CT just snuck this thru

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Originally Posted by SPJ

They basically killed CT with this law. They banned just about every animal.

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Pretty much ferrets and dart frogs are the only animals on this list that shouldn't be included.

All other animals on this list should only be kept in zoos or by professionals.
By no means did this "Kill CT"....unless of course you have to give up your beloved pet rhino or hippo.

Hi,

I can't see the justification for having all tarantulas and scorpions on it?

And wouldn't the rear fanged bit prohibit hognoses?


dr del

I don't think hots should be banned? :confused:

Plenty of people do it responsibly!

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

I can't see the justification for having all tarantulas and scorpions on it?

And wouldn't the rear fanged bit prohibit hognoses?


dr del

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I agree with this also. Hoggies should also be exempt.

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Originally Posted by DutchHerp

I don't think hots should be banned? :confused:

Plenty of people do it responsibly!

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But plenty of people don't. Maybe a case by case license is needed for hots?.....


Overall this law stops people from buying/keeping dangerous large animals that really shouldn't be kept in the home anyway....you really cannot argue with that.

This just proves once again that one person can ruin it for everyone. For every 10 responsible exotic hobbyists, there is always one "special" individual trying to be cool and doesn't care that it will negatively effect what the responsible people work so hard for everyday.

The government is so busy trying to pass new laws everyday, when what they should be doing is enforcing the ones we have now! Time and time again, I see new laws go into place, when enforcement of the current ones would probably have prevented the need for a new law!

:soapbx:

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

I can't see the justification for having all tarantulas and scorpions on it?

And wouldn't the rear fanged bit prohibit hognoses?


dr del

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From the text:

18) The rear-fanged members of the colubridae in the genera lothornis, boiga, thelotornis, thabdophis, enhydris, dispholidus, clelia, rhabdophis, hydrodynastes, philodryas and malpolon;

No heterodon. So hognoses are fine.

well that bites big time. sorry this happened.

Now to find out about my state...

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Originally Posted by monk90222

Pretty much ferrets and dart frogs are the only animals on this list that shouldn't be included.

All other animals on this list should only be kept in zoos or by professionals.
By no means did this "Kill CT"....unless of course you have to give up your beloved pet rhino or hippo.

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...........or your beloved mussurana or mangrove snake or white throated monitor or black throated monitor or false water cobra or gila monster or beaded lizard or taratula or scorpion or any other species as provided under by:

"The commissioner may totally prohibit the importation, possession, introduction into the state or liberation therein of certain species which the commissioner has determined may be a potential threat to humans, agricultural crops or established species of plants, fish, birds, mammals, reptiles, amphibians or invertebrates"

Seriously, did you read the bill?

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Originally Posted by DutchHerp

Joshua,

Not all that much for now! This law is only Connecticut... however, more of these laws might be passed state per state... and more probably will get passed.

As far as I know there aren't may huge breeder in Connecticut though, so as far as that is concerned, we're not losing a BHB or a NERD.

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You are totally wrong.

Thousands of responsible exotic owners just got screwed and their pets just got sentenced to death.

........and how does not losing a big breeder consititute an acceptable intrusion onto our rights? When did you and I become expendable so that Kevin and Brian can live to fight another day?

It affects everyone who owns an exotic pet. It shows just how easy it is to quickly and almost secretly enact legislation that can take away your rights and freedoms.

It also shows how unorganized and ineffective this community is. How many of you even bother to check your state senate and assembly websites for bills of this type coming down the pipe?

The State of Connecticut just encated a poorly written piece of legislation that not only denies exotic pet owners of their rights but sentences an untold number of animals to death.

It also grants immense power to the "commisioner" to add species to the list as he sees fit. It also provides a model and an example for advocates of this type of garbage in other states to follow.

It stinks and it has a huge affect on everyone in this community.

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(c) The provisions of this section shall not apply to ....... or to a person possessing a Bengal cat certified by an internationally recognized multiple-cat domestic feline breeding association as being without wild parentage for a minimum of four prior generations which cat was registered with the Commissioner of Agriculture on or before October 1, 1996, provided no such cat may be imported into this state after June 6, 1996. [; or to persons possessing animals legally on or before May 23, 1983.] In any action taken by any official of the state or any municipality to control rabies, a Bengal cat shall be considered not vaccinated for rabies in accordance with accepted veterinary practice.

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...so I guess someone from the Bengal Cat lobby was on hand for consultations during the draw up of the law?

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[No] (a) Except as provided in subsection (c) of this section, no person shall import or introduce into the state, or possess or liberate therein, any live fish, wild bird, wild mammal, reptile, amphibian or invertebrate unless such person has obtained a permit therefor from the commissioner. [, provided nothing in this section shall be construed to require such permit for any primate species that weighs not more than fifty pounds at maturity that was imported or possessed in the state prior to October 1, 2003.] Such permit may be issued at the discretion of the commissioner under such regulations as the commissioner may prescribe. The commissioner may by regulation prescribe the numbers of live fish, wild birds, wild mammals, reptiles, amphibians or invertebrates of certain species which may be imported, possessed, introduced into the state or liberated therein. The commissioner may by regulation exempt certain species or groups of live fish from the permit requirements. The commissioner may by regulation determine which species of wild birds, wild mammals, reptiles, amphibians or invertebrates must meet permit requirements.

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Here's your way around this Steve, take out the commissioner for a beer or two and have a chat.

All kidding aside, laws can and do get changed. If it doesn't go into effect until Oct 1st, then there's time for the affected parties in CT to get motivated and do whatever is possible to get this changed to a more sensible piece of legislation. The alternative is doing nothing and being assured no changes for the better will happen. Never give up.