problem with w.c. gravids from africa!!!!!!!

I'm more a fan of CB, BUUUT like how the Platinum was introduced; if someone finds a really cool looking wild caught snake, well then they should obviously try and sell it off to the highest bidder, who then has the right to breed it off and sell it's babies for whatever the market will stand. Capitalism, it's a beautiful thing.

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Originally Posted by ColinWeaver

JonV,

For Tracy Barker to take a stand against the importation of ball pythons skews toward hypocritical. Her company has some of the most unusual ball pythons out there and they produced many of them FIRST. Think she was first because she got real lucky on a CB normal X CB normal? Nope, she participated in the plucking just like everyone else. And now that she has her edge, her advantage, in the ball morph BUSINESS she decides to oppose the same practice that helped catapult her to where she is? That's just too convenient.

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If you put down your pitchfork for a moment, you would understand what Tracy actually had to say. No, I don't have a transcript in front of me, but this is along the lines of what she said... (paraphrasing here)

"Our captive populations and gene pool is sustainable without continued importation of ball pythons."

I don't recall her ever saying she didn't import animals. In fact, she is one of the first people to get different wild caught species to successfully breed, hatch and live in captivity, even though she may not work with each species any more.

They do still import other species of snake. Species that do not have high numbers here in the US.

She firmly believes that continuing to import ball pythons is not needed. Never has she said she hasn't imported them, or that they aren't importing any other snake species.

It's good advice to get your facts straight before you start calling someone a hypocrite.

The fact is the definition of a hypocrite is someone who'll do something then tell others not to.
Too me that is not to be based on situation
if you did it and tell people not to, for whatever reason, your a hippocrit

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Originally Posted by azpythons

The fact is the definition of a hypocrite is someone who'll do something then tell others not to.
Too me that is not to be based on situation
if you did it and tell people not to, for whatever reason, your a hippocrit

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:rolleyes:

Oh, I just love forums....

A hypocrite is someone who ACTS in difference to their opinions or sayings.

So, if she imports ANY snake, she's a hypocrite, even if the reality is two different circumstances.

Wow, I had no idea I wasn't allowed to have an opinion about one species importation and can't have a differing opinion on another species or else I'm a hypocrite. No matter the different circumstances... They are totally the same thing. :rolleyes:

I apparently need to go back and review my entire life. *review review...*

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Originally Posted by nevohraalnavnoj

I like having hobbies too, Jiu-jitsu for example, but it doesn't come at the cost of plucking...gravid Brazilian's from Brazil (analogy, lol?)... and importing them to the US.

JonV

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I do Jiu jitsu as well! Sweet!:cool:

Regarding to the subject- People are out to make money in this hobby. People are finding ways to sell one for $75 a pop as easy as they can. Selling ready to breed females for $75 is very appealing. But these people are not taking into consideration the market as a whole. They are selling trash and diluting the market and the species. I am all about quality not quantity.

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no problems with it here.
do your thing if you dont want to buy c.h. or w.c. dont.
noones making you...

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Wow ok so you have missed the point of this thead completely
And for the people saying it can't be stopped your wrong we as Americans can help by stopping the purchasing and selling of these snakes and for the people still doing it try being a human and forget about the $70.

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Originally Posted by SUPERBALLS

Wow ok so you have missed the point of this thead completely
And for the people saying it can't be stopped your wrong we as Americans can help by stopping the purchasing and selling of these snakes and for the people still doing it try being a human and forget about the $70.

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LOL

Look, it's a guy with blinders on claiming he has x-ray vision.

The thing about being human, is that we are all different. No one has the right to force anyone else to change thier opinion. If some people don't like getting imports, then don't. Some people do like imports, leave them be.
If you stop focusing all your enegy on what everyone else is doing you will live a much happier life.
Just worry about yourself, you can not change anyone else!

I honestly don't care about other people's opinions. I live MY life the way I want to.

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The thing about being human, is that we are all different. No one has the right to force anyone else to change thier opinion.

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Tell that to the Catholics who are always pounding on my door :rolleyes:

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Tell that to the Catholics who are always pounding on my door :rolleyes:

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I usually just tell them to go to heck, or I will burn them at the stake. Or answer the door in a long black hooded robe, and they don't come back.