what types of pythons make what?

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Originally Posted by garett

not to concerned with what you 2 think. I have done my research, sorry i'm not a genetic major. but i probably have more schooling then the two of you put together.

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For someone who has done so much research and completed as much schooling as you have, you sure do come off as a regular moron.

First off, your greatest motivation for breeding BPs is the money. Go to kingsnake.com, see the HUNDREDS of baby BPs on sale, witness first hand the morphs for sale and then realize that you have no shot, because you are not :

1- a reputable breeder ( you're a guy that sees a quick buck)
2- knowledgeable enough to create snakes worth buying. (It has nothing to do with being a genetics major, it all comes down to research. I knew nothing 2 weeks ago, I now have a collection to start breeding not for the money, but for the love of BPs and taking part in something as amazing producing piebalds, bumblebees, etc.)
3- smart (you can say all you want, you can measure a person's intelligence by what they say.)

Forget what the nice people here told you and listen to me...do NOT buy, own, care for, house or raise a BP. They are amazing creatures and deserve amazing owners, not people who see fast money and when it doesn't happen...abandon their animals. Because I have a feeling if you raise a female for 2 years, she'll be on a classified listed after the first year. My $.02, keep the change.:gj:

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Originally Posted by pavlovk1025

For someone who has done so much research and completed as much schooling as you have, you sure do come off as a regular moron.

First off, your greatest motivation for breeding BPs is the money. Go to kingsnake.com, see the HUNDREDS of baby BPs on sale, witness first hand the morphs for sale and then realize that you have no shot, because you are not :

1- a reputable breeder ( you're a guy that sees a quick buck)
2- knowledgeable enough to create snakes worth buying. (It has nothing to do with being a genetics major, it all comes down to research. I knew nothing 2 weeks ago, I now have a collection to start breeding not for the money, but for the love of BPs and taking part in something as amazing producing piebalds, bumblebees, etc.)
3- smart (you can say all you want, you can measure a person's intelligence by what they say.)

Forget what the nice people here told you and listen to me...do NOT buy, own, care for, house or raise a BP. They are amazing creatures and deserve amazing owners, not people who see fast money and when it doesn't happen...abandon their animals. Because I have a feeling if you raise a female for 2 years, she'll be on a classified listed after the first year. My $.02, keep the change.:gj:

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Pavlovk1025, I like you.

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Originally Posted by garett

not to concerned with what you 2 think. I have done my research, sorry i'm not a genetic major. but i probably have more schooling then the two of you put together.

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Interesting thought you have...

And for your well educated mind its spelled sell, not sale. As in you want to make fast money SELLing pythons, at your uneducated yard SALE.

Like I said before, raise up a baby ball from a female and if you have the patience to do so, then MAYBE, just MAYBE, you have the patience required to breed, let alone raise more than one.

And on a completely asinine side note, when you ask for help, don't aggravate those you are requesting the help from. Take the criticism as food for thought, because there are many here who can lead you down the correct path, and many here who have the knowledge to back up their opinions. :snake:

Guys,

If you find yourself wanting to post something you think might get you in trouble on the site please just take a deep breath and go hug a snake. :hug:


dr del

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Originally Posted by dr del

Guys,

If you find yourself wanting to post something you think might get you in trouble on the site please just take a deep breath and go hug a snake. :hug:


dr del

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Yep. My bad.

What's with all the negative replies? Ball python husbandry is hardly rocket science. If you think that there is a lack of knowledge on the OP's part, why not use the time and forum space your paragraphs took up to write a few tips and some info that will benefit a new ball python owner? After all, this site's slogan is "The friendliest online community for all your herping needs!", not "The place for experienced keepers and breeders".

I spent about 45 minutes on the phone with Garett, and he was seriously interested in getting some answers about some contradictory information he'd received about husbandry and genetics. He bought a ball python after his wife and kids got to hold their first one a few months ago and fell in love with it. They have been looking at all the pictures of all the baddass morphs and combos out there, and like a lot of us, they are thinking about breeding, at some point down the road, to produce a couple of the combos he likes, and he wanted to know how easy or how difficult it might be to move any extra babies they might produce along the way. I guess he assumed that the friendliest and most helpful ball python forum would be a good place to start his research. Some of you need to lighten up a bit.

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Originally Posted by PythonWallace

What's with all the negative replies? Ball python husbandry is hardly rocket science. If you think that there is a lack of knowledge on the OP's part, why not use the time and forum space your paragraphs took up to write a few tips and some info that will benefit a new ball python owner? After all, this site's slogan is "The friendliest online community for all your herping needs!", not "The place for experienced keepers and breeders".

I spent about 45 minutes on the phone with Garett, and he was seriously interested in getting some answers about some contradictory information he'd received about husbandry and genetics. He bought a ball python after his wife and kids got to hold their first one a few months ago and fell in love with it. He has been looking at all the pictures of all the baddass morphs and combos out there, and like a lot of us, he is thinking about breeding, at some point down the road, to produce a couple of the combos he likes, and he wanted to know how easy or how difficult it might be to move any extra babies he might produce along the way. I guess he assumed that the friendliest and most helpful ball python forum would be a good place to start his research. Some of you need to lighten up a bit.

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One thing to be very interested, another thing to be completely rude about it.

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

One thing to be very interested, another thing to be completely rude about it.

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Like I said in my post, take the constructive criticism, and dont be an ass when people give you advice.:gj:

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

One thing to be very interested, another thing to be completely rude about it.

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I concur, the rudeness was what set me off. Also, the way he presented his question made it seem as if his intentions were to breed for sale purposes only. There's nothing there about selling off extras that come along the way. Whatever. Good luck to him and whatever he does.

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Originally Posted by pavlovk1025

For someone who has done so much research and completed as much schooling as you have, you sure do come off as a regular moron.

First off, your greatest motivation for breeding BPs is the money. Go to kingsnake.com, see the HUNDREDS of baby BPs on sale, witness first hand the morphs for sale and then realize that you have no shot, because you are not :

1- a reputable breeder ( you're a guy that sees a quick buck)
2- knowledgeable enough to create snakes worth buying. (It has nothing to do with being a genetics major, it all comes down to research. I knew nothing 2 weeks ago, I now have a collection to start breeding not for the money, but for the love of BPs and taking part in something as amazing producing piebalds, bumblebees, etc.)
3- smart (you can say all you want, you can measure a person's intelligence by what they say.)

Forget what the nice people here told you and listen to me...do NOT buy, own, care for, house or raise a BP. They are amazing creatures and deserve amazing owners, not people who see fast money and when it doesn't happen...abandon their animals. Because I have a feeling if you raise a female for 2 years, she'll be on a classified listed after the first year. My $.02, keep the change.:gj:

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My post was definitely not aimed at anyone who gave honest constructive criticism or advice. It was mainly aimed at this. Like you said, you didn't know anything 2 weeks ago, either. Now, after 2 weeks of asking questions, you are so full of snake wisdom that you can tell someone to ignore the advise of experienced, seasoned keepers and breeders here, and to only listen to you, a complete rookie who tells people that they shouldn't buy a single snake, and will never be able to sell future offspring, etc. Aren't you the one who thought albinos and lavender albinos were compatible, only a couple of days ago?

Usually, the people who have a couple of weeks of research and ownership under their belts stick to regurgitating forum dogma. You should stick to educating yourself for a while, imho, before attempting to hand out advice. You don't have experience, so all you are capable of doing is regurgitating internet dogma, or giving bad information.

He definitely knows that he's unlikely to break even breeding a pair or two of ball pythons, let alone make money. But for the record, there are plenty of people out there who breed way more snakes than any one person could ever love on a personal level, for the purpose of making money. I don't see a problem with it, as long as the snakes are taken care of. Congratulations on being such an "amazing owner", with such a deep passion for snakes, but don't assume that your passion gives you any special wisdom that a new owner won't receive from someone who likely has the same passion as you, but who actually has a little experience under his belt. Just my $0.02.