prekilling your snake's prey by yourself?

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Originally Posted by royal morphz

not sure about you but my snakes are either for sale or show pieces for my business i for one dont want the chance for my snake to get bit and leave an ugly scar i mean ive seen some rats jump so quickly that my snakes only get the tail or rear leg and the i have a bite mark that may never go away so your responce about "what nature intended" is debunked because once we brought these animals into our lives they were not "wild" animals anymoe meaning we have to protect them from anything

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I've feed over 4000 live prey items since I've kept ball pythons. Not one of my animals has been injured or scarred as a result of feeding live. If I'd had even one injury - that would be .0004% of a chance of injury - extremely low risk.

If fed properly, live feeding is very low risk to your snakes. That being said, feed what works best for you. Buy f/t or use a CO2 chamber if you prefer not to feed live.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

I've feed over 4000 live prey items since I've kept ball pythons. Not one of my animals has been injured or scarred as a result of feeding live. If I'd had even one injury - that would be .0004% of a chance of injury - extremely low risk.

If fed properly, live feeding is very low risk to your snakes. That being said, feed what works best for you. Buy f/t or use a CO2 chamber if you prefer not to feed live.

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yes my statement was just in the attitude of how he worded his responce im in the same feeling as you feed how ever you want they are after all your animals but yes Robin you are correct i mean after all you have to get the babies going lol and it isnt gonna be on a lifeless prey item lol

My mom refuses to have frozen rats in her fridge too. Just do what I do, spend the same amount of money per feeding live, but buy one frozen rat at a time and defrost it as necessary.

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Originally Posted by djansen

:confused: WTF are you doing? I have never had them loose part of their head from thumping on the ground.

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Okay, part of there head caved in... whatever it's still creepy. It happened a couple of times before I got a Co2 setup, i had a hard time gauging how hard to hit, I figured harder was better than not hard enough.

Most of the time it's just blood coming out of the nose and ears, still ick.

What about just getting a mini freezer just for rats?

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Originally Posted by stormwulf133

What about just getting a mini freezer just for rats?

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I second you!!!

google cervical dislocation. very quick and painless.

if you make sure to hit their head only on the edge of a table or chair, its almost instant, way quicker than co2 and no mess like thumping them on the floor

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Oh good gods, people- what is your issue????

Thumping a rat to pre-kill??? Seriously barbaric and potentially insanely inhumane.

Why on earth do something like that when you can just give the live rodent to your snake and allow the normal process to commence???

Some people think that since we have taken the snakes out of the wild then their feeding instincts have changed? Or we try to change their feeding instincts? Oh please. And protect them from everything?? I can't even protect my own kids from everything!! No one has that amount of control; only the illusion of it.

If you fear that a larger rodent would harm the snake, feed multiples of mice. No big deal and not rocket science to figure out.

So, is it fine to thump a snake? No. Use a more compassionate method.

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Originally Posted by royal morphz

not sure about you but my snakes are either for sale or show pieces for my business i for one dont want the chance for my snake to get bit and leave an ugly scar i mean ive seen some rats jump so quickly that my snakes only get the tail or rear leg and the i have a bite mark that may never go away so your responce about "what nature intended" is debunked because once we brought these animals into our lives they were not "wild" animals anymoe meaning we have to protect them from anything

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Pretty sure they are still "wild". It's not like a domesticated dog or cat ha. But I do understand the whole bite/scar thing. I just know many ppl that feed live and havnt had a problem, me being one of them.