BallpythonZone.com Split - Wild caught BP

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Originally Posted by Wh00h0069

It seems pointless to me to import a half-a-million ball pythons into the United States each year for possibly one or two new morphs each season, if that. Thoughts?

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is it any more pointless now than it was when the pastel who is responsible for you having a pastel was brought in, or the spider responsible for you having a spider, or the ghost that is responsible for you having ghosts, or the piebald responsible for you having a piebald??

Keep the WC.. All snakes need a loving home...

But seroisly, if he wants to be taken seriosuly, he shouldn't complain about his snake not eating when he JUST got it and didn't allow it to relax at all. He just started feeding and handeling wayyy before a week, then his exuse was "I was exited".

I suspect my male was WC, and he's a great breeder and one of my most healthy and nice snakes.

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Originally Posted by Wh00h0069

It seems pointless to me to import a half-a-million ball pythons into the United States each year for possibly one or two new morphs each season, if that. Thoughts?

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its called supply and demand. if the market has a demand there will be a supply. if there was no demand there would be no supply. its pretty much that simple dude.

If breeders could supply the stores, the stores would buy cheap snakes from breeders.
New morphs come in from africa EVERY year, and more than one or two. There's a lot of new morphs that would never be seen (unless you're a high priced importer who would get around the laws) if you outlawed imports.
I agree... ditching a pet is a BAD way to state it. There's several CH females in my collection that I've shown off that I wouldn't trade or sell at all. I try to prefer CBB but I'm not for wholesale outlawing imports either.
There's nothing wrong with starting out small. I bet NERD's first ever ball python was a wild caught.

Uh. Ditch where? Backyard? It's 32 degrees here now. Hmmm. What would a little BP do in 30 degree weather? Live? Isn't that animal cruelty?

Another question. Do you think an animal kept in captivity for years would be able to adapt to wildlife?

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Originally Posted by Wh00h0069

I was actually trying to help. IMO, the best way to start a breeding business is to start with quality animals.

I am sorry if I made you feel like crap. It was not my intention.

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im about to buy a proven breeder 04 pastel from blueapplepaste anyone ever done biz with him. Also i will not get rid of my wc bp. because even tho its wc its still a ball python one of the best snakes in the world

also if your saying ditch wc then they would have to ditch the toffee bp and idt anybody wants that. my 2cents

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Originally Posted by BallPythonZone

im about to buy a proven breeder 04 pastel from blueapplepaste anyone ever done biz with him.

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The appropriate place to ask a question like that is in the "inquiries and feedback" section, which is near the bottom of the forum index.

BallPythonZone, you have a keyboard in front of you, please use it. Chatspeak is so annoying.

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Originally Posted by stratus_020202

Uh. Ditch where? Backyard? It's 32 degrees here now. Hmmm. What would a little BP do in 30 degree weather? Live? Isn't that animal cruelty?

Another question. Do you think an animal kept in captivity for years would be able to adapt to wildlife?

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:rofl: No one was saying that he should put his animal in his back yard. I was suggesting that he should give it, or sell it, to someone as a pet that could give it a good home. Hopefully someone that knows how to properly care for a wild caught animal. I also do not think that a wild caught animal is any less of an animal than a captive bred animal. I just do not agree with capturing wild ball pythons or importing captive hatched ball pythons. IMO, anyone that buys these animals is supporting the practices of collecting wild animals and captive hatched imports.

If you think about it, ball python breeding could actually be a lucrative business if importation was made illegal. As someone mentioned above, there is a large demand for ball pythons. The issue is that there is also a HUGE supply. There are tons of breeders in the United States that have to sell their captive bred animals for $10 each, or less, because there are so many imported animals coming into the United States each year. If importation stopped, the demand would still be there, but the supply would be much less. Therefore, captive bred animals would go up in price.

Anyway, I don't want to argue this topic any longer. I have my opinions, and other people have theirs. I respect opinions that differ from mine; although, I do not agree with them.

BTW, BallpythonZone, you should check out Fauna's BOI before purchasing anymore snakes. There are reviews on many people in the business on that site. Good luck on your future endeavors.