Python Rope A Dope

I no longer support USARK. I no longer donate to their cause. And I have requested a reimbursement of all monies donated in the past. Why? Simple. They have sold me out.. sold out my beloved Python molurus bivittatus. And I doubt they will stop with my choice of reptile.. yours is next!

That very old adage, "Give 'em an inch.. they'll take a mile.. " comes to mind :colbert:

I was very happy when I heard of usark. I was glad that finally someone had rose up to fight for the reptile community and I stood behind them 100 percent until I got my email that gave me a copy and paste letter that agreed to ban the importing of burmese pythons. When I recieved that my thoughts about usark changed.

I agree with colin 100 percent. I do believe there need to be restrictions so not your everday joe can just decide to pick up a large snake or a hot or a croc. But I also do not believe in stoping the importing of them either. Just thank of what the reaction would be if that letter that usark sent out said they agree to ban the importing of ball pythons! There would mass hysteria. Usark would be no more. No one would support them. Just look at burms now they have been so inbred its not even funny. You see them with kinks and all kinds of problems. We need imported burms for new blood to mix with our blood that is already here. What if a new morph is discovered and we have no way of ever getting it here!
I called today I have wrote emails but I wrote my own letter supporting all herpers no matter what you keep from a frog to anaconda I support the entire community. And I will fight for everyone. I personally wrote andrew and asked him why and he sent me a copy and paste letter from kingsnake he had posted and I sent him a reply to that and never heard back from him.
We should all be fighting the laws together and not giving up any of our animals. We are all in the same hobby no matter what we keep be it a burm or a ball or a cobra we all share the same passion and should have everyones back. Not throw anyone under the bus

Well all I can say is thank god.
All I have heard for the last month or so since I voiced my opinion on U.S.A.R.K. was how I was a horrible person and when I told Burmese Python Keepers that may have supported U.S.A.R.K. to demand their money back I was told that I should support these guys and stop bashing them.

I am so glad to see a few people over here on a Ball Python forum that see them for what they are.

Thank you Colin for giving my wife and I faith in the people outside of the Burm world again...

By the way everyone I am Sam Bearden my wife and I Raise, Keep and Breed Burmese Pythons and we love everyone of them like a pet.

My wife is a member of this forum and I only joined up to post this thank you to Colin for his post.

My wife is Burmmamma(who'd a thunk it humm) anyway Colin Thanks.

You guys have a really nice forum but I will leave my wife to the posting over here we try to stay on seperate forums because we have our own and we see each other enough there.
Take care.

USARK doesn't WANT Burmese pythons banned, they want importation banned. That doesn't include captive breeding and sale. Simply banning the importation won't be the end of burm trade although yes, it will downsize it dramatically. But with a drop in supply usually comes an increase in value... USARK won't be happy with adding them to the Lacey act or outright banning them. I heard those words straight from Andrew Wyatts mouth on Reptile Radio just last night.

I don't think that equates to throwing burms under the bus. It's the polititions you need to be angry with not USARK. Think about this too, if USARK wasn't spreading the word, would we have even gotten a big enough response to have an impact?
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Originally Posted by Hulihzack

USARK doesn't WANT Burmese pythons banned, they want importation banned. That doesn't include captive breeding and sale. Simply banning the importation won't be the end of burm trade although yes, it will downsize it dramatically. But with a drop in supply usually comes an increase in value... USARK won't be happy with adding them to the Lacey act or outright banning them. I heard those words straight from Andrew Wyatts mouth on Reptile Radio just last night.

I don't think that equates to throwing burms under the bus. It's the polititions you need to be angry with not USARK. Think about this too, if USARK wasn't spreading the word, would we have even gotten a big enough response to have an impact?
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Usark shouldnt want anything banned import or captive breeding! They are suppose to be fighting for us. It would ruin the burm market. I know its not as profitable as other markets in the herp industry but once the morphs we have now are bred with the hypos and the blondes then that will be it.

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Originally Posted by Denial

Usark shouldnt want anything banned import or captive breeding! They are suppose to be fighting for us. It would ruin the burm market. I know its not as profitable as other markets in the herp industry but once the morphs we have now are bred with the hypos and the blondes then that will be it.

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The all or nothing approach is not wise.

They don't want anything banned. But given the amount of negative media already out there and their experience in their field, I trust him when he says "It's just not going to happen" in regards to getting -nothing- banned. You gotta remember that the polititians who will amend this are still going to do whatever will get Joe Blow and the rest of the brutally misinformed public to vote him back into office, and by this point, I think it's unreasonable to expect a complete revocation of a ban of any type. Trust me I'd love nothing more than to see them drop it entirely but let's be real here, it's not going to happen.

I urge everyone to go to Reptile Radio and listen to last night's show, at least the part with Andrew Wyatt. He's on our side and I think we would be truly screwed without him.

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Originally Posted by bsd13

The all or nothing approach is not wise.

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Yes. Thank you.

Do you really think if they ban importing burms it will stop at burms?

Until a poorly kept retic kills a toddler instead