Please help, I lost my snake in my car :(

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Originally Posted by mattboyle96

How has no one pointed how big of a doofus this person is for not make sure bag was tied before leaving it on their car seat. Snakes are some of the greatest escape artists in the world, precautions must be taken at all times. Feel sorry for the snake, the beautiful animal is now probably dead somewhere. flippin doofus:mad:

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That was just completely unnecessary! Name calling doesn't help, and she already admitted to feeling horrible. She had her car torn apart trying to find her snake, and so far, has been unfortunate. She has done Everything she can in an attempt to find this snake, and now she can only hope that it turns up somewhere. Didn't your mom ever teach you "if you can say something nice, don't say anything at all"?


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Originally Posted by Laurenmassx

I hope this works! These are pictures of her at the show before she went missing :/
http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/...pse4df2b89.jpg

http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/...ps77f7c4ae.jpg

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That is a beautiful snake!! I really hope he/she turns up in good condition.


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Did you look in the trunk, where the spare tire is? If your back seats fold down she could fit through the seats and get back there.

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Originally Posted by mattboyle96

How has no one pointed how big of a doofus this person is for not make sure bag was tied before leaving it on their car seat. Snakes are some of the greatest escape artists in the world, precautions must be taken at all times. Feel sorry for the snake, the beautiful animal is now probably dead somewhere. flippin doofus:mad:

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Please take the hate elsewhere. How would you like it if you lost your pet? OP has already clarified how bad she feels and she doesn't need you making her feel worse.

OP, those pictures are adorable:( I've got my fingers crossed that you still can find her!!!

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Originally Posted by mattboyle96

How has no one pointed how big of a doofus this person is for not make sure bag was tied before leaving it on their car seat. Snakes are some of the greatest escape artists in the world, precautions must be taken at all times. Feel sorry for the snake, the beautiful animal is now probably dead somewhere. flippin doofus:mad:

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To answer your question: Because WE can conduct ourselves like adults in public. Please remember your words next time you screw up.

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Originally Posted by mattboyle96

holy some people need their big boy pants on!!! suck it up, op messed up royally not gunna pat him/her on the head and say everything is ok. lol if i was brought up like that id be a mommies boy and not know how to fend for myself in the real world. when someone messes up you let them know, and whats with censoring on this site, what are we 11? not to worried if i get booted, wont loose sleep over it

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you just keep going on in life with that as your motto. think our moms told us that when we were 6 lol. bunch of wimps on this website thats all i gotta say. thats the problem with the world today, everyone babies their kids and they cant any heat and have such thin skin.:rage:

id feel "bad" too if I lost my pet, but i am also smarter then the pets I own so these problems dont occur in my house. have had snakes and other reptiles since I was 13, have never lost a pet. I would also take full responsibility on myself for what i did, not try and blame the breeder for not sealing the bag.

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Originally Posted by mattboyle96

you just keep going on in life with that as your motto. think our moms told us that when we were 6 lol. bunch of wimps on this website thats all i gotta say. thats the problem with the world today, everyone babies their kids and they cant any heat and have such thin skin.:rage:

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You know where the door is........................
Also a bunch of young children.
Please learn to respect the users here.

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Originally Posted by mattboyle96

How has no one pointed how big of a doofus this person is for not make sure bag was tied before leaving it on their car seat. Snakes are some of the greatest escape artists in the world, precautions must be taken at all times. Feel sorry for the snake, the beautiful animal is now probably dead somewhere. flippin doofus:mad:

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Originally Posted by mattboyle96

holy some people need their big boy pants on!!! suck it up, op messed up royally not gunna pat him/her on the head and say everything is ok. lol if i was brought up like that id be a mommies boy and not know how to fend for myself in the real world. when someone messes up you let them know, and whats with censoring on this site, what are we 11? not to worried if i get booted, wont loose sleep over it

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Originally Posted by mattboyle96

well there are better reptile forums then this, not too worried there dr.geek

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Originally Posted by mattboyle96

we are reptile keepers, what reptile keeper doesnt talk like a trucker? for real?

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Originally Posted by mattboyle96

you just keep going on in life with that as your motto. think our moms told us that when we were 6 lol. bunch of wimps on this website thats all i gotta say. thats the problem with the world today, everyone babies their kids and they cant any heat and have such thin skin.:rage:

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Originally Posted by mattboyle96

id feel "bad" too if I lost my pet, but i am also smarter then the pets I own so these problems dont occur in my house. have had snakes and other reptiles since I was 13, have never lost a pet. I would also take full responsibility on myself for what i did, not try and blame the breeder for not sealing the bag.

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And why are you here again? You have had nothing but negative things to say about the op and the site so why are you even here? If you want to not be helpful at all, make rude comments, and use whatever kind of language you want you can do all of that on another forum, because that is not what this one is about.

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Originally Posted by mattboyle96

we are reptile keepers, what reptile keeper doesnt talk like a trucker? for real?

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Well, I for one generally talk like an adult instead of a little boy trying to shock his parents.

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Originally Posted by mattboyle96

well there are better reptile forums then this, not too worried there dr.geek

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Originally Posted by mattboyle96

we are reptile keepers, what reptile keeper doesnt talk like a trucker? for real?

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I don't. For real.

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Originally Posted by mattboyle96

you just keep going on in life with that as your motto. think our moms told us that when we were 6 lol. bunch of wimps on this website thats all i gotta say. thats the problem with the world today, everyone babies their kids and they cant any heat and have such thin skin.:rage:

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We'd be very happy to show you the door. I don't think the forum would miss your "contributions". Your actions, your decision. I'm sure any member of staff would be happy to escort you there. This is your warning.

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Originally Posted by mattboyle96

id feel "bad" too if I lost my pet, but i am also smarter then the pets I own so these problems dont occur in my house. have had snakes and other reptiles since I was 13, have never lost a pet. I would also take full responsibility on myself for what i did, not try and blame the breeder for not sealing the bag.

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And if the 96 in your name is your birth year, that would make you 18. That's five years. Some of the people on this forum, that have replied to this thread, have been keeping snakes for longer than you've been alive. You want to talk about acting mature and putting on big boy pants, then comport your self with some respect and compassion for your fellow human beings.

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Originally Posted by mattboyle96

well there are better reptile forums then this, not too worried there dr.geek

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I curse like a sailor but there is a time and a place.


I keep coming back to this thread hoping for good news and see this garbage?

Blah.

Hopefully she turns up. I would literally be sick over this. She is beautiful and hopefully she shows up.

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Originally Posted by mattboyle96

How has no one pointed how big of a doofus this person is for not make sure bag was tied before leaving it on their car seat. Snakes are some of the greatest escape artists in the world, precautions must be taken at all times. Feel sorry for the snake, the beautiful animal is now probably dead somewhere. flippin doofus:mad:

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Its very sad that rude people like you are even in the community. You are the kind of person that gives any community a bad rep and name. This forum does tell people when they made a mistake and are not aware of it. They do notify people when they are being ignorent to a situation. The OP feels bad enough about this horrible situation. She does not need an ignorent fool like you rubbing it in her face. Snakes are very good at escaping this is not either persons fault. Other people have been helpful by giving advice to help avoid this situation in the future like having a tub for transport and double checking the ties on bags. Everyone has been helpful to the OP except for you. If you dont like it here and how we choose to handle situations then keep your rude worthless comments to yourself and leave. You dont want to be here we dont want you here if you are like this. Dont let the door hit you on the way out.

To the OP unfortunatly everywhere you go you have to deal with fools like Mattboyle96. Please ignore his rude comments. I am sorry that you still have had no luck in finding your snake. It is a beautiful baby albino. As others have stated you never know it may still come crawling out of some part of the car looking for food. Best of luck.

One suggestion, and I'm sorry if someone posted it earlier (this threat has a lot to filter out while scanning through it), but did you by chance happen to check the headliner of the car? I know of an instance here in NC where a Rat snake got into a car (it was hiding in a planter pot bought at a local garden center) and the cars owner saw it slither under her seat when she went to remove the pot. Being afraid of snakes she panicked and had the car brought to the dealership, who took the car apart to find it. It was found coiled up above the headliner which makes sense as it's basically a radiant heat panel.

I do hope you're able to locate her.

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Originally Posted by aLittleLessButter

Something I've started doing when I go to shows is taking a plastic tub with a locking lid and holes drilled into it and I leave that in the truck. That way, in case I buy anything no matter what they put it in, I move it to my locking tub and I don't have to worry about it. The first time I had a breeder give me my snake in a bag, I drove home with it in my lap and it got out of the bag so I ended up having to hold him the rest of the way and drive with one had. Next day I went out and bought the tubs

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That's exactly what I got my first snake in. I should have known better but I've never gotten a snake in a bag before and didn't see him trying to escape. If I would have known he was going to get out I would have definitely tied a knot in the bag. At least I know that for next time, thanks for the tip :)

Did you inspect the passenger seat he was on extremely well? A lot of times there are seams (velcro, zippered, or otherwise) at the edges, and in between the seat cushion and seat back, where a snake could squeeze into. He could be trapped (or just hiding) in the seat cushion or seat back, versus under the seat.

Thank you everyone for defending me. I don't think he even went through the actual post but I know that this is my fault I just wish he would have knotted it or something for me, never did I say it was the breeders fault. I really hope that I do find her she was a gorgeous snake and I got her for such a great deal as well :/ if I don't find her I'll have to get a male albino instead. I've stated in the post how upset I was when I lifted up the empty bag I literally had a break down and called all my reptile friends & got into trouble at work because I told them I wouldn't go in until I found her. It was an accident I never meant for this to happen & didn't think it would happen to me. Thank you everyone for the hope though I still have hope they she is going to slither out soon I'm just giving it time for right now and hoping that nothing is wrong with her.

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Originally Posted by C2tcardin

One suggestion, and I'm sorry if someone posted it earlier (this threat has a lot to filter out while scanning through it), but did you by chance happen to check the headliner of the car? I know of an instance here in NC where a Rat snake got into a car (it was hiding in a planter pot bought at a local garden center) and the cars owner saw it slither under her seat when she went to remove the pot. Being afraid of snakes she panicked and had the car brought to the dealership, who took the car apart to find it. It was found coiled up above the headliner which makes sense as it's basically a radiant heat panel.

I do hope you're able to locate her.

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Yeah we did, we tore up the care and lifted up the whole entire carpeting on both sides of the car. We took off all the side panels everything, she was nowhere to be seen :/

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Originally Posted by Fireproof

Did you inspect the passenger seat he was on extremely well? A lot of times there are seams (velcro, zippered, or otherwise) at the edges, and in between the seat cushion and seat back, where a snake could squeeze into. He could be trapped (or just hiding) in the seat cushion or seat back, versus under the seat.

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yeah we took out the entire passenger seat and inspected it, we couldn't find her anywhere inside of it.

What kind of car?
Check the heater core under the dash. That is the only heat source in a vehicle other than the sun heating it. Not the greatest heat sorce for a snake either. Normal operating temperature is around 215 degrees.

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

What kind of car?
Check the heater core under the dash. That is the only heat source in a vehicle other than the sun heating it. Not the greatest heat sorce for a snake either. Normal operating temperature is around 215 degrees.

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Its a 2012 Mazda 3 sedan. We took out the dash and the AC and looked behind it she wasn't there :/ I have no idea where else she could be.

Anytime I go to a reptile show whether I plan on buying anything or not, I always take along an empty beer cooler with a latching top, it's secure and it's also insulated so it protects against temperature extremes.

123 posts on this? Really? Send some of these people back to Facebook where they came from.

Good luck finding your snake, but 4 days later I'm not sure your odds are great at this point.

I have been following this thread, and was wondering if you really searched your trunk well, like under the trunk carpet, in the spare tire and the spare tire well. I know for a fact that by law there must be spaces behind the back seat for air circulation. and small holes in the trunk for the same reason. also look in the rear lights, if there is enough space for you to put your hand to change a bulb there is enough room for a small snake to hide. I am so sorry she was lost, but you might still find her. Don't beat yourself up over it. We all make mistakes, I'm 64 years old and have made plenty, and plan on making a lot more, can't help it, if your alive you make them, When i stop making mistakes it means i'm no longer here.
so keep searching you never can tell when or where she may pop out.

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Originally Posted by MrLang

123 posts on this? Really? Send some of these people back to Facebook where they came from.

Good luck finding your snake, but 4 days later I'm not sure your odds are great at this point.

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Oh the irony, Mr. Post 124...:rolleyes:

123 posts is the tangible evidence of community support in a situation most of us can relate to because we have EMPATHY.

I'm still following your thread and sending my heartfelt wishes that your little girl comes slithering out. All I know is that I'm GRATEFUL not to have the soul-sucking lack of empathy that a couple of people in this thread do. MOST of us are rooting for you and your snake!

Hey Matt, if you noticed, folks here were nice enough by not returning the favor of beating YOU up due to your lack of proofreading and punctuation skills.

I really hope you find your snake, she looks awesome:D. A shame That she got loose:please::tears:.

Some people just get off on others miss habs, last I checked no one was perfect. I've lost my snake once and it was scary (and that was for one day), so get over your self:taz:

Glove compartment maybe? It'll look for warmth. I know a friend that lost they're baby snake in the car. And found it in the engine.


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Originally Posted by mattboyle96

id feel "bad" too if I lost my pet, but i am also smarter then the pets I own so these problems dont occur in my house. have had snakes and other reptiles since I was 13, have never lost a pet. I would also take full responsibility on myself for what i did, not try and blame the breeder for not sealing the bag.

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Smarter what??? After reading your replies, I seriously doubt that.....:disbelief

She's looking for warmth. Look where you think would be warm. Under seats, trunk, engine, even in the tire wells, she can see heat better than you!

She is still alive, if she were dead you would know it. Reptiles smell much worse than mammals when decomposing. Do not give up.

There is quite a bit of irony between this comment in another thread:

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Originally Posted by mattboyle96

this isnt even fair!!! i cant find a girl whos loves snakes to save my life and then there are all these amazing women posting beautiful pics!!! they should turn this into a herp loving dating sight lol jk

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and the comments made in this thread, you claim to be smart.... can you figure out that mystery?

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

There is quite a bit of irony between this comment in another thread:


and the comments made in this thread, you claim to be smart.... can you figure out that mystery?

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Maybe it's because the women are smarter than him....

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Originally Posted by Laurenmassx

Thank you! But I completely understand, it didn't come across mean. I've been worried to call the breeder just because I know it's mostly my fault. I'm really hoping she's going to crawl out from somewhere as well, I still have hope. Maybe she will get hungry soon and slither out.

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I've been reading through this page from the first page, and I am sorry if others have said this (I'm sure they have) but regardless of whether the breeder actually replaces your snake or offers anything, he/she does need to know that the bag was not secured properly so they don't do it with someone else, too. When I got my bp at a reptile expo at the beginning of November, the breeder knotted the bag itself and then secured the string, wrapping it around the top of the bag. There's no way the snake could have escaped from it. Sounds like in your case, the breeder just cinched the string and handed the bag off to you (if I'm reading your posts right). Just let the breeder know so that they can amend the mistake in the future

I am sorry this happened to you. I know I would be upset too had it happened to me. However, IMO once the breeder hands the snake off it is the new owners responsibility from then on to make sure the snake is secured..Most people who are vending shows are busy fielding questions, and getting out animals for prospective buyers to inspect. They are busy people!! Sure maybe in a rush the vendor did not take the time to make sure the snake was secured as good as it could have been, but I still believe that once the snake is in the new owners possession it is up to the new owner to make sure it is secured.

This thread caught my eye. I own a retic and I hope you find your python. Pretty intriguing. I can't imagine where it could be but I would be totally bummed out.

I was wondering if you found her yet? There hasn't been an update in a bit. I hope you have, she is a beauty!

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Originally Posted by Smarion0006

I was wondering if you found her yet? There hasn't been an update in a bit. I hope you have, she is a beauty!

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Me too i want to know if you found your snake !!!:taz:

Yes, yes, inquiring minds......:confusd:

I get the feeling the snake was never found. What a shame :(