need help confused setting up incubator

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Originally Posted by Dr_Gonz0

considering you have been doing this for a few years, and you knew you had eggs coming, i find it hard to feel sorry for you. You had money to spend on new snakes(5 new ones no?), but not to spend on taking care of the ones that you are breeding? If you can't afford to take care of them properly, why are you breeding them then?

A basic bare bones herpstat will run you around $100. I am pretty sure you spent more than that on your new snakes. :rolleyes:

Robin
H2 Exotics

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actually i didnt know until just a while ago. i paired her but when i had her previous owner looked her over who bred her before he didnt think she took and i never felt any follicles. then i cuaght the ovulation. i bought this incubator a long time ago and i asked at the time if it needed anything extra and was told no. this is my first breeding. then when i noticed the ovulation i started a thread asking questions on what i needed, i asked for all the info i could get, i stated what i knew and if there was anything i missed. i barely got any responce on that thread and fianlly on the 19th of june someone mentioned a thermostat not a herpstat, so i went looking for one. I have also been talking with people who breed on another foum and many of them said this modell didnt require a thermostat. others said i could buy a thermostat at home depot so i went there but they didnt have anything, so as you see i have gotten all sorts of mixed messages. taking advise is obviously not the best plan in this situation since how do you know whos advise is right and whos is wrong? I checked into the herpstat and if you are getting them for 100 please share. the cheapest i saw was close to 200. 150 plus tax and shipping. and not that my finaces are anyones business but i do budget my aninmals. I stock up on food, i have a plan with the vet that if i dont have the money at the time the animal can come in and i will be billed and can make payments.if i need an emergency supply i work at a reptile store and can take what i need and pay later, they simply dont have herpstats, I also keep extra supplies incase of failure like extra bins, heat tape, dimmers in case my herpstat running the tape fails that can be used until i replace the herpstat etc. so i am able to care for my animals just fine. i bought the incubator and everything that was i thought was needed for it before i paired my girl. As for the snakes i bought, they were 5 ch, you should know that isnt very much and i bought them before there was any indication this girl was prego. And for your info and not really your business but the cost of those really didnt come out of my pocket, i took half the babies from a bag someone else bought as earnings for helping them with stuff. I only buy new snakes when i have everything else thats needed (that im aware of needed)payed for already.
this situation was brought on by the lousy timing of correct information. I was going on what i thought was right and was prepared as far as i knew until just 2 days ago.and btw some so called experts who breed all sort of reps who have this model are telling me the ooposite info still on the other forum i use, (no not eras) so who is right who is wrong. are they as successful breeders wrong to tell me i dont need the thermostat ?are the people herr as succssessful breeders being overcuatious and suggesting i buy something i dont really need?
can you not understand the situation when someone new at this cant get consistent info, might not do the right thing?
if you go back to the beggining of this thread it was not a help me im deperate to get a thermostst thread it was help me set up my incubator. i started it thinkin i had all that was needed and was preparing the incubator ahead of time. alot more responsible then the people wo come on here with a thread saying, oh no she layed eggs now what?
and i do plan to get that reptitherm, why shouldnt it work? Just becuase its not a herpstat? its still a thermostat.
so maybe you should keep that kind of opinion to yourself unless you know the whole situation.
so i am through with asking peoples advise becuase obviously you can be in a bad situation whether you ask or not, and id rather be in the bad situation without being slapped around on a forum by doing things by myself then trust the word of others and going through this crap.
and dont even start on the whole experience thing, how does one get experience if they dont actually do what it is they need experience for?I did breed ONE snake to gain some experience. even though i have more than one breedable animals and could easily have gone gung ho breeding them all. I simply chose to use the animall that was bred before, was more than big enough and that came from someone who i still have contact with so I can get help from, and he also did not mention a thermostat yet succsessfully breeds alot of animals. You cant be an experienced driver, or cook or parent etc if you dont drive a car, cook someones supper or have a kid now can you?Of course you would do these things with guidance form someone experienced, this is what i thought i had done, ya right huh?

Advise is one thing, you coming on here RC, and ERAS and asking every single question, even the basics is another. New to this? Considering you have been talking about breeding for 2 years that i know about, one would assume you had done some research of your own instead of asking everyone else to do it for you. Google isn't hard really that hard to use. Neither is the search function on the reptile forums you frequent.

As for not asking about a thermostat but asking about a incubator, it is one and the same considering you need one. I don't why you would assume you didn't need one, or my personal favourite from another thread, that your thermometer would control the heat, which is beyond me, considering they are not even connected in any way, shape or form. You even own a herpstat already, so how you didn't know that was a thermostat is mind boggling.

Like you said, you had paired them up. If you are breeding animals, you need to be prepared. Considering you had never used that incubator before, might it not have been a good idea to see if it worked before even attempting to breed?

As for you blaming all these so-called experts for bad advise, it brings me back to my original point. Why don't you try doing some of this research yourself instead of blaming other people. The only person that got you into this fix was you and your assumptions.

As for my opinion, i will post it where i like. This is a public forum, and once you post a thread or post, it is anyone's right to respond to it. The fact that you don't like the answer doesn't have much bearing on it.

I can't say i am surprised by this though, from a person who takes her corn snake outside in winter with a smoke for her at the ERAS meetings. Snakes and minus 20 weather ... hmmmm.

Robin
H2 Exotics

As for these CH that you spent no where near $100 for. Isn't that what you are now selling them for? Even though they are still being force fed? I can't believe anyone would advertise a BP for sale that is not taking food on its own. I find it reprehensible.

Robin
H2 Exotics

Ok folks,


Time for a keyboard break.

If you are going to resort to bickering back and forth take it to PM's or put each other on ignore to prevent the possibility of someone getting carried away and earning infractions.

As to the incubator discussed it does contain a wafer thermostat which may be why people told you that nothing else was needed. However there have been a few posts of people reporting them as being prone to failure which is why a lot of people choose instead to use a third party thermostat in line with it instead.

There have been people both praising and condemming the reptitemp 500 and I have personally never used one to have formed a definate opinion.

There must be other thermostats available online in Canada, on off or proportional, that cost less than the top end models but still work effectively.

The chances of you finding them in shops may be small but emailing markus jayne or similar still sounds like a quick way to find out what is available and probably even where and how much it costs.


dr del

I am no longer responding to dr gonzo and have sent a pm asking for him to quit puttiong me down publicly. I do have a business and feel the need to correct his comment. he has left out parts of the truth and i dont need my reputation ruined becuase of that, Fpr others info, yes i have ch, so does alot of poeple. what i paid for them is no ones business. i sell them at the price I do to deter those who are looking for a cheap pet that they dont care about ditching later on. I am very successful selling them at this price and i have recieved feedback from the few i have sold in the past that has been very positive. I do not and will never sell a non feeding animal to the general public, i like any other breeder have advertised my snakes as being available soon not now for anyone who wants to put one on hold. I see alot of breeders advertise thier babies the minute they have hatched so I see no difference in what I have done. And I am not force feeding them, I am assiting and there is a difference. Forcing them is to actually cram the food down thier throat and into thier stomach. I assist bt simply placing the prey in thier mouth and allowing them to do the rest. If they dont take the prey this way I leave them alone till next feeding. I have gotten all my babies to eat well this way. Usually I only have tO assist them a few times and after that they are consistant on thier own. This is why i have advertised as available soon as thier feeding responce is getting much better and I have no doubt they will be consistant f/t feeders within the next couple of feedings. the others of the 5 are its just the 2 that need a little more time. As well as making sure my babies are feeding before i release them to a new home i offer to assist the new owner with any help they may need. If thier animal stops feeding i will help them to work out why and if that does not work i will take the animal back and get it feeding for them agian. I also offer a 2 month health guarantee, thats longer than alot of people offer. Anyhow if you find there is an error in my ways then by all means buy from someone else, Im not out there to gain customers with lies and false promises, i simply want my animals to end up in good homes and to have a good start in life. If that means keeping a baby till its a year old cuase it wont feed then I have no problem with that.