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  • 02-06-2009, 05:31 PM
    azpythons
    Re: feed in tank or another tank/tub?
    i might jus try to feed em there enclosures next time...
  • 02-06-2009, 05:39 PM
    TMoore
    Re: feed in tank or another tank/tub?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MikeySnakey View Post
    Never feed your snake in its enclosure. This will make the snake think that whenever you open the enclosure they will be fed and you do not want your hand to be mistaken for food. Also this will make your snake tame because it will be used to the feeding container and associate going into the separate container with feeding.
    If you feed your snake in its enclosure it may end up being agressive anytime you open it.


    Mikey,
    Thanks for trying to give me some advice, but your completely wrong.

    I know Missi already mentioned it, but I'm going to reiterate it.

    Your theory is that if you feed a snake in their tank they will then associate their tank and your hand coming in with feeding and bite you when you reach in, right? But if you take them out to feed them, wouldn't they then associate being taken out of their cage with feeding?

    Think about it.
  • 02-06-2009, 05:45 PM
    catboulet
    Re: feed in tank or another tank/tub?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by missi182 View Post
    Yes. 100%. Ball pythons hunt in the wild from their natural hiding places, often waiting days for a rodent to scurry by. At that point they strike and are able to eat near or in the security of their 'home'. Ball pythons are finicky eaters as it is, and while I am sure many will eat just fine out of their enclosure, there is really no need for it with exception to owner benefit (what ever reason that may be)

    1 thing I would like to say is our snakes live in captivity for generations, not in the wild. They would most likely just die in the wild… so its really irrelevant in a way in domestic snakes. So if they are used to the feeding container method from an early age they most likely won’t be stressed from getting handled on feeding day, and if they are, at least you can expect the bite on feeding day. But with other method if you snake snaps you for any reason it can happen any day of the week. And there is a difference between handling and just transfer him.
  • 02-06-2009, 05:49 PM
    azpythons
    Re: feed in tank or another tank/tub?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by catboulet View Post
    1 thing I would like to say is our snakes live in captivity for generations, not in the wild. They would most likely just die in the wild… so its really irrelevant in a way in domestic snakes. So if they are used to the feeding container method from an early age they most likely won’t be stressed from getting handled on feeding day, and if they are, at least you can expect the bite on feeding day. But with other method if you snake snaps you for any reason it can happen any day of the week. And there is a difference between handling and just transfer him.

    another good point
  • 02-06-2009, 05:51 PM
    missi182
    Re: feed in tank or another tank/tub?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by catboulet View Post
    1 thing I would like to say is our snakes live in captivity for generations, not in the wild. They would most likely just die in the wild… so its really irrelevant in a way in domestic snakes. So if they are used to the feeding container method from an early age they most likely won’t be stressed from getting handled on feeding day, and if they are, at least you can expect the bite on feeding day. But with other method if you snake snaps you for any reason it can happen any day of the week. And there is a difference between handling and just transfer him.

    So now we can erase instinct huh? Lions in the zoo eat vegetables and don't hunt either I bet. Thats cool. Read the other threads, I'm tired of explaining what experience has suggested. Do what you would like.
  • 02-06-2009, 05:53 PM
    TMoore
    Re: feed in tank or another tank/tub?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by catboulet View Post
    1 thing I would like to say is our snakes live in captivity for generations, not in the wild. They would most likely just die in the wild… so its really irrelevant in a way in domestic snakes. So if they are used to the feeding container method from an early age they most likely won’t be stressed from getting handled on feeding day, and if they are, at least you can expect the bite on feeding day. But with other method if you snake snaps you for any reason it can happen any day of the week. And there is a difference between handling and just transfer him.

    Ball pythons are not domesticated, they are still wild animals.
  • 02-06-2009, 05:57 PM
    Spaniard
    Re: feed in tank or another tank/tub?
    If you're not ready to be bit any day of the week then I don't think snakes are the right animal for you. Getting bit is a possibility on feeding day or not, there have been many people here that have had a docile snake that has bit them out of the blue and uncharacteristically. The bigger picture and whats best for the snake should be the driving factor in husbandry consideration. Not that one way is conclusively better than the other because as mentioned above its all personal choice.

    When it comes to me and my choice all I need to do is think about thanksgiving dinner and having someone move me around afterwords at their leisure....No thank you I'll move from this couch when "I'M" ready.
  • 02-06-2009, 06:04 PM
    catboulet
    Re: feed in tank or another tank/tub?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by missi182 View Post
    So now we can erase instinct huh? Lions in the zoo eat vegetables and don't hunt either I bet. Thats cool. Read the other threads, I'm tired of explaining what experience has suggested. Do what you would like.

    You misunderstood me, i never said their instincts got erased in captivity.. they are just a lot more "domesticated". And most of the zoo lion don't hunt btw..
  • 02-06-2009, 06:06 PM
    catboulet
    Re: feed in tank or another tank/tub?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TMoore View Post
    Ball pythons are not domesticated, they are still wild animals.

    so bp in the wild and in your living room got the same attitude?.. you gonna tell me you can approach a wild snake and pick it up and handle it w/o it being aggressive or struck at?
  • 02-06-2009, 06:08 PM
    missi182
    Re: feed in tank or another tank/tub?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by catboulet View Post
    You misunderstood me, i never said their instincts got erased in captivity.. they are just a lot more "domesticated". And most of the zoo lion don't hunt btw..


    Go for a stroll through the lions at the zoo of my choice and see how you do.....anyway like I said, read the other threads if you would like further clarification to the matter.
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