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Whale Wars?

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  • 12-20-2008, 02:22 PM
    RhacHead
    Re: Whale Wars?
    Good 'ol Whale Wars! Yup the is controversy at its finest...
    I previously go into it on another Form over this exact subect so I'll keep it clean.Heres my $0.02 for whats its worth.:rolleyes:
    I believe that Whaling is wrong,I believe that the Sea Shepords antics are a little over the top but They are drawing attention to the cause! In my opinion that is what needs to be done.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SecurityStacey View Post
    No. You shouldn't. You would go through proper legal channels so that the children would be removed safely and the parents would be charged instead of you being charged with kidnapping and the children being returned to that home. You can't uphold the law by breaking it.

    The people on the Sea Shepherd show an indifference for the safety of not only the Japanese whalers but their own crew mates as well as well as a blatant disregard for law. And for those that disregard the danger to the Japanese whalers... violence begets violence. It isn't the way.

    I totally agree but... What if the system is broken? How do you go through the proper legal channels if you have an obviously flawed system? You can't.Sometimes Drastic times call for drastic measures:O And I'm pretty sure we can all agree that what they are doing is drastic.
  • 12-20-2008, 05:57 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: Whale Wars?
    They are only making protesters look like violent idiots, IMHO.
    And if India outlaws eating cows, should they send folks over to start hurling acid at US ranchers? Remember, they are NOT in Australian, or US waters. It's all at best murky legalaties. Japan is technically within their rights to take a certain number of whales per season. They say for research, and they might do some research(probably on the levels of toxic chemicals in whale meat for consumer information) and then use all the meat and blubber as well to sell for consumption.
    Is it wrong to kill whales? To most folks in the United States, yes. To the people of Japan? Mostly not. Again, it's NOT the US customs. It's the International Law that counts.
    BTW< I do just LOVE how the SeaShepard people point out that the dolphins, pilot whales and humpbacks are "protected" by them being there. Truth? The whalers do not go after either dolphins or pilot whales, and have already agreed not to take any humpbacks due to low numbers. So those animals were never in danger of being harvested. There's so much lies and misinformation on the show that I think it does more harm than good.
  • 06-26-2009, 03:27 AM
    Clear
    Re: Whale Wars?
    Bumping because of this thread, http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=94960

    I agree with wolfy 100%. If I was the captain of the whale ship and pirates jumped aboard my ship guess what, its open seas and my ship is in danger (you can figure out the rest I hope). These tactics are the wrong way and having idiots doing the tactics makes it even worse. I agree something needs to be done but this is not the way, two wrongs do not make a right.
  • 06-26-2009, 11:53 AM
    mainbutter
    Re: Whale Wars?
    The only reason I don't support whaling is that I believe it is unsustainable. Does anyone else feel this way?

    I don't get what makes whales "special".

    Then again, I very much have the hunter/predator instinct. I track, kill, cook, and eat animals.

    No two ways about it though, the captain of the Sea Shepherd was a founding member of Greenpeace who was kicked out for being too extreme. Not only that, but I believe endangering the lives of their own crew, and the crew of the whaling ships is very wrong.
  • 06-26-2009, 12:17 PM
    Royal Morphz
    Re: Whale Wars?
    I wanted to see it but well I'm getting old and I forgot
  • 06-26-2009, 04:25 PM
    Quickone4u
    Re: Whale Wars?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mainbutter View Post
    The only reason I don't support whaling is that I believe it is unsustainable. Does anyone else feel this way?

    I don't get what makes whales "special".

    Then again, I very much have the hunter/predator instinct. I track, kill, cook, and eat animals.

    No two ways about it though, the captain of the Sea Shepherd was a founding member of Greenpeace who was kicked out for being too extreme. Not only that, but I believe endangering the lives of their own crew, and the crew of the whaling ships is very wrong.

    I agree completely! I'm a hunter/fisher and do the same. If the animals you're hunting can't sustain the numbers to survive then, that's when they shouldn't be hunted or killed. Ither then that, I have no problems with it as long as it isn't a useless killing for fun. I use all that I can of an animal I have hunted or caught. If I have excess, then I provide to others.
  • 06-26-2009, 04:31 PM
    carrieres102584
    Re: Whale Wars?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Montessa Python View Post
    It would be better if they had competant people, vs people with two brain cells with passports.
    The friend of the capt. not holding the rope right, as they lowered the zodiac... causing 4 plus people to have to be saved from freezing to death...
    An aviation "enthusiast" in charge of the helo..causing near catastrophic damage to a rotar blade...
    All this BEFORE they get to save a single whale.
    I will of course watch more of it, and hope that things get better.

    Caroll

    Exactly. It would be better if the people on the ship had any intelligence. I love the idea and the cause. I just think that we need people who have the brains doing this stuff.
  • 06-27-2009, 12:00 AM
    matt71915
    Re: Whale Wars?
    Peter Brown is gone!!!!!!!
    he says the reason is because of financial issues
    he also made a comment of people being jealous of him being first mate... what a jerk
  • 06-27-2009, 12:14 AM
    PrioBull
    Re: Whale Wars?
    Yes! So glad he is gone...
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