head is still the size of my thumb. Maybe barely wider than my thumb at the widest point. But she is loooong relative to her head size LOL, her tail making up a huge part of the length.

Today's also feeding day, so I might have a feeding video later, assuming she acts exciting!

And she is feistier and quick to bite, the older she grows haha. She's purely a display snake and I only take her out with a hook if I need to clean her enclosure.

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Missed all of these. Love it ❤️ keep it coming.

Yesssssssss, she’s looking awesome!


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Gosh, I would love to own a scrub someday. Does anyone know the various scrub localities (with scientific name) offhand? In Florida, I believe 2 scrub species are on the conditional species list, but that suggests the others are okay.

Yours is BEAUTIFUL! Keep the photos coming!

Oh that's a shame Redshepherd that she won't let you handle her. Are all scrub pythons this way?
She's beautiful by the way! :bow:

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Originally Posted by RickyNY

Oh that's a shame Redshepherd that she won't let you handle her. Are all scrub pythons this way?
She's beautiful by the way! :bow:

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Not all, there are the rare docile scrubs out there. But for the most part, they have a reputation for being defensive and quick to bite LOL.

thanks!!

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Originally Posted by PiperPython

Gosh, I would love to own a scrub someday. Does anyone know the various scrub localities (with scientific name) offhand? In Florida, I believe 2 scrub species are on the conditional species list, but that suggests the others are okay.

Yours is BEAUTIFUL! Keep the photos coming!

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Well, not off hand, but this thread is very helpful! Pretend someone on this forum wrote it haha
http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/forum.../topics/610758

She thought it was food time, but then I opened her cage to take pics and it took her by surprise. So she just sat there like this in silence.

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This weirdo also decided that burying her head under these leaves is a good idea. She attempted it twice- but the first time, I interrupted her apparently, and she whipped her head back out. The second time is these pics, where she decided to poke her head out the other end after realizing I was there! I have honestly zero idea what she is doing. LOL
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Gosh, I would love to own a scrub someday. Does anyone know the various scrub localities (with scientific name) offhand? In Florida, I believe 2 scrub species are on the conditional species list, but that suggests the others are okay.

Yours is BEAUTIFUL! Keep the photos coming!

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Scrub pythons are currently divided into 5 closely related subspecies. We still have much to learn about them, as they were reclassified from Morelia to Simalia as recently as 2014, I believe? Feel free to correct any info, friends. As a fellow Simalia Nauta keeper (lover), I am still learning as well! Prior to 2000, the 5 currently recognized sub-species of scrub python were all classified under Morelia Amethistina

Simalia Tracyae - Halmahera scrub python from Halmahera Island. (this one is on my very-much-want list!)

Simalia Clastolepis - Moluccan scrub python from the Moluccan Islands

Simalia Kinghorni - native to Australia, this is the "scrub python" most people think of. It is the largest of the scrubs and restricted from export. I highly doubt anyone outside a zoological society has this species in captivity.

Simalia Nauta - Tanimbar scrub python from the Tanimbar Islands.

Simalia Amethistina - It is likely that this classification will be further broken down in the coming years. For now, there are basically 3 "races" of amethistina: the northern barnecks, southerns (Merauke), and those of the Central Highlands. Like GTP's, when referring to an amethistina, the locality is also named. (i.e. Biak, Sorong, Wamena, Kofiau)

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Originally Posted by Team Slytherin

Scrub pythons are currently divided into 5 closely related subspecies. We still have much to learn about them, as they were reclassified from Morelia to Simalia as recently as 2014, I believe? Feel free to correct any info, friends. As a fellow Simalia Nauta keeper (lover), I am still learning as well! Prior to 2000, the 5 currently recognized sub-species of scrub python were all classified under Morelia Amethistina

Simalia Tracyae - Halmahera scrub python from Halmahera Island. (this one is on my very-much-want list!)

Simalia Clastolepis - Moluccan scrub python from the Moluccan Islands

Simalia Kinghorni - native to Australia, this is the "scrub python" most people think of. It is the largest of the scrubs and restricted from export. I highly doubt anyone outside a zoological society has this species in captivity.

Simalia Nauta - Tanimbar scrub python from the Tanimbar Islands.

Simalia Amethistina - It is likely that this classification will be further broken down in the coming years. For now, there are basically 3 "races" of amethistina: the northern barnecks, southerns (Merauke), and those of the Central Highlands. Like GTP's, when referring to an amethistina, the locality is also named. (i.e. Biak, Sorong, Wamena, Kofiau)

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Yeah! This info is worded in the link I posted, and whoever wrote it added pictures and descriptions too which is super helpful.

http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/forum.../topics/610758

Lol i've had my snakes do the same with just sitting there with only their head in the hide and the rest of them stretched out in the open. I just look at them and think 'you know, if you were in the wild, you would be dinner for some bird lol'

And for the next pic, i want to see you kiss that scrubby on the top of his head like you see those snake charmers do with cobras :D:blowkiss:

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Lol i've had my snakes do the same with just sitting there with only their head in the hide and the rest of them stretched out in the open. I just look at them and think 'you know, if you were in the wild, you would be dinner for some bird lol'

And for the next pic, i want to see you kiss that scrubby on the top of his head like you see those snake charmers do with cobras :D:blowkiss:

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LOL I seriously swear sometimes that ALL of my snakes would be dinner for some bird or whatever if they were out in the wild, including the gtp. Maybe except for Drizzle, because she's so wary and fast at zipping back into hiding 24/7. We have the ones that get picked off early :rofl:

aahahah yeah, I can't wait to get some luscious blood red lips, just like a celeb! :O

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Originally Posted by redshepherd

Yeah! This info is worded in the link I posted, and whoever wrote it added pictures and descriptions too which is super helpful.

http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/forum.../topics/610758

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Hahaha, I saw that right after I finished! A super informative post. I am totally obsessed with scrubbies now and have been keeping eyes out for another one. I’ll give it a little time, so I can practice dealing with Apophis when he’s bigger...since it’s likely I wouldn’t get so lucky a second time.

But man, they are fantastic beasts! I’d love to get my hands on a Wamena or Halm if I can find one....even another Nauta would be cool. One came up on kingsnake the other day and was snatched within 12 hours!

But then, on days when Apophis is feeling sassy, I always think, “you’re lucky he’s not 15 feet long.”


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Sometimes, I think I want to take Pixie out to handle and take some outdoor photos. And then I remember that nah, she bites me completely unpredictably and without any defensive body language or warning. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ crazy snake

Most snakes are pretty obvious when they're warning you off or feeling nervous, but Pixie is just like, "La dee da... gently slithering along your arm.... looking relaxed... hmmm.... *SUDDENLY TURNS HEAD DOWNWARD AND CHOMPS*"

That's Pixie. :confusd::bow: She's pulled that a few times on me. So I opt for only taking enclosure pics now. LOL

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Thats because you need to show the snake whos boss!! When it chomps your arm, you chomp its tail!! After a few of those, the snake will learn.....'if i bite this warm tree, i get a painful sensation on my rear end' :D

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Thats because you need to show the snake whos boss!! When it chomps your arm, you chomp its tail!! After a few of those, the snake will learn.....'if i bite this warm tree, i get a painful sensation on my rear end' :D

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But I was told to alpha roll the snake to show her I'm alpha! :O

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Originally Posted by redshepherd

Sometimes, I think I want to take Pixie out to handle and take some outdoor photos. And then I remember that nah, she bites me completely unpredictably and without any defensive body language or warning. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ crazy snake

Most snakes are pretty obvious when they're warning you off or feeling nervous, but Pixie is just like, "La dee da... gently slithering along your arm.... looking relaxed... hmmm.... *SUDDENLY TURNS HEAD DOWNWARD AND CHOMPS*"

That's Pixie. :confusd::bow: She's pulled that a few times on me. So I opt for only taking enclosure pics now. LOL

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She’s stunning.

Keep working with her.

You have a somewhat rare captive there and I want to see you fully enjoy her.

Come on Red, you're keeping what I call an advance snake. A bite here and there won't kill ya! ;):P

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Originally Posted by RickyNY

Come on Red, you're keeping what I call an advance snake. A bite here and there won't kill ya! ;):P

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Haha, a bite from that snake might! Makes a bite from nearly anything else feel like a feather slap [emoji23]

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Skull of an Oksibil scrub python [emoji6] Imagine a baby dragon that is super fast, super alert, cage aggressive to the extreme, and grabby as hell.


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Originally Posted by Gio

She’s stunning.

Keep working with her.

You have a somewhat rare captive there and I want to see you fully enjoy her.

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Originally Posted by RickyNY

Come on Red, you're keeping what I call an advance snake. A bite here and there won't kill ya! ;):P

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She clearly doesn't enjoy coming out, so it doesn't make any difference to her. She loves her cage. Even when I take her out to handle and move across the room, she would stretch out super long trying to beeline it back into her enclosure! Me taking her out would only be for my own amusement

And I'd honestly rather not have wounds all over my hands and arms. Maybe if I wanted to look really masculine. LOL

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Originally Posted by Team Slytherin

Haha, a bite from that snake might! Makes a bite from nearly anything else feel like a feather slap [emoji23]

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Yeah, her bites hurt more than I expect from such a small looking head! Pixie is 5 feet right now. I guess at least I'd still rather be bitten by a tanimbar than my green tree python though.

Haha was going to say, I'd probably take a bite from that scrub over the GTP. Them and ETBs have some seriously scary teeth. I;m waiting to get tagged by Pat but so far, so good. I reach in next to him during the day and change his water and he usually wakes up, turns to look at my hand and flicks his tongue and inches towards it and then either sits there or turns around and goes back to sleep.

And having wounds all over your hands and arms might make you look like a goth emo, that wouldnt be good...well unless you are a goth emo lol.

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Haha was going to say, I'd probably take a bite from that scrub over the GTP. Them and ETBs have some seriously scary teeth. I;m waiting to get tagged by Pat but so far, so good. I reach in next to him during the day and change his water and he usually wakes up, turns to look at my hand and flicks his tongue and inches towards it and then either sits there or turns around and goes back to sleep.

And having wounds all over your hands and arms might make you look like a goth emo, that wouldnt be good...well unless you are a goth emo lol.

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Seriously, those thick GTP and ETB heads have some long teeth in them! Particularly ETB, which is actually the sole reason why I got a GTP over an ETB. haha

Aw Pat's cute! That's swell! Gem also has never struck defensively while on her perch. She just watches cautiously while I'm going about my business cleaning her enclosure or whatever. Or she just stays asleep and doesn't move. Such a blob.

I'm not goth or emo, so that also means I should avoid handling Pixie for kicks. Sigh. LOL

Lol they are blobs. i call them GTPs 'BPs on a stick' :D Only time Pat gets active is when he has to poop or wants dinner haha.

I thought I'd take some pics of what Pixie usually does when I'm cleaning out her cage. She's so long and refuses to let go of her branch without stressing her out, so I just put the whole branch somewhere. LOL

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Before cleaning... I still tried to put her in another box in preparation for cleaning, but she beelined it back into her enclosure. :rolleyes:
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And her new digs! I revamped her enclosure design a bit.
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Pixie is looking as lovely as ever Red..

Maaaan, she’s so freaking beautiful it’s making me itch for another one!!!😭😭

How iridescent she is in shed! It shows up extra well. (Of course I still boosted the colors a bit to make it EVEN prettier :P )

Random thought, but multiple people online have assumed she's a white lipped python LOL. Us snake keepers know they look nothing alike besides having some iridescence, but it makes me laugh how I kept itching on and off about getting a white lipped for the past 3 years, and then here she is anyway, confusing the internet.

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How iridescent she is in shed! It shows up extra well. (Of course I still boosted the colors a bit to make it EVEN prettier :P )

Random thought, but multiple people online have assumed she's a white lipped python LOL. Us snake keepers know they look nothing alike besides having some iridescence, but it makes me laugh how I kept itching on and off about getting a white lipped for the past 3 years, and then here she is anyway, confusing the internet.

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She looks sensational!

What a cool little snake, although she's getting bigger so maybe we're passed the "little" stage.

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Originally Posted by Gio

She looks sensational!

What a cool little snake, although she's getting bigger so maybe we're passed the "little" stage.

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thanks!
I can barely tell how much she grew since I see her every day, although she grew A LOT since I got her. She used to fit snugly under a small size reptilebasics hide, and now she's too big to fit under a medium one :O

Pixie just displayed some very neat behavior!

I opened her cage door a crack (sliding glass doors) with her sitting on sort of the opposite side of the enclosure. My hands and everything were still outside the enclosure. Within a second, she shot across the cage with her mouth open and then made a distinct U-turn around the crack in the door to bite at me on the outside!

Most snakes would just strike at the glass like a buncha morons. She's my only snake that obviously comprehends glass barriers AND clearly learned the exact location the sliding doors open. That she needs to strike AROUND the glass to bite at something outside shows a level of intelligence beyond my other snakes, and it's really interesting! I don't think I've seen a snake do a U-turn strike before either. I wish I had it recorded, but Pixie's unpredictable behaviors surprise me every day lol

Also quick reaction time, because I had only just opened the sliding door for a second LOL.

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Anyway, here's a pic from yesterday :P

Clever girl

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Originally Posted by redshepherd

Pixie just displayed some very neat behavior!

I opened her cage door a crack (sliding glass doors) with her sitting on sort of the opposite side of the enclosure. My hands and everything were still outside the enclosure. Within a second, she shot across the cage with her mouth open and then made a distinct U-turn around the crack in the door to bite at me on the outside!

Most snakes would just strike at the glass like a buncha morons. She's my only snake that obviously comprehends glass barriers AND clearly learned the exact location the sliding doors open. That she needs to strike AROUND the glass to bite at something outside shows a level of intelligence beyond my other snakes, and it's really interesting! I don't think I've seen a snake do a U-turn strike before either. I wish I had it recorded, but Pixie's unpredictable behaviors surprise me every day lol

Also quick reaction time, because I had only just opened the sliding door for a second LOL.

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Anyway, here's a pic from yesterday :P

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I'm digging that head shape. She's really starting to grow up!

Ugh, Pixie is perfect. I need a scrub in my life. Very interesting to read about that behavior, I guess most of my snakes aren't very intelligent. :D

Also, does her shed have iridescence in it? I looked at my white-lipped python's shed and the head portion had noticeable iridescence in it - it was pretty cool to see.