Let's Play a Friendly Genetics Game

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Originally Posted by wuffielover

Axanthic Yellowbelly x Super Stripe Het. Axanthic

100% het Axanthics
Yellowbellies 100% het Axanthics
Ivories 100% het Axanthic
Superstripes 100% het Axanthic
Axanthics
Axanthic Yellowbellies
Axanthic Spectors
Axanthic Ivories
Axanthic Superstripes

And, depending on how the gene/allele thing turns out with the Yellowbellies and Spectors (I think it's still unknown as of now?) you could also get:

Ivory Superstripes 100% het Axanthic
Axanthic Ivory Superstripes

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I taught the Superstripe is the combo from YB and Spector, both being on the same allele ?

meaning :

1/8 : Axanthic Spector
1/8 : Axanthic YB
1/8 : Axanthic Super Stripe
1/8 : Axanthic Ivory
1/8 : het axanthic Spector
1/8 : het axanthic YB
1/8 : het axanthic Super Stripe
1/8 : het axanthic Ivory

am I wrong ? or what am I missing here ?

Round 31:

* Het Red Axanthic Fire x Het. Red Axanthic Black Pastel

1/16 Red Axanthic Fire Black Pastel
1/16 Red Axanthic Fire
1/16 Red Axanthic Black Pastel
1/16 Red Axanthic
1/8 het Red Axanthic Fire Black Pastel
1/8 het red Axanthic Fire
1/8 het red Axanthic Black Pastel
1/8 het red axanthic
1/16 fire black pastel
1/16 fire
1/16 black pastel
1/16 normal

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Originally Posted by Watever

I taught the Superstripe is the combo from YB and Spector, both being on the same allele ?

meaning :

1/8 : Axanthic Spector
1/8 : Axanthic YB
1/8 : Axanthic Super Stripe
1/8 : Axanthic Ivory
1/8 : het axanthic Spector
1/8 : het axanthic YB
1/8 : het axanthic Super Stripe
1/8 : het axanthic Ivory

am I wrong ? or what am I missing here ?

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So far Super Stripe x Normal breeding's have produced: Specters, Yellow Bellies & Normals.

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Originally Posted by Watever

Round 31:

* Het Red Axanthic Fire x Het. Red Axanthic Black Pastel

1/16 Red Axanthic Fire Black Pastel
1/16 Red Axanthic Fire
1/16 Red Axanthic Black Pastel
1/16 Red Axanthic
1/8 het Red Axanthic Fire Black Pastel
1/8 het red Axanthic Fire
1/8 het red Axanthic Black Pastel
1/8 het red axanthic
1/16 fire black pastel
1/16 fire
1/16 black pastel
1/16 normal

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Correct!!!

Round 32:

• Super Pastel Lesser Platinum x Hypo Super Black Pastel

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Originally Posted by AaronP

So far Super Stripe x Normal breeding's have produced: Specters, Yellow Bellies & Normals.

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and Super Stripe to ivory have produced Super Stripe and Ivory if my memory is right.

meaning they are on the same loci.

so isn't my answer good ? lol

hi,

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Originally Posted by AaronP

Correct!!!

Round 32:

• Super Pastel Lesser Platinum x Hypo Super Black Pastel

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50% black pewters het ghost
50% lesser platinum black pewters het ghost (no idea if this has been made and named )

Is that right?


dr del

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Originally Posted by AaronP

Correct!!!

Round 32:

• Super Pastel Lesser Platinum x Hypo Super Black Pastel

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Pastel black pastel (aka Black Pewter) Lesser het hypo
Pastel black pastel (aka Black Pewter) het hypo

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Originally Posted by Watever

and Super Stripe to ivory have produced Super Stripe and Ivory if my memory is right.

meaning they are on the same loci.

so isn't my answer good ? lol

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Spector Yellow Belly x Yellow Belly is going to produce Ivories because Yellow Belly is on both ends of the spectrum. But you can't produce a Super Stripe Ivory by breeding Specter Yellow Belly x Yellow Belly.

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Originally Posted by dr del

50% black pewters het ghost
50% lesser platinum black pewters het ghost (no idea if this has been made and named )

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you beat me to it damn you ! :)

and yes, even the black pewter lesser ghost have been created this year

From East Cost Reptile Breeders (Colin weaver)
http://ballpythonbreeder.com/wp-cont...lackpewter.jpg

you are right, you can't produce spector ivory cause they are on the same loci.

Just like you can't produce a Lesser Super Mojave. no ?

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Originally Posted by dr del

hi,



50% black pewters het ghost
50% lesser platinum black pewters het ghost (no idea if this has been made and named )

Is that right?


dr del

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Correct!!!

Round 33:

• Mystic x Pastel Mystic

Wow, :tongue2:

Quick someone give me a pastel ghost and a time machine. :banana:


dr del

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Originally Posted by Watever

you are right, you can't produce spector ivory cause they are on the same loci.

Just like you can't produce a Lesser Super Mojave. no ?

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The genetics aren't totally understood yet.

Here's what we know so far based off current breedings, my information comes from Tom Carlton & Brian Barcyzk:
Super Stripe x Normal Produces:
Specters
Yellow Bellies
Normals

Super Stripes cannot reproduce themselves without either a Spector or Yellow Belly on both ends (as in if you Breed Super Stripe x Yellow Belly you can produce super stripes because the female is a Yellow Belly).

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you are right, you can't produce spector ivory cause they are on the same loci.

Just like you can't produce a Lesser Super Mojave. no ?

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I know this is getting OT, but the reason there is still some doubt about the Yellowbelly and Spector being on the same loci is because, as AaronP said, Superstripe x Normal breedings produce normal offspring in addition to YBs and Spectors. You don't see this when breeding, say, a Blue Eyed Leucistic which was made from a Mojave and Lesser to a Normal- you only get Mojaves and Lessers in the resulting clutch. If Spector and Yellowbelly are on the same allele in the same way the Mojave and Lesser are, then when breeding a Superstripe to a normal you should produce ONLY YBs and Spectors. That's why I added the caveat to my answer. Crazy weird genes :rolleye2:

ANYWAY Mystic x Pastel Mystic

Normals
Pastels
Pastel Mystics
Pastel Super Mystics
Super Mystics

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Originally Posted by wuffielover

ANYWAY Mystic x Pastel Mystic

Normals
Pastels
Pastel Mystics
Pastel Super Mystics
Super Mystics

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You forgot Mystics.
-Steven

Darn, so I did :P

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Originally Posted by AaronP

Here's what we know so far based off current breedings, my information comes from Tom Carlton & Brian Barcyzk:
Super Stripe x Normal Produces:
Specters
Yellow Bellies
Normals

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I didn't know they produced normals when bred to normal. Euhm... really weird then ! I taught the normals looking were specters.

I think we gonna need to have someone breed a Super Spector to a Ivory and see what happens. If you have all super stripe and if then, when one of these is breed to a normal, you get all super stripe, it will mean they are both different allele and you need both. But not being able to produce ivory is weird then...

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Originally Posted by Watever

I didn't know they produced normals when bred to normal. Euhm... really weird then ! I taught the normals looking were specters.

I think we gonna need to have someone breed a Super Spector to a Ivory and see what happens. If you have all super stripe and if then, when one of these is breed to a normal, you get all super stripe, it will mean they are both different allele and you need both. But not being able to produce ivory is weird then...

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Super Stripe x Ivory will produce this:

Yellowbellies
Ivories
Super Stripes

I was waiting for someone to give the right answer in 1 post but that didn't happen, though wuffie was close.

Round 34:

• Ultramel x Black Axanthic

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Originally Posted by AaronP

Ultramel x Black Axanthic[/LIST]

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All 100% double het Ultramel and Black axanthic

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

All 100% double het Ultramel and Black axanthic

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Correct!!!

Round 35:

• Vanilla Spider x Fire Woma

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Originally Posted by AaronP

Vanilla Spider x Fire Woma

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Normal
Vanilla
Fire
Spider
Woma
Woma Spider
Fire Woma
Fire Spider
Vanilla Spider
Vanilla Fire
Vanilla Woma
Vanilla Spider Woma
Vanilla Spider Fire
Fire Spider Woma
Fire Vanilla Woma
Fire Vanilla Woma

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

Normal
Vanilla
Fire
Spider
Woma
Woma Spider
Fire Woma
Fire Spider
Vanilla Spider
Vanilla Fire
Vanilla Woma
Vanilla Spider Woma
Vanilla Spider Fire
Fire Spider Woma
Fire Vanilla Woma
Fire Vanilla Woma

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Correct!!!

Round 36:

• Super Pastel x Hypo

all babies will be pastel het for hypo?

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Originally Posted by jjmitchell

all babies will be pastel het for hypo!

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:banana::banana::banana:

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Originally Posted by jjmitchell

all babies will be pastel het for hypo?

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Correct!!!

Round 37:

• Hypo Caramel x 100% Double Het. Hypo Caramel

Hmmm,

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Originally Posted by AaronP

Correct!!!

Round 37:

• Hypo Caramel x 100% Double Het. Hypo Caramel

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Bit more complicated but I think this is it,

Hypo het caramel
Caramel het hypo
Hypo caramel
Normals 100% double het hypo caramel


dr del

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hmmm,



Bit more complicated but I think this is it,

Hypo het caramel
Caramel het hypo
Hypo caramel
Normals 100% double het hypo caramel


dr del

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Correct!!!

Round 38:

• Genetic Stripe x Super Stripe

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Originally Posted by AaronP

Correct!!!

Round 38:

• Genetic Stripe x Super Stripe

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All double het g-stripe super stripes?

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Originally Posted by AaronP

Genetic Stripe x Super Stripe

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100% het g-stripe
yellow belly 100% het g-stripe
Spector 100% het g-stripe

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

100% het g-stripe
yellow belly 100% het g-stripe
Spector 100% het g-stripe

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Correct!!!

Round 39:

• Clown Het. Albino x Het. Albino

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Originally Posted by AaronP

Clown Het. Albino x Het. Albino

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100% het clown that is 66% pos het albino
Albino 100% clown

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

100% het clown that is 66% pos het albino
Albino 100% clown

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Correct!!!

Round 40:

• Lesser Spider x Super Pastel

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Originally Posted by AaronP

Correct!!!

Round 40:

• Lesser Spider x Super Pastel

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Pastel
Pastel Lesser
Bumblebee
Queen bee

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Originally Posted by Mike@OutbackReptiles

Pastel
Pastel Lesser
Bumblebee
Queen bee

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Correct!!!

Round 41:

• Killer Bee x King Pin (Lesser Pinstripe)

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Originally Posted by AaronP

[*]Killer Bee x King Pin (Lesser Pinstripe)

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Pastel
Pastel Pinstripe(lemon blast)
Pastel Lesser
Pastel Lesser Pinstripe(Kingpin Blast)
Pastel Lesser Spider(Pastel Lesserbee)
Pastel Spider Pinstripe(Spinner Blast)

Killer Bee x King Pin (Lesser Pinstripe)

Pastel
Bumblebee
Lemon Blast
Pastel Lesser
Spinner Bee
Pastel Lesser Spider
Pastel Lesser Pinstripe
Pastel Lesser Spinner

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Originally Posted by wuffielover

Killer Bee x King Pin (Lesser Pinstripe)

Pastel
Bumblebee
Lemon Blast
Pastel Lesser
Spinner Bee
Pastel Lesser Spider
Pastel Lesser Pinstripe
Pastel Lesser Spinner

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Correct!!!

Round 42:

• Super Sable Pinstripe x Sugar

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Originally Posted by AaronP

Correct!!!

Round 42:

• Super Sable Pinstripe x Sugar

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Sable pinstripe
Sable Sugar
Sable

Have any of those two been made by the way? - the sable sugar miglt look very intresting. I vote we call it a treacle. :rofl:


dr del

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Originally Posted by dr del

Sable pinstripe
Sable Sugar
Sable

Have any of those two been made by the way? - the sable sugar miglt look very intresting. I vote we call it a treacle. :rofl:


dr del

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Correct!!!

IDK but I think a Super Sable Sugar would be HOT.

Round 43:

• Super Calico x Super Pastel

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Originally Posted by AaronP

Super Calico x Super Pastel

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All pastel calico cuties :)

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

All pastel calico cuties :)

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Correct!!!

IDK but I think a Super Sable Sugar would be HOT.

Round 44:

• Albino Clown Het. Hypo x Hypo Genetic Stripe Het. Albino

When this game becomes UN "friendly" Big Gunns may play. We all know Big Gunns prefers those type of games.:D

Albino Clown Het. Hypo x Hypo Genetic Stripe Het. Albino

Quadruple Het Albino, Clown, Hypo, and Genetic Stripe
Albinos het Clown, Hypo, and Genetic Stripe
Hypos het Albino, Clown, and Genetic Stripe
Hypo Albinos het Clown and Genetic Stripe

Round 44:

* Albino Clown Het. Hypo x Hypo Genetic Stripe Het. Albino

Normals that are 100% het for albino, clown, g-stripe and hypo
Albinos that are 100% het for Clown and Hypo and Genetic Stripe
Hypos that are 100% het for Albino and Clown and Genetic Stripe
Hypo Albino that is 100% het for Clown and Genetic Stripe
Hypo G-stripe that is 100% het for albino and clown
Albino hypo g-stripe that is 100% het for clown
Albino g-stripe that is 100% het for hypo and clown

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

Round 44:

* Albino Clown Het. Hypo x Hypo Genetic Stripe Het. Albino

Normals that are 100% het for albino, clown, g-stripe and hypo
Albinos that are 100% het for Clown and Hypo and Genetic Stripe
Hypos that are 100% het for Albino and Clown and Genetic Stripe
Hypo Albino that is 100% het for Clown and Genetic Stripe
Hypo G-stripe that is 100% het for albino and clown
Albino hypo g-stripe that is 100% het for clown
Albino g-stripe that is 100% het for hypo and clown

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No G-Stripes are possible from that pairing Jerry.

Albino Hypo Het Clown Het G-Stripe
Albino Het Hypo Het Clown Het G-Stripe
Hypo Het Albino Het Clown Het G-Stripe
Het Hypo Het Albino Het clown Het G-Stripe

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Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent

No G-Stripes are possible from that pairing Jerry.

Albino Hypo Het Clown Het G-Stripe
Albino Het Hypo Het Clown Het G-Stripe
Hypo Het Albino Het Clown Het G-Stripe
Het Hypo Het Albino Het clown Het G-Stripe

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A guy can wish can't he :P

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Originally Posted by wuffielover

Albino Clown Het. Hypo x Hypo Genetic Stripe Het. Albino

Quadruple Het Albino, Clown, Hypo, and Genetic Stripe
Albinos het Clown, Hypo, and Genetic Stripe
Hypos het Albino, Clown, and Genetic Stripe
Hypo Albinos het Clown and Genetic Stripe

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Correct!!!

Sorry that took so long, been very busy.

Round 45:

• Desert Enchi x Super Pastel

pastel
pastel enchi
pastel desert enchi
pastel desert