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Pied brothers....

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  • 08-21-2009, 11:02 PM
    SilverWolf
    Re: Pied brothers....
    WOW! I'm speechless. :tongue2: I so wish I had a pied. Congratulations! :gj:
  • 08-21-2009, 11:07 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Pied brothers....
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    First, congratulations on producing such hot animals!

    Second - I really want to know more about your thought on this - I'm intrigued!!!!:D

    Agreed on both points!
  • 08-21-2009, 11:42 PM
    RandyRemington
    Re: Pied brothers....
    Very nice. Any relationship to Raul Gomez's line (either on the pied side or that "normal" female's side)?

    I've often wondered if the lines of pied with more co-dominant tendencies would tend to produce higher whites. But does either the tendency to show in hets or the tendency to produce high white pieds come from variations in the pied mutation or from other genes in some lines or are they unrelated and either or both really random?

    It does look like Graziani might have a fully co-dominant pied allele in the leopards but excluding those the sporadic het indicator belly in other pied lines is a very interesting can of worms.
  • 08-22-2009, 08:34 AM
    Joe_Compel
    Re: Pied brothers....
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    First, congratulations on producing such hot animals!

    Second - I really want to know more about your thought on this - I'm intrigued!!!!:D

    Incomplete dominant (or maybe even semi dominant or partial dominant) might be a better fit. It might be a better fit for many morphs.
  • 08-22-2009, 09:00 AM
    Joe_Compel
    Re: Pied brothers....
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RandyRemington View Post
    Very nice. Any relationship to Raul Gomez's line (either on the pied side or that "normal" female's side)?

    I'll take a look. There is a good chance that there is.
    I sold him a "possible possible" het pied male years ago. (offspring from a 50% possible het pied to normal pairing.....kids now a days have it easy;) ) Wouldn't you know that he sees the project though and produces pieds from it......old school.
    The dam to the pieds pictured was a "possible possible" het too. I proved her out a couple of years back. But unlike Raul, I cheated and ran a male pied to her;)
    She could very well be a clutchmate to Raul's.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RandyRemington View Post
    I've often wondered if the lines of pied with more co-dominant tendencies would tend to produce higher whites.

    ME TOO. That's kind of where I was going before but I don't think co-dominant is fitting.
  • 08-22-2009, 10:44 AM
    rabernet
    Re: Pied brothers....
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Joe_Compel View Post
    Incomplete dominant (or maybe even semi dominant or partial dominant) might be a better fit. It might be a better fit for many morphs.

    I'm still lost! LOL :oops:
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