My wc gravid

I won’t comment on the animal itself just your guarantee.

A guarantee is only as good as the integrity of the seller is.

If you bought from John or Chris, (Ball Python Brothers or Rare Pythons) good luck to you to try to get anything back apparently you are aware of that already but for those that are not remember that a little inquiry goes a long way before buying

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...thons+brothers

No matter who you got it from... you should not expect to keep the snake and get your money back.
You would not BE a good customer if he has to return your money AND be out the snake also. Then you have a free snake, and he has nothing. You are no longer a customer, as you didn't give him any money.
If the snake is not gravid, you should return it, and recieve a refund. It sounds like you bought from a lousy seller, if it's the same as listed, so you might have wanted to do more research, or pay a little more to get one from a more reputable dealer. If the snake lays even one slug, then you have no claim.
You were not sold eggs, you were sold a pregnant snake. Only if it's not pregnant can you expect any refund, and only if you return the product(snake).

Ugh. Chris again. :rolleyes:

I did do a lot of google searches before buying from him, and nothing came up. I know a formore member here who bought 2 from him, and they layed a few weeks ago, and sorry but a pic is outta the question, as i no longer have my camera phone. But thank you all for your responses, and honestly he didnt seem like that bad of a guy when i was talking to him, we emailed back and forth quite a few times because i wantyed to make sure everything was gravy, and hopefully it will be. and if not, hey i got a nice snake right. better luck next year

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I did do a lot of google searches

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When you want to do some research the best thing is to go on the BOI and do a search there http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...splay.php?f=13

You can also ask here in the inquiry forum.

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Originally Posted by azpythons

Why I feel it would be good business (not i feel im entitled) to get my money back and keep the snake- I guess its because i believe in good business, and a good business man will add value if they mess up.

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There is such a thing as being a good customer too. Trying to get something for nothing is not being a good customer. If this BP turns out to not be gravid, I wish you good luck getting any return on that guarantee, knowing who you got it from, but asking for anything that was not guaranteed is out of line.

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Originally Posted by azpythons

So in this case, id think if he returned the money i paid, not including shipping, he jus made me happy, now if he says cool well ship the snake back to me 1) thats added stress 2) I aint a reptile certified shipper so id have to go out of my way to do that, and a angry customer is a bad customer.

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You might have thought points 1 and 2 before you made this purchase. How is an angry customer a bad customer if the customer has no right to be angry?

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Originally Posted by azpythons

if i was the one doing business id have no problem sending someone their money back and letting them keep the snake if it was something i assured.

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But, that's not something you were assured by the guarantee you recieved.

If you're someone who will give away product for free, it would not be long before your business is broke. While no one likes to think about animals as "just" product, in business they are product for profit.
Making a good customer happy is one thing, going broke to satisfy someone over and above the guarentee is another.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

When you want to do some research the best thing is to go on the BOI and do a search there http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...splay.php?f=13

You can also ask here in the inquiry forum.

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Rare Pythons eh? I had wished that liar had fallen out, no luck apparently. :rage:

I agree about being a good customer and all that, but a business would not go broke if run properly, and if they were to take those extra steps to ensure what their sending out is as sold. I guess if i bought a mojave, and got a pastel, id send the animal back and get my mojave, not keep both, so i guess that makes sense, kinda apples to oranges though. i paid that money so i could have the experience of a snake laying eggs, raising the babies, and everything that goes along with that, now its not like he could jus pull out another wc gravid right now and we could trade, but it is their fault, why should the customer be cheated out of what the customer paid for, now i guess it is jus me but if this happened to me, i guarantee id at least send the customer their money back for not getting what was originally purchased, and at least one of the little hatchlings, since that is what the customer paid for, the chance to raise a baby and try to adapt its mom well into captivity, but i guess its just me. The business wouldnt go out of business because they should not be making mistakes like that in the first place. if they can not properly tell if a wc is pregnant or not they have no business selling them, and should be out of business.

now that said i dont expect, or assume, or feel entitled to anything. I think if he did this for his customers he would have a better rep, but whatever. if he wants the snake back he aint getting it, and i dont have the money now so if i dont get it back, eh. if he never responds to me all i can do is make sure everyone knows he sucks.

But as jnj said theirs no way to tell if the animal laid or not unless the seller gets it back, so that makes a lot of sense. otherwise anyone could just be like yo my snake didnt lay eggs. thanks guys, ill let yall know if she ends up being gravid or not, and what happens.
thanks for all your help and advice.