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Everyone read-Hybrid Talk

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  • 03-13-2009, 04:43 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: Everyone read-Hybrid Talk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Michelle.C View Post
    Agreed, which is why I don't wish to produce them myself. They are going to produce hybrids, whether we like it or not. I just make sure I buy from reputable dealers who know their animals history, especially if I want to breed the animals myself.

    I completely understand where you are coming from. Fact is, quite a few hybridist are extremely irresponsible. They don't keep paper work on the animals, they don't sell them to responsible keepers, etc. The chain continues until you end up with where Carpet Pythons, Hog Island Boas, other Boa Locales, etc are currently at. Look at the massive posts about "What Carpet did I get?", I've seen 3 posts in the past week or two.

    Oh! and lets not forget childreni (Children's Pythons) and maculosa (Spotted Python). It is extremely rare to find a pure animal in the US. Almost immediately after being imported into US soil, the intra-species hybridization started.

    I said as long as they are bred responsibly, I don't mind. Yes it might not be a common occurrence, but it does occur. Most of the users on the forum he posted are serious about their hobby (hybrids) and do keep proper labels on their animals. Most of them that are serious about the hobby will also sell to other responsible keepers.

    I wasn't directing that at you. I agree that some hybrids look cool and if history showed that people were able to keep a hybrid project from messing up pure lines, I'd probably have less of a hatred for the practice. I just write the post I did every time I get handed the setup you laid out for me.
  • 03-13-2009, 04:46 PM
    Michelle.C
    Re: Everyone read-Hybrid Talk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PythonWallace View Post
    I wasn't directing that at you. I agree that some hybrids look cool and if history showed that people were able to keep a hybrid project from messing up pure lines, I'd probably have less of a hatred for the practice. I just write the post I did every time I get handed the setup you laid out for me.

    I know it wasn't directed at me. I was also adding to what you said. Making a further point. :)
  • 03-13-2009, 05:35 PM
    waltah!
    Re: Everyone read-Hybrid Talk
    I would actually love to see a hybrid forum here. I don't breed them or keep them, but I find them pretty fascinating.
  • 03-13-2009, 05:45 PM
    Lucas339
    Re: Everyone read-Hybrid Talk
    1. i never told anyone what to do, i only made a suggestion.
    2. I have no problems with threads that strain on for endless pages but i do have a problem with people asking a question and never getting the answer due to other people bashing them for wanting to know more about something.
    3. if you thought this post was there was something wrong with what i posted then i guess im missing the point of stating an opinion. my opinion is simply if you want a strait answer then there are other places to ask them (not saying where)
    4. i started a another thread with a poll attached to see how much interest there is on here for a hybrid section. based i this, the mods can determine weither or not to start the new section. please, vote how you feel. if you are just going to go onto the hybrid section just to post comments on how you disapprove hybridization of animals then i ask you just to vote no.

    if any of the above post offends you in any way, calm down! its just the internet:)
  • 03-13-2009, 06:45 PM
    Slim
    Re: Everyone read-Hybrid Talk
    I voted.
  • 03-13-2009, 08:15 PM
    Lucas339
    Re: Everyone read-Hybrid Talk
  • 03-14-2009, 12:20 AM
    nixer
    Re: Everyone read-Hybrid Talk
    the biggest issue is that you have a handfull of ppl that want to debate everything they do not agree with and flame those that dont agree with them. we should have a hybrid forum.
  • 03-14-2009, 07:18 AM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: Everyone read-Hybrid Talk
    I find a member posting that people should go to another forum to talk about something allowed here to be very disrespectful. It's bordering on rude, and I've seen people banned off other sites for doing the same thing.
    If the talk about hybrids bugs you, then go to the hybrid site. But don't start telling people that they should go there to talk instead of here.
    You wouldn't get a good reception if you went into McDonalds and started telling people in the lobby to go to BurderKing, would you?
  • 03-14-2009, 07:27 AM
    frankykeno
    Re: Everyone read-Hybrid Talk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nixer View Post
    the biggest issue is that you have a handfull of ppl that want to debate everything they do not agree with and flame those that dont agree with them. we should have a hybrid forum.

    So it would be a very interesting board if we all posted..."I do this" and 500 people posted "OMG I do that too!"????? Look Nixer the whole point of places like this is to gather information and that's often through healthy debate and discussion. I'm sorry that makes you less than comfortable.

    As far as flaming, I think you would agree that we keep that to a bare minimum around here. It's a point of pride with this staff that we try to put out those flames as fast as possible and insist that our membership show respect to each other and to differing opinions. However, we cannot and I feel should not constantly insist that everyone hug and make kissy faces at each other - we are not online babysitters. Thinking adults are going to disagree, sometimes quite strongly, when they are talking about something they are passionate about. All we ask is that they do it with the same respect they expect to be afforded their own thoughts and feelings.

    Personally I hope that everyone here is passionate about their snakes. :)
  • 03-14-2009, 09:30 AM
    Lucas339
    Re: Everyone read-Hybrid Talk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lucas339 View Post
    1. i never told anyone what to do, i only made a suggestion.2. I have no problems with threads that strain on for endless pages but i do have a problem with people asking a question and never getting the answer due to other people bashing them for wanting to know more about something.
    3. if you thought this post was there was something wrong with what i posted then i guess im missing the point of stating an opinion. my opinion is simply if you want a strait answer then there are other places to ask them (not saying where)
    4. i started a another thread with a poll attached to see how much interest there is on here for a hybrid section. based i this, the mods can determine weither or not to start the new section. please, vote how you feel. if you are just going to go onto the hybrid section just to post comments on how you disapprove hybridization of animals then i ask you just to vote no.

    if any of the above post offends you in any way, calm down! its just the internet:)

    holy broken record:O
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