King of Dinkers update...

Ohhhhh!!!!! Exciting!! I can't wait to see what popps out of those eggs! I hope your guy proves out-- he is a stunning animal!
I want one! XD

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Originally Posted by Dave Green

It's only day 54 folks. I haven't cut eggs in years but these clutches are testing my patience...

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How are the eggs lookin?

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Ohhhhh!!!!! Exciting!! I can't wait to see what popps out of those eggs! I hope your guy proves out-- he is a stunning animal!
I want one! XD

If he does prove out, do you have an idea of what the morph would be called?

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Damn, it made a double post. Sorry about that xD

I would have cut lol can't wait to see the results Man.


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I'm so stoked to see these hatchlings

I'm with Emilio. I would have a hard time waiting now lol. Just a small little cut just to see


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same for me , day 55 i cut for sure !!!! so exciting about your project

Any updates? should be close now. I've been curious about this dude since he was hatched out. If it does prove to be genetic...so on my wish list.

Two clutches are hatching (11 eggs) and unless I had horrible odds it's not dominant. I would have loved to hatch a few, but I've thought this was a recessive gene from the beginning so hopefully I'm hatching a bunch of Hets...2.6 so far out of the egg.

Recessive is better than nothing, can't wait to see pics of the babies

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Post some updates on the babies when they hatch! It would be interesting to see if any of them have "markers" or abberant patterns (assuming they are heterozygous and this is genetic).

That makes more sense. For a gene to just pop out randomly from two parents unlike it makes you think it would be recessive. However if that is the case wouldn't you try breeding him back to the mother? Or is that one of the expected clutches?

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That makes more sense. For a gene to just pop out randomly from two parents unlike it makes you think it would be recessive. However if that is the case wouldn't you try breeding him back to the mother? Or is that one of the expected clutches?

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Actually any type of genetic passing would make perfect sense. How do you think any base morph happened? A pastel was just born one day with none before it. Same with any other morph out there. It is a random flaw in the genetic code that makes a morph. I would go so far as to say that the first albino, pied, axanthic, and any other recessive gene first appeared as the homozygous form which then created the hets in the wild and not as 2 hets in the wild randomly mating and making the homozygous animal.

a little deception here, i was expecting your clutches result almost as much as my own clutches, you will need 3 more years to make sure about it. sorry for you. but better late than never:gj:

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That makes more sense. For a gene to just pop out randomly from two parents unlike it makes you think it would be recessive. However if that is the case wouldn't you try breeding him back to the mother? Or is that one of the expected clutches?

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I did breed him back to mom. She laid a small clutch of 5 eggs and 4 slugs; however, 2 eggs went bad right away. So, this years hopes depend on 3 eggs...

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Originally Posted by Dave Green

I did breed him back to mom. She laid a small clutch of 5 eggs and 4 slugs; however, 2 eggs went bad right away. So, this years hopes depend on 3 eggs...

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What day are those eggs on?

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What day are those eggs on?

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Only day 19.

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Actually any type of genetic passing would make perfect sense. How do you think any base morph happened? A pastel was just born one day with none before it. Same with any other morph out there. It is a random flaw in the genetic code that makes a morph. I would go so far as to say that the first albino, pied, axanthic, and any other recessive gene first appeared as the homozygous form which then created the hets in the wild and not as 2 hets in the wild randomly mating and making the homozygous animal.

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Very true. I had never thought about that concept before but of course mutations had to pop out of somewhere at some point. But what determines whether this mutation is heritable or just an individual fluke?

that is one fantastic looking snake though

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Very true. I had never thought about that concept before but of course mutations had to pop out of somewhere at some point. But what determines whether this mutation is heritable or just an individual fluke?

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If this trait is able to be inherinable would be seen through line breeding as is being done.

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Only day 19.

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Only 41 more days to go. [emoji17]


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Only day 19.

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Any update on this clutch? Still going good and on time to an early October piping?

20 more days right? You must be excited!!

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Any update on this clutch? Still going good and on time to an early October piping?

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We're getting close...all three eggs look perfect.

The King of Dinkers has reproduced himself!! It's still in the egg but as soon as it hatches I'll post photos...

So it's recessive, can't wait for pics :D

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Congrats...this will be one heck of gene to work with..glad to see it proving out

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Congrats Dave! I'd love to get in on it if it is recessive.

yaaaaaaaaaaaay!

All I can say is: "Dude, No Way"!

This is awesome. I am at a loss for words as to how awesone this is. Congrats on an amazingly stunning animal that is genetic and not just a fluke.

Dave I'm super excited about your success with this morph! Can't wait to see pics! Have you thought up on a name for your project... :D

Best new morph

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That is so cool. Congrats!!! I so want one....if I could afford it. ;)

Crossing my fingers it's a female for you, Dave. Not that this project needs anything else to boost the excitement. The idea that this baby and the father could be heterozygous sure doesn't hurt!

Cant wait to see the pictures.

A big congratulations. That is amazing, can't wait to see pics. Love this project. :gj:

Sweet! I am so looking forward to pics.

Glad for you! He's incredible will be cool see how this plays out over next few seasons!

Epic!! This is easily one of the COOLEST bp patterns I've ever seen. So excited for pics!

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I don't think I would ever get tired of looking at that snake.

Yea me too I want one badly but will be years before they hit canada

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PICTURES IMMEDIATELY!!! I'm so glad for you that this proved genetic. Do you have any ideas for what you want to call this gorgeous new morph?

can't wait for the photo's!

grats!!

I have some crappy news to report this morning. Yesterday both of the siblings to the baby dinker had piped and had their heads sticking out of their eggs. The baby dinker had made a lot of very small slits in its egg so I decided to make a small opening in the egg to help it out. I was obviously thrilled when I saw an exact copy of dad, it was alive, moving and looked beautiful. This morning it's head still wasn't out so I decide to lift the small flap I had made in the egg and the snake was in the same position as the night before, and it wasn't moving. Unfortunately, it was completely formed and dead in the egg. The snake looked perfect except it didn't completely absorb it's yolk. This is obviously the last thing I wanted to post this morning but I am still thrilled knowing this morph is genetic. The original Dinker, his siblings and half siblings from 2013 have all thrived and have been great feeders from the beginning. This years hets are all doing well and ate frozen thawed almost immediately after shedding. Therefore, I have no reason to think there is an issue with the gene, before today I was very impressed with how all the animals from this line have thrived and done well for me.

I am really excited with the potential of this pattern mutation and should be able to produce a small group next season. Some of his half siblings are already large enough to breed, 2016 should be very exciting. I have received an incredible response from yesterday's posts, I have barely been able to keep up with the e-mails and messages. I have also received quite a few people inquiring if I'm selling any, etc. At this point, I won't be selling any babies from this line until 2016. Thanks to everyone for all the positive comments!!

Dave

Sad to hear that but very exciting about everything else and I especially can't wait to seem him with the pied those double hets :) my favorite so far

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I'm sorry to hear the little one didn't make it :(

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Aw no, at least you know it is reproducible, but its so sad to hear the lil one didn't make it.

I'm a little weird and would keep him Jared but that's just me I did it with a baby bearded dragon that didn't make it and lots of people love it

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So sorry for your loss.... wow, after all that work. Keep your chin up, 2016 looks bright!