A member is on TV! (Intervention)

Heh in the rainforest it's usually the last person in a group of people hiking to see the fer-de-lance that everyone just stepped over... Venomous would rather sit still and not be bothered rather than waste a bite on something it can not eat. Least we forget that venom does more than just subdue prey, it assists in the digestion process. As far as handling wild venomous goes. I can't say anything against it as I have free handled a fair number of quick and deadly snakes including wild western diamondback Rattlesnakes. It's not for every body and serves no immediate purpose. But can be done without harm when done right.

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Much as the post above this one. I guess you missed it, but this isn't about free handling hots, it's about the lies and asshattery of animal planet and the way they lied to Danny.

No I did not miss it - I just added to the current debate being mentioned. But thanks for pointing that out as usual Wilomn :gj:

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No I did not miss it - I just added to the current debate being mentioned. But thanks for pointing that out as usual Wilomn :gj:

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Unless I missed it, you're the first one to mention free handling in this thread. It's not about free handling, no matter how much you want to brag about how cool you are. Perhaps if you stuck to the subject of the thread, how a member here was lied to and made to look like some ignorant keeper to boost ratings on a worthless TV show.

If you want to preen for us, start a thread about how neat you are, but leave this one to Danny and how he was taken advantage of.

It's about the risk of getting close to a hot meaning that you will get bit just because you are in range, and the comments directed at such sayings. If it were a bragging post, allow me to get my soap box I keep for just such an occassion and spam pictures of said events for all to glow in. Oh wait, no that is what you want it to be about to have something to point out. Stop looking for stuff to complain about Wilomn - please. It's getting quite old.

You folks know that I'm not a big snake fan, but, when I saw a program that Animal Planet televised,
it really made me sick! It was about a rattlesnake roundup in Texas, where people from all over the
world would come, and roundup as many rattlesnakes as the could. Then, here's the part that left me
pretty empty, they would take these helpless animals, and ruthlessly kill them in a variety of ways. There
was nothing humane about this, and these people would get their kicks out of subjecting all these animals
to cruel and barbaric ways of torturing them by hacking their heads off, or skinning them alive. There was
this one guy I'll never forget, he wore this stupid looking hat with a stuffed rattlesnake on top, whereas
he got in to a tub with live rattlesnakes setting some dumb Gluiness book of world record. I'm really
surprised that the state of Texas allows this brutal act to go on year after year. I suppose it's all about
the money!

I know my previous thread was off topic, but I thought about all the horrific acts that
are happening against creatures like snakes, just because well, they are snakes.
So apologies, and I'm now back on track!

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You folks know that I'm not a big snake fan, but, when I saw a program that Animal Planet televised,
it really made me sick! It was about a rattlesnake roundup in Texas, where people from all over the
world would come, and roundup as many rattlesnakes as the could. Then, here's the part that left me
pretty empty, they would take these helpless animals, and ruthlessly kill them in a variety of ways. There
was nothing humane about this, and these people would get their kicks out of subjecting all these animals
to cruel and barbaric ways of torturing them by hacking their heads off, or skinning them alive. There was
this one guy I'll never forget, he wore this stupid looking hat with a stuffed rattlesnake on top, whereas
he got in to a tub with live rattlesnakes setting some dumb Gluiness book of world record. I'm really
surprised that the state of Texas allows this brutal act to go on year after year. I suppose it's all about
the money!

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I know my previous thread was off topic, but I thought about all the horrific acts that
are happening against creatures like snakes, just because well, they are snakes.
So apologies, and I'm now back on track!

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Sadly those are the attitudes we experience all the time, just because we have snakes. People HATE snakes, and it seems an awful lot of people out there seem to think it is ok to torture them, or speak about torturing them, just because they are snakes. I personally don't think everyone needs to like snakes, but they should have some basic respect for the animal since it is a living creature.
Tying this into the topic... not everyone needs to like the idea of keeping a snake as a pet either, not everyone needs to keep a snake for a pet, but on the same hand, that doesn't mean no one should keep snakes. Likewise not everyone likes dogs, not everyone needs to keep a dog, but that doesn't mean those people should mistreat and abuse dogs.

As a responible snake owner I think it is my duty to post this link to Fatal Attractions wikapedia page so someone can put the truth out about this show. Many someones would be better the more the better. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_A...ns_(TV_series) I am so appaled by what I read I felt it was a duty to allow snake owners to put the truth out about the show. I have not watched the show so I do not feel qualified.

Ps I hope the troll does not have any 5 gallon buckets they are soooo dangerous.

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As a responible snake owner I think it is my duty to post this link to Fatal Attractions wikapedia page so someone can put the truth out about this show. Many someones would be better the more the better. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_A...ns_(TV_series) I am so appaled by what I read I felt it was a duty to allow snake owners to put the truth out about the show. I have not watched the show so I do not feel qualified.

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I have watched all the ones they have on Netflix. Basically every show has the same recipe. Show a normal house, add scary music. Show a snake in its enclosure, zoom in, add scary music. Show the poor sap they are taking advantage of Get a clip of him talking then cut to a voice over talking about how lonely they must be to keep such dangerous animals. Animal planet doing their best to put animals in a good light.

Not trying to through fuel on the fire, but I thought it would be worth knowing who Winston Card actually is. These references were taken from someone elses post on a similar topic.

1. Mahaffey, D and W. Card. 1990. First time captive breeding of the two-striped forest-pitviper Bothriopsis bilineata. AZA Communiqué. August. 1990.
2. Card, W. 1993. “Notes on the Natural History and Husbandry of the Temple Viper,” Vivarium Vol. 5 No. 5
3. Garrett, C.M. and Winston C. Card. 1993. Chemical Discrimination or Prey by Naïve Neonate Gould’s Monitors Varanus Gouldii. Journal of Chemical Ecology. 19(11):2599-2604.
4. Card, W. 1994. Draco Volans Reproduction. Herpetological Review 25(2 ) p.65
5. Card, W. 1994. Double clutching Gould's monitors (Varanus gouldii) and Gray's monitors (Varanus olivaceus) at the Dallas Zoo Herpetological Review 25(3)111;114
6. Card, W. 1994. A reproductive history of monitors at the Dallas Zoo. Vivarium 6(1):26-29
7. 255-265.
8. Card, Winston;Mehaffey, Doug. 1994. A radiographic sexing technique for Heloderma suspectum Herpetological Review 25 1 17-19
9. Card, W. 1994 Just my opinion: A commentary on zoos and the private sector. Iguana Times 3(4):17-19
10. Card, W. 1994. Blotched Blue-Tongued Skink. Vivarium, Vol. 6, No. 3.
11. Card, W. 1994. Notes on the Natural History and Husbandry of the Oriental Fire-Bellied Toad. Reptiles Magazine 4:3.
12. Card, W. 1994. Natural history and husbandry of the shingleback skink (Trachydosaurus rugosus) and the blotched blue-tounged skink (Tiliqua nigrolutea). Vivarium. 6 (3):26-29.
13. Card, W. C. And A. G. Kluge. 1995. Hemipeneal skeleton and varanid lizard systematics. Journal of Herpetology. 29(2):275-280.
14. Card, W. 1995. Rhinoceros viper (Bitis nasicornis). Reptiles Magazine 3(8)8-12
15. Card, Winston. 1995. Captive maintenance & reproduction of Gould's monitor lizard (Varanus gouldii) Reptiles Magazine 3(3):84-91
16. Card, W. 1995. End of an era: an interview with Dr. James B. Murphy. Vivarium 7(1):38-43
17. Card, W. 1995. Gray's monitor lizard (Varanus olivaceus) at the Dallas Zoo. Reptiles Magazine 3(5):78-85
18. Card, W. 1995. Notes on herping in the tropical wet forests of Costa Rica. Vivarium 7(3):30-37
19. Card, W. 1995. Monitor lizard husbandry. Bulletin of the Association of Reptilian Amphibian Veterinarians 5(3):9-17
20. Card, W and Dave T. Roberts. 1996. Incidence of Bites from Venomous Reptiles in North American Zoos. Herpetological Review 27(1):15-17.
21. Card, W. 1997. “Considerations for manipulating artificial environmental parameters for reptiles in captivity” Reptiles Magazine 5(1):66-67
22. Murphy, James B.and Winston Card.1998. A Glimpse into the Life of a Zoo Herpetologist.Herpetological Review 29(2):85–90.
23. Card, W.C.; D. T. Robertsand R. A. Odum. 1998. Does Zoo Herpetology have a Future? Zoo Biology 17(5):453-462.
24. Garrett, C. M.^; Donal M. Boyer^; Winston C. Card^; David T. Roberts^; James B. Murphy^; David Chiszar. 1998. Comparison of chemosensory behavior and prey trail-following in the varanoid lizards Varanus gouldii and Heloderma suspectum. Zoo Biology 15(3):
25. Card, Winstonand James B. Murphy.2000. Lineages and histories of zoo herpetologistsin the United States. Herpetological Circular 27, Society for the Study of Amphibians and Reptiles, Shoreview, Minnesota, iii, 45 pages.
26. Card, Winston; Aucone, Brian. 2000. Bufo murinus (NCN) Predation. Herpetological Review 31(3):117-118.
27. Aucone, Brian; Card, Winston. 2002. Scinax cruentomma (NCN) Predation. Herpetological Review 33(1):48
28. Card, W. 2004. A conversation with Walter Auffenberg. Reptiles Magazine presents a never-before-published interview with the late Dr. Walter Auffenberg. Reptiles Magazine 4:6

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Not trying to through fuel on the fire, but I thought it would be worth knowing who Winston Card actually is. These references were taken from someone elses post on a similar topic.

1. Mahaffey, D and W. Card. 1990. First time captive breeding of the two-striped forest-pitviper Bothriopsis bilineata. AZA Communiqué. August. 1990.
2. Card, W. 1993. “Notes on the Natural History and Husbandry of the Temple Viper,” Vivarium Vol. 5 No. 5
3. Garrett, C.M. and Winston C. Card. 1993. Chemical Discrimination or Prey by Naïve Neonate Gould’s Monitors Varanus Gouldii. Journal of Chemical Ecology. 19(11):2599-2604.
4. Card, W. 1994. Draco Volans Reproduction. Herpetological Review 25(2 ) p.65
5. Card, W. 1994. Double clutching Gould's monitors (Varanus gouldii) and Gray's monitors (Varanus olivaceus) at the Dallas Zoo Herpetological Review 25(3)111;114
6. Card, W. 1994. A reproductive history of monitors at the Dallas Zoo. Vivarium 6(1):26-29
7. 255-265.
8. Card, Winston;Mehaffey, Doug. 1994. A radiographic sexing technique for Heloderma suspectum Herpetological Review 25 1 17-19
9. Card, W. 1994 Just my opinion: A commentary on zoos and the private sector. Iguana Times 3(4):17-19
10. Card, W. 1994. Blotched Blue-Tongued Skink. Vivarium, Vol. 6, No. 3.
11. Card, W. 1994. Notes on the Natural History and Husbandry of the Oriental Fire-Bellied Toad. Reptiles Magazine 4:3.
12. Card, W. 1994. Natural history and husbandry of the shingleback skink (Trachydosaurus rugosus) and the blotched blue-tounged skink (Tiliqua nigrolutea). Vivarium. 6 (3):26-29.
13. Card, W. C. And A. G. Kluge. 1995. Hemipeneal skeleton and varanid lizard systematics. Journal of Herpetology. 29(2):275-280.
14. Card, W. 1995. Rhinoceros viper (Bitis nasicornis). Reptiles Magazine 3(8)8-12
15. Card, Winston. 1995. Captive maintenance & reproduction of Gould's monitor lizard (Varanus gouldii) Reptiles Magazine 3(3):84-91
16. Card, W. 1995. End of an era: an interview with Dr. James B. Murphy. Vivarium 7(1):38-43
17. Card, W. 1995. Gray's monitor lizard (Varanus olivaceus) at the Dallas Zoo. Reptiles Magazine 3(5):78-85
18. Card, W. 1995. Notes on herping in the tropical wet forests of Costa Rica. Vivarium 7(3):30-37
19. Card, W. 1995. Monitor lizard husbandry. Bulletin of the Association of Reptilian Amphibian Veterinarians 5(3):9-17
20. Card, W and Dave T. Roberts. 1996. Incidence of Bites from Venomous Reptiles in North American Zoos. Herpetological Review 27(1):15-17.
21. Card, W. 1997. “Considerations for manipulating artificial environmental parameters for reptiles in captivity” Reptiles Magazine 5(1):66-67
22. Murphy, James B.and Winston Card.1998. A Glimpse into the Life of a Zoo Herpetologist.Herpetological Review 29(2):85–90.
23. Card, W.C.; D. T. Robertsand R. A. Odum. 1998. Does Zoo Herpetology have a Future? Zoo Biology 17(5):453-462.
24. Garrett, C. M.^; Donal M. Boyer^; Winston C. Card^; David T. Roberts^; James B. Murphy^; David Chiszar. 1998. Comparison of chemosensory behavior and prey trail-following in the varanoid lizards Varanus gouldii and Heloderma suspectum. Zoo Biology 15(3):
25. Card, Winstonand James B. Murphy.2000. Lineages and histories of zoo herpetologistsin the United States. Herpetological Circular 27, Society for the Study of Amphibians and Reptiles, Shoreview, Minnesota, iii, 45 pages.
26. Card, Winston; Aucone, Brian. 2000. Bufo murinus (NCN) Predation. Herpetological Review 31(3):117-118.
27. Aucone, Brian; Card, Winston. 2002. Scinax cruentomma (NCN) Predation. Herpetological Review 33(1):48
28. Card, W. 2004. A conversation with Walter Auffenberg. Reptiles Magazine presents a never-before-published interview with the late Dr. Walter Auffenberg. Reptiles Magazine 4:6

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We already know what card is. I've got about a million rat tubs I'm going to go clean the card out of this morning. Doesn't matter how many pictures he's taken or articles he's written, or plagerised, he's still a walking talking pile of crap. A list of what, accomplishments(?), will do nothing to change what he is.

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Not trying to through fuel on the fire, but I thought it would be worth knowing who Winston Card actually is. These references were taken from someone elses post on a similar topic.

1. Mahaffey, D and W. Card. 1990. First time captive breeding of the two-striped forest-pitviper Bothriopsis bilineata. AZA Communiqué. August. 1990.
2. Card, W. 1993. “Notes on the Natural History and Husbandry of the Temple Viper,” Vivarium Vol. 5 No. 5
3. Garrett, C.M. and Winston C. Card. 1993. Chemical Discrimination or Prey by Naïve Neonate Gould’s Monitors Varanus Gouldii. Journal of Chemical Ecology. 19(11):2599-2604.
4. Card, W. 1994. Draco Volans Reproduction. Herpetological Review 25(2 ) p.65
5. Card, W. 1994. Double clutching Gould's monitors (Varanus gouldii) and Gray's monitors (Varanus olivaceus) at the Dallas Zoo Herpetological Review 25(3)111;114
6. Card, W. 1994. A reproductive history of monitors at the Dallas Zoo. Vivarium 6(1):26-29
7. 255-265.
8. Card, Winston;Mehaffey, Doug. 1994. A radiographic sexing technique for Heloderma suspectum Herpetological Review 25 1 17-19
9. Card, W. 1994 Just my opinion: A commentary on zoos and the private sector. Iguana Times 3(4):17-19
10. Card, W. 1994. Blotched Blue-Tongued Skink. Vivarium, Vol. 6, No. 3.
11. Card, W. 1994. Notes on the Natural History and Husbandry of the Oriental Fire-Bellied Toad. Reptiles Magazine 4:3.
12. Card, W. 1994. Natural history and husbandry of the shingleback skink (Trachydosaurus rugosus) and the blotched blue-tounged skink (Tiliqua nigrolutea). Vivarium. 6 (3):26-29.
13. Card, W. C. And A. G. Kluge. 1995. Hemipeneal skeleton and varanid lizard systematics. Journal of Herpetology. 29(2):275-280.
14. Card, W. 1995. Rhinoceros viper (Bitis nasicornis). Reptiles Magazine 3(8)8-12
15. Card, Winston. 1995. Captive maintenance & reproduction of Gould's monitor lizard (Varanus gouldii) Reptiles Magazine 3(3):84-91
16. Card, W. 1995. End of an era: an interview with Dr. James B. Murphy. Vivarium 7(1):38-43
17. Card, W. 1995. Gray's monitor lizard (Varanus olivaceus) at the Dallas Zoo. Reptiles Magazine 3(5):78-85
18. Card, W. 1995. Notes on herping in the tropical wet forests of Costa Rica. Vivarium 7(3):30-37
19. Card, W. 1995. Monitor lizard husbandry. Bulletin of the Association of Reptilian Amphibian Veterinarians 5(3):9-17
20. Card, W and Dave T. Roberts. 1996. Incidence of Bites from Venomous Reptiles in North American Zoos. Herpetological Review 27(1):15-17.
21. Card, W. 1997. “Considerations for manipulating artificial environmental parameters for reptiles in captivity” Reptiles Magazine 5(1):66-67
22. Murphy, James B.and Winston Card.1998. A Glimpse into the Life of a Zoo Herpetologist.Herpetological Review 29(2):85–90.
23. Card, W.C.; D. T. Robertsand R. A. Odum. 1998. Does Zoo Herpetology have a Future? Zoo Biology 17(5):453-462.
24. Garrett, C. M.^; Donal M. Boyer^; Winston C. Card^; David T. Roberts^; James B. Murphy^; David Chiszar. 1998. Comparison of chemosensory behavior and prey trail-following in the varanoid lizards Varanus gouldii and Heloderma suspectum. Zoo Biology 15(3):
25. Card, Winstonand James B. Murphy.2000. Lineages and histories of zoo herpetologistsin the United States. Herpetological Circular 27, Society for the Study of Amphibians and Reptiles, Shoreview, Minnesota, iii, 45 pages.
26. Card, Winston; Aucone, Brian. 2000. Bufo murinus (NCN) Predation. Herpetological Review 31(3):117-118.
27. Aucone, Brian; Card, Winston. 2002. Scinax cruentomma (NCN) Predation. Herpetological Review 33(1):48
28. Card, W. 2004. A conversation with Walter Auffenberg. Reptiles Magazine presents a never-before-published interview with the late Dr. Walter Auffenberg. Reptiles Magazine 4:6

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Four posts here for you Bear1..........and all of them either defending Card or casting aspersions on those who have an issue with him.

I could do a search on Melissa Kraplan and post a similar list..........

Who are you Bear1? Winston Card? An Animal Planet intern who helped Winston Card apply ointment to his string warts? Winston Card's talking left testicle?

Or are you just someone who is stupid enough to think that being published somehow allows you carte blanche to lie and misrepresent your intentions?

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Four posts here for you Bear1..........and all of them either defending Card or casting aspersions on those who have an issue with him.

I could do a search on Melissa Kraplan and post a similar list..........

Who are you Bear1? Winston Card? An Animal Planet intern who helped Winston Card apply ointment to his string warts? Winston Card's talking left testicle?

Or are you just someone who is stupid enough to think that being published somehow allows you carte blanche to lie and misrepresent your intentions?

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Geez, you fellas are a bit testy! Have you never heard the term, "know thy enemy?"

I have never met either individual involved in this nonsense or actually seen the show and I am a little to old to be anyone's intern. Are you Danny Steele?

The fact remains, this guy may be piece of work, many of us are, but he does have a history. I am not sure why you would assume my intent in pointing that history out was to defend him?:colbert:

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Geez, you fellas are a bit testes! Have you never heard the term, "know thy enemy?"

I have never met either individual involved in this nonsense or actually seen the show and I am a little to old to be anyone's intern. Are you Danny Steele?

The fact remains, this guy may be an piece of work, many of us are, but he does have a history. I am not sure why you would assume my intent in pointing that history out was to defend him?:colbert:

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Maybe because you have posted 5 times on this forum and all of these posts have either provided Card's anemic qualifications, have cast the side eye on Ripa or have stated how you don't have much sympathy for Steele. Subtle little comments which all tacitly either support Card or who poke at those who don't.

5 times you've posted on this forum and all 5 times have been in this thread. You walk like a duck, you talk like a duck and if I presented my leg to you, you would probably hump it like a duck. From hereon out, you shall be known as Duck1.

You said testy, hahaha

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Check my re-quote of his quote.;)

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Check my re-quote of his quote.;)

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Hahaha he said testes!!!

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Maybe because you have posted 5 times on this forum and all of these posts have either provided Card's anemic qualifications, have cast the side eye on Ripa or have stated how you don't have much sympathy for Steele. Subtle little comments which all tacitly either support Card or who poke at those who don't.

5 times you've posted on this forum and all 5 times have been in this thread. You walk like a duck, you talk like a duck and if I presented my leg to you, you would probably hump it like a duck. From hereon out, you shall be known as Duck1.

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I see you have posted nearly 3000 times. Not sure what your point is, but here's a thought:

1. Television is pure garbage. I do not own a television and have little respect for anyone that would ever get involved in the industry - subject or host.

2. When I read things that interest me in blogs, chat rooms, or forums posted by angry people, I try and verify the information being provided if its possible to do so. I read Mr. Ripas blog and found it compelling, so I did a little digging and found some odd things on his web page. What of it? The guys a little strange, so what?

I simply cut and pasted that list of references posted above, its information readily avalible. The guys published. What of it?

You sound a bit like an angry teenager. Do you need a hug or perhaps a spanking? :O

Where did this come from. I'm actually close enough to check it out in person. I didn't know that there was ever anything published in Shoreview MN.

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25. Card, Winstonand James B. Murphy.2000. Lineages and histories of zoo herpetologistsin the United States. Herpetological Circular 27, Society for the Study of Amphibians and Reptiles, Shoreview, Minnesota, iii, 45 pages.

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I rest my case.

Before you know it, Mr. Fine Feathered Friend, this thread will die. Since you only know how to post in this thread and this thread alone, I guess we won't be seeing anymore of you.

Unless someone bashes Animal Planet or Winston Card again - then maybe you will "fly" to the rescue.

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Where did this come from. I'm actually close enough to check it out in person. I didn't know that there was ever anything published in Shoreview MN.

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http://www.herplit.com/SSAR/circulars/circulars.html

see #27.

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I rest my case.

Before you know it, Mr. Fine Feathered Friend, this thread will die. Since you only know how to post in this thread and this thread alone, I guess we won't be seeing anymore of you.

Unless someone bashes Animal Planet or Winston Card again - then maybe you will "fly" to the rescue.

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I feel like I am having a conversation with my teenage son. Go clean your room!

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I simply cut and pasted that list of references posted above, its information readily avalible.

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Ahhhh I see, more of a silly goose than a duck, I get it.

You saw something, decided it was 'the real deal' and went crying much like your cousin Chicken Little, to all who would listen.

User Cp
Edit ignore list
enter-chicken little, er ducky wucky, er ignoramus ie bear1


ahhhhh, there we go, the stupid factor has been reduced to a tolerable level

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Ahhhh I see, more of a silly goose than a duck, I get it.

You saw something, decided it was 'the real deal' and went crying much like your cousin Chicken Little, to all who would listen.

User Cp
Edit ignore list
enter-chicken little, er ducky wucky, er ignoramus ie bear1


ahhhhh, there we go, the stupid factor has been reduced to a tolerable level

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How did this forum end up being populated by angry teenagers? The reference is actually correct.

Wilomn can't hear you from over there. I wouldn't dare get any closer to his front porch though...

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Wilomn can't hear you from over there. I wouldn't dare get any closer to his front porch though...

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Still stinging from the last round of rock salt, eh Boyo? lol

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Wilomn can't hear you from over there. I wouldn't dare get any closer to his front porch though...

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I see you have posted nearly 3000 times. Not sure what your point is, but here's a thought:

1. Television is pure garbage. I do not own a television and have little respect for anyone that would ever get involved in the industry - subject or host.

2. When I read things that interest me in blogs, chat rooms, or forums posted by angry people, I try and verify the information being provided if its possible to do so. I read Mr. Ripas blog and found it compelling, so I did a little digging and found some odd things on his web page. What of it? The guys a little strange, so what?

I simply cut and pasted that list of references posted above, its information readily avalible. The guys published. What of it?

You sound a bit like an angry teenager. Do you need a hug or perhaps a spanking? :O

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Is any one else creeped out by the fact that a man calling himself "Bear" asked me if I was a teenager and then offered to hug and spank me?

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Is any one else creeped out by the fact that a man calling himself "Bear" asked me if I was a teenager and then offered to spank me?

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I also offered to hug you, but your clearly need spanking more than you need a hug. :D

He's too young for you smokey, go find another cub to prey on.

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He sits on his porch drinking whiskey and threatening the neighborhood kids. Shaking his fist at the sky angrily!

Well... Taking into consideration your desire to hug and spank teenage boys, you may wanna wait in the bushes near the end of his driveway...

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he sits on his porch drinking whiskey and threatening the neighborhood kids. Shaking his fist at the sky angrily!

Well... Taking into consideration your desire to hug and spank teenage boys, you may wanna wait in the bushes near the end of his driveway...

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lol:)

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I also offered to hug you, but your clearly need spanking more than you need a hug. :D

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Unless you are a hot asian female, the answer is no.

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Unless you are a hot asian female, the answer is no.

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Satomi wants a hug! :rofl:

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Satomi wants a hug! :rofl:

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I'm gonna have to clear it with my hot wife first.:(

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I'm gonna have to clear it with my hot wife first.:(

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Mine may not have dropped, but yours are in your wife's purse! :p

I'd take a spanking from the Skip any day ;)
Maybe his genius will transfer over.

But a hug works too.
The hot wife may also participate if she so desires it.

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Looks like I won't be needing that little blue pill tonight..........

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Well, it's happened all over again folks! I just watched the end of a show on everyone's
favorite animal channel, Animal Planet. They were talking about the risk the father,
(Patrick) was taking with his 2 reticulated pythons (13 '), and 1 burmese python (12'),
and his son who is 8 years old. I forget which state but I think maybe Texas or New
Mexico? What the local authorities were saying, was that Patricks' cages were not safe
enough to keep the snakes controlled enough to keep them from getting out. Similar to
a case that this thread was first created for! Well, bottom line is that Patrick told the
Humane Society and authorities that he was keeping the retic's and burmese. The
authorities convinced him to give all of his snakes up to prevent a possible charge
brought on from DA's office where a Judge would make the decision in his behalf.
Probably would have confiscated his snakes.
Anyhow, I only brought this to everyones attention since it was very similar to Danny's
situation. I hope everyone get's a chance to see it! Now, don't beat me up for bringing
this information to you. Skiploader has my back, so be a little more understanding and
don't shoot the messenger! Thanks!

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Originally Posted by rick*star

Well, it's happened all over again folks! I just watched the end of a show on everyone's
favorite animal channel, Animal Planet. They were talking about the risk the father,
(Patrick) was taking with his 2 reticulated pythons (13 '), and 1 burmese python (12'),
and his son who is 8 years old. I forget which state but I think maybe Texas or New
Mexico? What the local authorities were saying, was that Patricks' cages were not safe
enough to keep the snakes controlled enough to keep them from getting out. Similar to
a case that this thread was first created for! Well, bottom line is that Patrick told the
Humane Society and authorities that he was keeping the retic's and burmese. The
authorities convinced him to give all of his snakes up to prevent a possible charge
brought on from DA's office where a Judge would make the decision in his behalf.
Probably would have confiscated his snakes.
Anyhow, I only brought this to everyones attention since it was very similar to Danny's
situation. I hope everyone get's a chance to see it! Now, don't beat me up for bringing
this information to you. Skiploader has my back, so be a little more understanding and
don't shoot the messenger! Thanks!

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You're a real peach, aren't you?

What do YOU like to enjoy in life? Do you keep dogs? I can point out people who keep dangerous dogs chained up on flimsy chains, or behind fences that are easily jumped or dug under. In fact, as a child, I was attacked by two big dogs who escaped their back yard. Do you like cars? Restoring old cars, maybe, or admiring cool sports cars? I can point out people who race illegally on the streets all the time and put innocent children in danger on a regular basis.

What's my point? There is no point. There's no point in your post either. MAYBE some guy doesn't have adequate caging for his big snakes. MAYBE some idiotic television producer gets his jollies by making it LOOK like the guy is evil. Your post makes no point whatsoever...proves nothing...says nothing....teaches nothing. All it does is demonstrate the truth we all know that there are people in the world who are dead-set on stirring up trouble in whatever small way they can, just to watch the fire burn.

It's like...internet arson...or something....let's pour on some gas and light a spark and see if we get a big boom!

I feel sorry for you...that you seem to have nothing better or more productive to do than this. What a sad, little life.

JLC, you are right on...... I do have a sad little life. I have been going through tough
times retrospecting things I coulda, woulda, and shoulda done. All I was trying to do
here, was not to pass judgement on anyone else, but to bring these kind of situations to
lite. If most of you truly feel that I bring absolutely nothing to this thread, then I will be
happy to oblige you and get out. Instead of beating me up, your anger should be
directed more to the networks (Animal Planet) Judicial system, and various state laws
that are not consistent with each other across the board! Give me a yes or no and I will
be obliged to honor majority rule. Skiploder, where you be when I need you? This Troll
is going...going..going.

Goodbye.

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Originally Posted by rick*star

JLC, you are right on...... I do have a sad little life. I have been going through tough
times retrospecting things I coulda, woulda, and shoulda done. All I was trying to do
here, was not to pass judgement on anyone else, but to bring these kind of situations to
lite. If most of you truly feel that I bring absolutely nothing to this thread, then I will be
happy to oblige you and get out. Instead of beating me up, your anger should be
directed more to the networks (Animal Planet) Judicial system, and various state laws
that are not consistent with each other across the board! Give me a yes or no and I will
be obliged to honor majority rule. Skiploder, where you be when I need you? This Troll
is going...going..going.

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Why would our protests against your trolling indicate that we don't direct our anger at networks like Animal Planet and ridiculous lawmakers?

If you're actually interested in reptiles...the keeping of them, the admiring of them, the natural conservation of them...there's no reason why you can't or shouldn't participate at this site. If your only purpose here is to stir the pot and point fingers at people you know nothing about...then please go.

Go. Go now.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

Go. Go now.

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http://youtu.be/ExYsh1W22Wo
!!!!

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

http://youtu.be/ExYsh1W22Wo
!!!!

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I've always loved that album cover, but I think this is a better song for this situation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4coi65CT1G4

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Originally Posted by MarkS

I've always loved that album cover, but I think this is a better song for this situation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4coi65CT1G4

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Um... Nah, ill stick with the cars lol...

You must be a dad! :p

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

Um... Nah, ill stick with the cars lol...

You must be a dad! :p

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Yeah, but the boys are 19 and 21 now, they stopped listening to those types of songs quite a while ago (though I can still remember of lot of them even now. Repetition is a great teaching tool.)

It was really more of a comment on my estimation of 'Mr Stars' age.