Being fair about PetSmart (and buying your ball python from them)

Just found the perfect thing. its an old reusable beverage pitcher, itll fit her water and her sock and still leave her some room to move around. and it has a screw top with holes already in it from housing rescued mice =D

Er....the mice smell wont bother her will it?

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Just found the perfect thing. its an old reusable beverage pitcher, itll fit her water and her sock and still leave her some room to move around. and it has a screw top with holes already in it from housing rescued mice =D

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Sounds good!! I would keep it somewhere warm and put a towel over it, just so she feels extra secure.

Great =D Can't get anywhere till about noon but after that imma go fuss at that one chick if shes still working >~>

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thing is, i had a heat lamp, she just said it wasn't good enough :/ "you need a DAYLIGHT bulb as well as a NIGHTTIME bulb, or you could seriously hurt your snake"

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I would return the other Heat lamp and daylight bulb too. They may give you a hard time about the bulb, but show the purchase was made yesterday and let them know you were sold the wrong stuff by an unqualified sales agent. Keep your original lamp with the night bulb (depending on wattage). I have Django in a 20 gallon right now with the UTH and a 75 watt night bulb. If your bulb isn't the right wattage they should let you swap it out no problem since you were sold the wrong crap.

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Great =D Can't get anywhere till about noon but after that imma go fuss at that one chick if shes still working >~>

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Hahahaha, I hear ya. Probably not really her fault though. She shouldn't be selling reptiles if she has no knowledge of them, let alone a fear of them. She was probably just doing her job. I would probably say management is to blame, unless of course, she just BS'd you all on her own. They have key codes to the enclosures though, so somebody in management is giving her access to animals she knows nothing about.

i have a small one that i used to use to keep the ratties warm in winter. Given what you guys have told me, and how well it worked for them, im 98% sure it will be sufficient until i can order that heatpad and then it will be more than enough =D not only that but with her heat lamp off atm its still 84F over by her tank x.x

I did feel kinda bad for her when she was so scared she had to hand me Hecate on a branch though....kinda like me and spiders.

Ok, then you might as well keep the lamp you originally had. It should be sufficient considering the room temp. You may not even need it once the UTH is all set. Just be sure it can handle the wattage of the bulb, which probably a 50 watt (not too sure on this, have no experience there) would do with your ambient room temps.

i think its max is 60watt, and i was skeptical about the whole need a powerful heatlamp thing cuz my house runs warm all the time :/ she wouldnt listen...i hate rethinking that cuz the more i think about it the more it feels pushy rather than helpful.

Wonder if theyre hiring...o-0

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i think its max is 60watt, and i was skeptical about the whole need a powerful heatlamp thing cuz my house runs warm all the time :/ she wouldnt listen...i hate rethinking that cuz the more i think about it the more it feels pushy rather than helpful.

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Yeah, I think they are trained to sell....and I have actually applied to my local one, hoping I could help change/improve their reptile department and possibly the fish department too. But I wasn't hired. Their loss...

I prolly wouldnt be hired either. Even if their rodent department could seriously use my help. lol

They're missing out!

no joke :P especially as theyre all in wood chips. BEYOND stupid.

I was PO'd the other day. I went into my local Petco and noticed they had a green tree python. I was amazed that they had something as "exotic" as a GTP. They had one plant on a reptile carpet. No perch, nothing for the snake to climb on. They are arboreal animals who spent the vast majority of their lives off the ground. This animal was stuck with no choice but the ground

Thats so sad D= in a situation like that idve prolly bought it just to help it.

If I had the cash and the OK from the girlfriend I would have thought about it, but they would have just filled the empty space with another animal

Yes, but probably not another ground bound thing thats supposed to be free to climb. I hate pet shops, i really do. The animals sit in tiny cages that even the store itself doesnt recommend, and i dont even wanna think about what happens if no one ever buys them.

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no joke :P especially as theyre all in wood chips. BEYOND stupid.

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I keep all 60 of my rats on aspen lol whats wrong with wood chips?

Well, other than that inhaling the fumes and such from wood chips shortens their life spans by quite a bit, that they can chew and sometimes choke on them, that they get splinters, which can get infected if theyre stubborn little butts about it, absolutely nothing .-.

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Well, other than that inhaling the fumes and such from wood chips shortens their life spans by quite a bit, that they can chew and sometimes choke on them, that they get splinters, which can get infected if theyre stubborn little butts about it, absolutely nothing .-.

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You are thinking of cedar and non-kiln dried pine. Aspen is completely fine for the little furry punks. If Deborah chimes in shes been keeping her breeding stock on kiln dried pine for many many years.

the aspen I use has never given me a spinter, I run my hands through it daily. As for chewing on it...I've never seen them do that, but I give them plenty of sticks, veggies and fruits to occupy them.

well if it works for you i guess .-. never seen it end well otherwise. always ends up with some kind of lung infection

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well if it works for you i guess .-. never seen it end well otherwise. always ends up with some kind of lung infection

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If my rats start keeling over shortly I'll let you know haha. I'm more concerned about the pair of females that had 30 freakin' babies and now I have to start culling/selling all these dang youngin's haha. My other pair did great, only 20 haha that was manageable. the other 10 make a tub so much smaller lol

Gonna take a wild guess and say you sell as feeders @~@

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Gonna take a wild guess and say you sell as feeders @~@

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little bit of this, little bit of that haha. I mostly breed for my own snakes, so much cheaper in the long run when I can have 50 rats in the freezer ready to roll after 1.5 months. I do sell live same sex pairs to people who want well cared for rats as pets, but its mostly my snakes' food source and as I grow the operation into producing 150/week roughly it will be a feeder business on the side.

annnnnd one of the aspects of snake ownership im not looking forward to x.x i love rats and mice.

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annnnnd one of the aspects of snake ownership im not looking forward to x.x i love rats and mice.

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Was my least favorite part at first too. It gets easier. Then it just becomes routine, as if it's any other meal for any other animal. But still fascinating to watch!

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annnnnd one of the aspects of snake ownership im not looking forward to x.x i love rats and mice.

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oh me too, but you have to, I repeat, HAVE TO separate the two loves in your mind. I love my snakes, and I love my breeding rats, but I cannot get attached to any of the youngin's. My one breeder male, Benny, waits for me to open the tub so he can practically fly out and run to the top of the rack and play tag with me lol.

I'm going to have to mentally convince myself im preparing and giving them a piece of chicken. Not even joking.

I'm not saying i wont do it, as you said i have to, im just glad im doing frozen not live.

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I'm not saying i wont do it, as you said i have to, im just glad im doing frozen not live.

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pray once your snake addiction fully takes hold that your next one isn't a picky live only feeder then lol.

ooohhhh no, this is the only snake. im too OCD to have more than one.


it owuld be the equivalent of shooting myself in the foot and going omg this is fun!

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ooohhhh no, this is the only snake. im too OCD to have more than one.

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ya...every single human on this forum said that at one point. "I swear just one!" haha.

lol its stressful now, but once you get the husbandry and schedules locked in you are going to say wow this is easy...they only eat once every week or 10 days...I can handle 1...2...8 more no issue...

Other than cost of course. Did my math, can afford Hecate, but i swear one more animal in this house and i will shoot my fiance

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Other than cost of course. Did my math, can afford Hecate, but i swear one more animal in this house and i will shoot my fiance

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hahaha "honey, I bought a SECOND snake and its YOUR FAULT!" hahaha I'm telling you...it'll happen...you wait lol. Snakes are the hard drug of the animal world lol.

all joking aside I hope you get everything you need for Hecate, she will be a pleasure to own once you get every synched up!

Finishing off that shopping list this afternoon, and returning the useless stuff they sold me. turns out that thermometer was broken.

as for another snake, HE would have to feed it. and he couldnt do it

ran cold water next to it, temp stayed at 90, and humidity stayed at 70%. Useless.

Guys, can you help her?

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...ven-wrong-info



even after all the info youve given me i think youd do better at it than i could :P

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Guys, can you help her?

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...ven-wrong-info



even after all the info youve given me i think youd do better at it than i could :P

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lol I found it while lurking, no worries its answered.

Great =D one more happy slithery friend thanks to you guys <3 idk what idve done without the help you guys gave me. Annnnnd now i go to b**** out that lady at petsmart.


Edit:If i end up in jail, i totally didnt do whatever it is they say i did XD

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Other than cost of course. Did my math, can afford Hecate, but i swear one more animal in this house and i will shoot my fiance

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Ha! That's cute... You'll have another snake in less than 6 months ;)
I always say snakes are like tattoos, I don't know many people with only one. And most who have one, have at least a few...

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Other than cost of course. Did my math, can afford Hecate, but i swear one more animal in this house and i will shoot my fiance

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Ha! That's cute... You'll have another snake in less than 6 months ;)
I always say snakes are like tattoos, I don't know many people with only one. And most who have one, have at least a few...

Except i have no tattoos and i am a master of self control O-O unless it comes to my OCD then it controls me with disastrous results

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hahaha "honey, I bought a SECOND snake and its YOUR FAULT!" hahaha I'm telling you...it'll happen...you wait lol. Snakes are the hard drug of the animal world lol.

all joking aside I hope you get everything you need for Hecate, she will be a pleasure to own once you get every synched up!

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Hahaha, yup!! You'll have a second snake within 6 months ;)
I always say, snakes are like tattoos, hardly anybody has just one, and those who have them, usually have at least a few...

And PredatorKeeper is right, once you're dialed in you'll love owning a snake.

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ran cold water next to it, temp stayed at 90, and humidity stayed at 70%. Useless.

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These are 3 dollars off eBay http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...d5808fb896.jpg

These digital temp guns are about 12 dollars off eBay
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...0bfba2c86b.jpg

what are "these"? o-o


oh i see, the images didnt want to load. The handheld one is already on my list, and i found a digital humidity thingie and thermometer combo on amazon cheap <3

NOWWW im off to the petshop where i was ripped off to chew them a new head and get Hecate a better hidey hole. Finally found the dang receipt.....was under her tank for some odd reason.

Receipts always hide in the WEIRDEST places.

Weirdest of weird. I still dont entirely understand how it ended up under her tank when i was just looking at it last night.

I almost forgot to put Hecate in that other bin. That would have been a catastrophe.