This is my Bredli. There are many like it...

*** Update on the lineage. Upon further inspection, I do believe Alpha comes from this lineage based on his labeling. Which means, yes, Price and Lazik line and het Stonewashed.

Also, I weighed him tonight on an analog kitchen scale. He is roughly 145 grams, 2.5' long, 1.5 years old (8/30/2015 birth).

That's our official starting point!

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You're off to a great start Rock. Kudos to you for facing and conquering fear. You picked an exceptional animal with really good genes. Alpha is gonna grow quickly now that he's on a more frequent feeding schedule. I love the name btw! ;)

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Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy

You're off to a great start Rock. Kudos to you for facing and conquering fear. You picked an exceptional animal with really good genes. Alpha is gonna grow quickly now that he's on a more frequent feeding schedule. I love the name btw! ;)

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Thank you very much, Zig. I appreciate all of your help. Happy you have a great one as well that I can watch grow and I'm glad I have an official starting point for Alpha's progress.

Hopefully I keep him feeding properly and this becomes a great year of growth for him. Looking forward to getting him into a permanent display!

He took a rat pup tonight! Very happy.

The rat looked huge when I dropped him in, like a bear :taz:, seriously, so I was a bit nervous about the outcome. No sweat.

That's awesome Rock! I wouldn't ever offer him another mouse. Or at least not until he has a really strong imprint on rats. I wouldn't worry about rat pups with your guy at all. Carpets can take some pretty large meals. :)

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Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy

That's awesome Rock! I wouldn't ever offer him another mouse. Or at least not until he has a really strong imprint on rats. I wouldn't worry about rat pups with your guy at all. Carpets can take some pretty large meals. :)

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I agree! I decided to make an educated guess and go for the rat pup on this second feeding instead of waiting for the next. Glad I did and I won't go back. I replayed the video to make sure. No hesitation, total focus on his part.

Carpets can take large meals. Carpets are awesome!

Time for an update...

p.s. Excuse the shirt, I was working in the yard tonight trying to get my grass green.

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Originally Posted by rock

Time for an update...

p.s. Excuse the shirt, I was working in the yard tonight trying to get my grass green.

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Just a beautiful snake.

You made a great choice!

Thank you, Gio. You and Zig and several others on this forum deserve direct credit for helping me make the right choice. I am very happy indeed. If I only end up with three I am completely satisfied.

Although, there was this baby red Biak GTP at the snake shop last week and Nick's 2017s will be coming out soon... Just saying. :D

Oh wow!!!

Look at that Beauty. Looks a lot bigger then I remember it, haha !

A GTP, huh? I love them, too :) You have excellent taste.

Congrats on your awesome newcomer! :)

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Originally Posted by zina10

Oh wow!!!

Look at that Beauty. Looks a lot bigger then I remember it, haha !

A GTP, huh? I love them, too :) You have excellent taste.

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Thank you, Z! Yes, he's quite handsome to look at. He's definitely grown and he looks even bigger in person. lol

GTP, I know. What's not to love? Have you had one? Wondering how I can make this happen now that the gloves are off with my Bredli!

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Originally Posted by Reinz

Congrats on your awesome newcomer! :)

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Thank you, Reinz! You have some fantastic snakes. You pics and posts helped me decide that any Carpet Python was going to be my next pick! My Bredli just ended up being number 1. :)

Nice to see you two getting better acquainted Rock. A few good meals always helps to break the ice :). We both owe Reinz a big thank you. It was the pics of his coastals that inspired me to get one.

From what I understand carpets are a lot more busy and entertaining than GTPs.

Don't get me wrong they, GTPs are beautiful but if you love your Bredli, a nice Brisy coastal will be wonderful.

Just do it!!

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Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy

Nice to see you two getting better acquainted Rock. A few good meals always helps to break the ice :). We both owe Reinz a big thank you. It was the pics of his coastals that inspired me to get one.

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Thanks, bud. I gave him a day off and yesterday he picked right back up where we left off. I knew I was ready too.

Tonight I fed him another rat pup. Good to see him maintain his schedule. He was moving around comfortably afterwards so I will get his weight again next week and decide if I go up in size or not.

Yes, Reinz has done a great job documenting his coastals. Your pics of your Bredli helped solidify my choice!

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Thanks, bud. I gave him a day off and yesterday he picked right back up where we left off. I knew I was ready too.

Tonight I fed him another rat pup. Good to see him maintain his schedule. He was moving around comfortably afterwards so I will get his weight again next week and decide if I go up in size or not.

Yes, Reinz has done a great job documenting his coastals. Your pics of your Bredli helped solidify my choice!

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I think you got me mixed up. I don't have a Bredli.

Just a mutt coasty.
Jewel.
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I am trying to get you to score a Brisbane coastal from Nick so I can live vicariously through you LOL!

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Originally Posted by rock

Thank you, Z! Yes, he's quite handsome to look at. He's definitely grown and he looks even bigger in person. lol

GTP, I know. What's not to love? Have you had one? Wondering how I can make this happen now that the gloves are off with my Bredli!

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I have had 2 GTP's !!

And they are anything but boring :)

I was fortunate enough to be able to pick mine up in person at "Ophiological Services" in Florida. Back when the Bessettes still had mostly GTP's. Their facility was simply amazing. So clean you could eat off the floor. Beautiful setups. And a LOT of little GTP hatchlings.

They made me clean all the hatchling GTP's tubs. hahaha!!! Great way to pick out your favorite. That is where I got my first bite!! Funny enough out of those many hatchlings, only one snapped at me. Of course it didn't hurt. They are truly TEEEENY tiny!!

I was only going to get one, but I couldn't decide between a canary yellow one and a deep burgundy red one, so I got them both. They are so much fun to observe. They do not hide. They are draped over a branch and are stunning to look at. In the evening they "hunt".

To watch the babies change colors from the yellow/red to green is amazing.

Both of mine were 100% tame from the get go. Easy to handle. You just have to be extremely careful with the little ones, oh so fragile! You don't just pick them off of a branch. Rather what you do is put your hand sideways (as if you were to ask a bird to "step up") and then use your hand as a branch. You come from underneath and gently nudge the GTP from the branch onto your hand, replacing the branch with your hand. They will then loosen their coils and let you move your hand in between, while they will also start moving onto your hand.

Removable branches are a must, makes maintenance so easy.

Never ever EVER reach into the enclosure in the evening/at night. Its sort of funny. You stand in front of their enclosure and they just "sit there". Then you blink and they are closer. Then you blink and they are right there, on the other side of the glass.

I didn't handle mine as much as the Ball Pythons, but when I did, they were not difficult to handle at all. Not as fast or flighty as some snakes can be. They do have long teeth (to be able to catch birds and bite through feathers) but mine never bit me so I can't tell you how bad it would be. For people enjoying "display" cages and living art, they are a must!

But then, so are many others ;)

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Originally Posted by Gio

I think you got me mixed up. I don't have a Bredli.

Just a mutt coasty.
Jewel.
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I am trying to get you to score a Brisbane coastal from Nick so I can live vicariously through you LOL!

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No, I know. What's funny is that the quote you have is from me writing back to Ziggy. But I did write back to you right after about the GTP and Brisy. I wonder if you saw that because it is now not showing in the thread. Strange, I did switch from the phone to the computer so perhaps it didn't stick but the quote you have is definitely a response to Zig.

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Originally Posted by Gio

From what I understand carpets are a lot more busy and entertaining than GTPs.

Don't get me wrong they, GTPs are beautiful but if you love your Bredli, a nice Brisy coastal will be wonderful.

Just do it!!

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Alright, second attempt, this was basically my first response to you:

I agree, a Brisy would be the logical next choice. Last week at the reptile shop there was a green GTP adult that had my wife walking backwards. They seem to have that "don't mess with me look" even while hanging motionless.

If Nick has his 2016s around much longer I might have to pick one up. Definite locks for 3m beauties!

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Originally Posted by zina10

I have had 2 GTP's !!

And they are anything but boring :)

I was fortunate enough to be able to pick mine up in person at "Ophiological Services" in Florida. Back when the Bessettes still had mostly GTP's. Their facility was simply amazing. So clean you could eat off the floor. Beautiful setups. And a LOT of little GTP hatchlings.

They made me clean all the hatchling GTP's tubs. hahaha!!! Great way to pick out your favorite. That is where I got my first bite!! Funny enough out of those many hatchlings, only one snapped at me. Of course it didn't hurt. They are truly TEEEENY tiny!!

I was only going to get one, but I couldn't decide between a canary yellow one and a deep burgundy red one, so I got them both. They are so much fun to observe. They do not hide. They are draped over a branch and are stunning to look at. In the evening they "hunt".

To watch the babies change colors from the yellow/red to green is amazing.

Both of mine were 100% tame from the get go. Easy to handle. You just have to be extremely careful with the little ones, oh so fragile! You don't just pick them off of a branch. Rather what you do is put your hand sideways (as if you were to ask a bird to "step up") and then use your hand as a branch. You come from underneath and gently nudge the GTP from the branch onto your hand, replacing the branch with your hand. They will then loosen their coils and let you move your hand in between, while they will also start moving onto your hand.

Removable branches are a must, makes maintenance so easy.

Never ever EVER reach into the enclosure in the evening/at night. Its sort of funny. You stand in front of their enclosure and they just "sit there". Then you blink and they are closer. Then you blink and they are right there, on the other side of the glass.

I didn't handle mine as much as the Ball Pythons, but when I did, they were not difficult to handle at all. Not as fast or flighty as some snakes can be. They do have long teeth (to be able to catch birds and bite through feathers) but mine never bit me so I can't tell you how bad it would be. For people enjoying "display" cages and living art, they are a must!

But then, so are many others ;)

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Wow, great explanation and write up. Now I want one even more. I have seen pictures, of course, but to see this little red Biak in person, it just stopped me in my tracks. Just amazing looking. Hard to believe, really. And, yes, very small and delicate looking at this point.

The first time I saw the adult green GTP, same thing. Just in awe.

I like the, "blink and they are closer". Sounds like a great arboreal snake. You are lucky to have had so many. I'll just have to compile my list for now and appreciate them from afar. Unless, of course, I have a moment of weakness. :)

p.s. I looked up Ophiological Services. They seem top notch!

Update: I had not handled Alpha for a couple days so I took him out tonight. I should have realized more quickly that something was off. It was dark out and he was still in his hide. He also looked a little darker.

When I picked him up he was a little more flighty than usual. As he moved around and began to crawl up my arm I finally got a good look at his face and saw quite clearly that his eyes were hazy. Yep, going into shed. I decided to put him back to prevent any further stress.

I I was a little disappointed but also happy that he is growing and in need of a shed. I'll have to decide on Thursday if I am going to attempt to feed him. My BPs still et when they are shedding so I will likely try.

He did not eat.. I fed a rat pup tonight as usual, it would his been his third consecutive week on rat pups. The only difference this week is the cloudy eyes. No other signs of shedding yet so I thought I would try.

Live rat pup, Bredli was not interested at all. He moved around the tub and took notice of the rat, even coming face-to-face a couple of times, but he always ended up retreating and never took a strike. After awhile it was apparent he had no interest. Hopefully, it's a quick shed and he is back to business soon. My BPs eat when they are shedding so it was a little surprising he didn't.

I'm sure he'll pick right up where he left off after his shed Rock. I've had some snakes eat while in shed and others that refuse. I don't feed any of them during shed now and they're almost always chomping at the bit when they're done.

Such a beautiful carpet!!!

Keep us updated :)

Also: This is my rifle. There are many others like it, but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my rifle is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy, who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will. Before God I swear this creed: my rifle and myself are defenders of my country, we are the masters of our enemy, we are the saviors of my life. So be it, until there is no enemy, but peace. Amen.

great quote

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I'm sure he'll pick right up where he left off after his shed Rock. I've had some snakes eat while in shed and others that refuse. I don't feed any of them during shed now and they're almost always chomping at the bit when they're done.

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Thanks, Zig, I hope so.

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Originally Posted by Aste88

Such a beautiful carpet!!!

Keep us updated :)

Also: This is my rifle. There are many others like it, but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my rifle is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy, who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will. Before God I swear this creed: my rifle and myself are defenders of my country, we are the masters of our enemy, we are the saviors of my life. So be it, until there is no enemy, but peace. Amen.

great quote

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Thank you very much and I will...

You've got it! Amen.

Yeah, I wouldn't worry about it - it's common for many snakes to refuse food while shedding. Let him finish and he'll be hungry again.

Thank you, everything in my mind says that is totally correct so it puts me at ease a bit. However, I will be waiting patiently/concerned until he eats again.

Nix the concern !!

During digestion the internals of a snake go into "over drive". A lot of things going on.

During shedding there is also a bunch of "things going on". Plus a snake may not want to create a "bump" the skin has to roll over and off of.

Some eat during shed, some are fine doing it. Many refuse. Completely and utterly normal.

As a matter of fact, I don't even offer food during shed, and all mine are fine ;)

Thank you. I feel a little less stressed about it.

No real sign of shed yet, at least that I can tell. He has been holed up in his rock for a couple days. :(

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Thank you. I feel a little less stressed about it.

No real sign of shed yet, at least that I can tell. He has been holed up in his rock for a couple days. :(

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My carpet has been the most difficult for me to catch an upcoming shed of all the snake here.

Don't sweat the eating part. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. It is very common for snakes to refuse food, and it is natural. They all have different personalities and some will eat during shed some will not.

Your Bredli will also benefit, at least in coloring from some real outdoor sunlight from time to time. I believe it is mentioned in THE COMPLETE CARPET PYTHON, that Bredli will often adopt a more drab red color when in captivity, if never given real sunlight or at least UV in the cage.

I'll bet you'll see some smoking coloring after the shed goes down.

Thanks, Gio. He was out on his branches last night so I took him out. He handled great, his eyes were clear and I still found nothing on his skin that looked like the beginning of a shed. Strange because his eyes last week looked completely cloudy like I have seen on my BPs before a shed and then, of course, the lack of hunger two days later?

Anyway, he is acting normal so I will attempt to feed him tomorrow. If not, my Coral Glow and his incredible feeding response will get a second rat pup again!

Perfect timing on the UV reference. I was just about to post a question on that. I read that before as well, that sunlight or UV light helps with brightening Bredli. Specifically, I am contemplating switching my Super Pastel BP to the Bredli's tub and putting him in the 10 gallon glass/screen top enclosure for now. The BP needs more humidity and the tub would help and I could put the UV lamp over the screen for big red.

Let us know if there is any noticeable different from adding UV light. I've thought about doing a UV bulb as well but currently holding off as I'm not sure how much heat they put off.

Right now I have a 2-bulb fixture with a 25W for a basking spot and an LED bulb for general light. All the UV bulbs I see online seem to be high wattage so I am worried they will put off too much heat and throw off my temps.

Will do, I have thought about the same issue(s). Might involve dimming the UTH, timing the light to a shorter duration, etc... I will likely wait until Sunday/Monday after everyone has fed and digested.

He shed, he ate! I will get new pics by the weekend. :)

Great news! I'm still waiting for my girl to shed here Offered her a mouse today but she didn't want it so I'll try again after the shed. Like people said, it's a common thing for them not to be interested in food at that time.

That's great Rock. One down 239 to go! :)
It's wonderful when they're eating, pooping, and shedding without any issues. You must be doing something right. ;)

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Great news! I'm still waiting for my girl to shed here Offered her a mouse today but she didn't want it so I'll try again after the shed. Like people said, it's a common thing for them not to be interested in food at that time.

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Thanks, I feel relieved. Guess I was spoiled by my BPs who have never been affected, up to this point, while in shed.

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That's great Rock. One down 239 to go! :)
It's wonderful when they're eating, pooping, and shedding without any issues. You must be doing something right. ;)

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Thank you, I'm trying and yep, many more feedings to go! What's amazing is how quickly and efficiently he shed. I was surprised to see it completely off already when I couldn't tell 2 days ago much difference in his skin. As noted, the humidity requirement is certainly much less necessary than with Royals.

From what I could see today his color is looking better with each shed. Time for some UV!

Side note, I might jump a rat size up next week. I will check his current weight in a few days.

Made the decision today to go up in size from a rat pup to small rat. No problem, seemed just right. My BPs also took their rat pups with lightning speed.

Everyone is happy all around. Looking forward to more growth. Glad all three seem to have their needs met. 😊

Always on the move.

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Lookin good Rock. He's growing fast too.

Beautiful!

Keep the updates coming.

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Always on the move.

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I think I would be worried if any of my Carpets weren't always on the move when handling!

He is coming along nicely, just beautiful.

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Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy

Lookin good Rock. He's growing fast too.

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Thanks, Zig. I agree, he looks like he is starting to put on a little weight. He will be feeding today so I will get him on the scale next week. Very curious to see where he is at!

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Originally Posted by Gio

Beautiful!

Keep the updates coming.

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Thank you, Gio! He is certainly a great representation of the species and that is what I was looking for.

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Originally Posted by Reinz

I think I would be worried if any of my Carpets weren't always on the move when handling!

He is coming along nicely, just beautiful.

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You're right, Reinz and thank you.

My only concern is that he is still a little cage shy when I am in the room at night. If I walk in and turn on the light he will stop and then decide to crawl in his hide. My BPs do not do that.

Perhaps red night lights would help so I don't have to turn on the overhead light?

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Originally Posted by rock

Perhaps red night lights would help so I don't have to turn on the overhead light?

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I'll use the red light on the LED strips to check on the snakes at night. Sometimes if I don't feel like searching for the remotes in the dark I'll just use a small flashlight for a quick peak. I usually don't point it directly in the cage. I just point the light semi vertically next to the cage and the refractive light is enough for inspection yet noninvasive.


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Jake- "I see the light!"

I use red lights to help with my night viewing as well. I'm often up late at night and my critters make the perfect entertainment when the rest of the house is asleep. As Gio said in a recent thread, it's better than TV ;).