Adding "one more morph": A bright future for the BP industry

I may be missing the point but what he says makes sense...

He is not saying he is going to produce these or even that it is possible for the majority of us who do not have the breeding stable that BHB has will be able to do this.

He is just saying if you have genes A, B, C it is possible for you to create X # of morphs, not taking into account the feasibility!

Mike

Whatever makes you feel better about dumping a bunch of money into snakes :D Just kidding! Congrats! I believe I saw a pic of it that John posted?

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Originally Posted by kc261

I think this is an excellent post, although maybe a lot of people are either not understanding or missing the point.

The way I read the original post is not that Jon expects to be producing over 1000 different combos any time soon, just that those possibilities are now open to him. The cool part is he gets to pick and choose which ones he'd rather shoot for.

In fact, with his comments about the future and the addictiveness of BPs, I thought part of his point is that it WILL take a long time. No matter how many possibilities there are, if you can "collect them all" within a short time, it gets boring.

I have 6 genes in my collection, 7 if you count normal, and 8 if you count my phet. But basically I can make "only" 63 combos. That number sounds small compared to Jon's 1000, but I know it will keep me busy for YEARS even if I don't add any new genes into the mix. I think that is a GOOD thing.

Plus we have 4 different corn snake genes, and 2 different phets there.

Yeah, I don't see me losing interest in this hobby any time soon.

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Excellent post, that is what I was trying to convey.

JonV

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Originally Posted by EmberBall

Jon, for us mathchallenged, it was a great post, I just do not think that way. So, it was an interesting point.

Dave

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Thanks David! The yellowbelly is doing great, by the way :)

JonV

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Originally Posted by Isis

Whatever makes you feel better about dumping a bunch of money into snakes :D Just kidding! Congrats! I believe I saw a pic of it that John posted?

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Hahahaa....yeah, gotta justify it somehow right? :) Lol John was director of photography today, he did a dang good job too.

JonV

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Originally Posted by Hock3ymonk3y

Umm if some of those gened are dominant and some a recessive then you cant get them into the same snake... Im pretty sure

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are you stating that you cant have both dominant and recessive genes in the same snake? if so, that isn't true. There are codominant genes or dominant genes and recessive genes in the same snake take a look at the following:

albino spider
albino pin
pied spider
pied super cinny (panda pied)
honey bee (ghost/hypomelanisitic, spider)

I'm not entirely convinced that you can get that many combinations. One thing the equation assumes is that you can get 10 or 15 or more genes into one snake. I think that once you get to a certain number of genes the probability of a snake being produced with that many genes drops to a number so low that it is statistically impossible.

So, the question is, how many genes can you reasonably get into one snake?

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Originally Posted by cinderbird

are you stating that you cant have both dominant and recessive genes in the same snake? if so, that isn't true. There are codominant genes or dominant genes and recessive genes in the same snake take a look at the following:

albino spider
albino pin
pied spider
pied super cinny (panda pied)
honey bee (ghost/hypomelanisitic, spider)

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Cinderbird is correct. You can not have more than 2 genes that all lie on the same allele...ie, there is no mojo/butter/lesser.

JonV

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Originally Posted by brainman1000

I'm not entirely convinced that you can get that many combinations. One thing the equation assumes is that you can get 10 or 15 or more genes into one snake. I think that once you get to a certain number of genes the probability of a snake being produced with that many genes drops to a number so low that it is statistically impossible.

So, the question is, how many genes can you reasonably get into one snake?

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I think in 10 years we'll be surprised by the number of genes in these ball pythons. :)

JonV

I beleive your equation will not work for recessive gene as they need to be Homozygous to be visual. Only Dominate and Co-Dominant will work. :)