Help me ID my Het BELs

On second thought, they look like 3 normals. You've been had, send them to me for positive ID.

No doubt unless they are poor examples of the morph.

1: Mojave
2: Lesser (and a hot one at that)
3: Mojave

I'm far from an expert....and I have my own opinion about the whole lesser/butter issue. But since you want to know why folks guessed as they did, I'll tell you my thoughts.

1. First picture I immediately thought "mojo" because of the somewhat "floaty" affect on the pattern, and the brown coloring that lacks any yellow. When I saw the second picture, I thought "HOT mojo!" :D Beautiful flames and blushing...but still looks like a mojo to me. The hints of yellow I see in the second picture aren't in the right place of the pattern to be a lesser.

2. I thought "lesser" right away when I saw the first picture. Beautiful faded blushing all along the back pattern and nice shadings of yellow in the alien heads. And what spots he has are light in color, rather than dark. To me, a butter shows a lot more yellow in the pattern and tend to be brighter than lessers....but I'm still not convinced they're actually two separate morphs, but rather, two variants of the same morph...just like normals can be light or dark or high yellow, but they're all still normals. That's just my inexperienced opinion, though.

3. Seems like most everyone agrees this one is mojo. Not a doubt in my mind when I saw the picture. Floaty pattern, rich brown colors, lots of light coloration/flames on the sides. Not quite as hot as #1...but definitely a beauty!

1. Looks like a very dark Mojo or a Butter.
2. Lesser
3. Mojo

I hope I don't miss it when she posts what she bought them as. ;)

I'm about as far as you can get from an expert, but my guess from what I've seen is:

#1: Lesser? I find it hard to see the difference in some, but I picked Lesser because of the lighter greenish-yellow colors and the light brown. Although some mojaves are light that I've seen.

#2: Butter - Lighter browns, but I'm puzzled because the pattern is going from brown up top to yellow towards the belly instead of yellow at the top turning brown towards the belly.

#3: Mojave - There's no doubt, classic mojave. Dark browns, light blushing, mojo pattern.

Again, I don't know much, but that's my guess.

1 butter or lesser
2 lesser
3 mojave

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Originally Posted by Corvid

When I get a few more opinions :) I would like to know why people think the way they do. We just may spark a great conversation on what specific qualities of each morph each one posses and what people look for. I cannot tell butters v. lessers apart to save my life. Recently I saw a very dark so-called lesser, now I'm just confused...

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basically butters have more gold coloring, as adults they differ a little more. but theres examples of each looking like the other, i think pastel adults are worse, some pastel adults just look normal to me, while some normals are just glowing.

You know, I was thinking that I am sick of trying to figure out what's what, and should get rid of them. Thank goodness I've got someone like you to take them off my hands!! ;)
Well, maybe I shouldn't.....My husband would KILL me!!!

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Originally Posted by herpenthusiast

On second thought, they look like 3 normals. You've been had, send them to me for positive ID.

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Thank you EVERYONE for your input. But I'm still confused and don't know what I should sell their offspring (when/if they come in 2010) as....

I bought #1 from Craig'slist as a Mojo. I won't post her price because everyone will hate me.

I got #2 from an expo as a Lesser. Again, I got a STEAL on this snake. I don't look for cheap snakes, I look for good snakes, the price is just a very nice bonus. He will be bred to both #1 and #3, I am interested to see the difference in the BELs when/if they come.

I got #3 as a mojo (SHOCK!) ;)

I want to be a good, honest, high quality breeder. So when I go to sell BELs from #1x#2 I don't know what I should mark them as. Should I try to sell them as lesserxlesser, butterxlesser or mojoxlesser?

What would YOU do if these were your snakes?
By no means do I want to lie to or mislead my buyer.