A little extreme.

I don't think it is too extreem. I have never been in jail, but was in the service. These guys are trained to look for reactions. They KNOW what they are doing and how far to push. NOTHING they do is random. Kids that are heading for trouble due to poor parenting or getting into the wrong click or what ever need to know real life is not easy. I would much rather they go through a program like this and decide that they never want to be in a jail. Than decide that they are tough little @#@!!. Kids are flooded with programs with people defying the law and comming out smelling like a rose, that it is easy to think nothing bad will ever happen.

I have a 17y.o son. I am happy to say he is a great kid, but when I was raising him I was not a push over. If he did somthing wrong he got corrected. I remember when he was small (about 3y.o) and he started grabbing things off a counter. I asked him to stop, he ignored me. I TOLD him to stop, he ignored me. I told him one more time and he was getting a swat, he still ignored me. SO he got a swat, he cried (it wasn't all that hard). A woman who saw this came up and told me I should be put in jail for child abuse. Come on ONE swat to a padded but???? I looked at her (I wasn't in the best of moods at the time) and told her "ok I won't disiplin him at all and when he wants to come into your house, rob you, rape you and then kill you, hey don't blame me I am not suppose to correct him when he dose something wrong." LOL now that was kinda harsh but good parents put up with a LOT of BS. There are a LOT of people who will tell you how to raise your kids (most never had children). But they are the parents responsibility. If they can't get it through to them then someone needs to before something bad happens to them or they do something to mess up their life in a huge way.


OK OK I am getting off my box,

That is right here down the road from me. And I will tell you its not too harsh for some of the kids running around here in OK.

I keep a very tight leash on my boys, at work however there are some kids running around that age that need that to wake them the heck up! Kids in the now are very rude and very grown up by the age of 10. Carrying guns, knives, robbing peoples homes, doing and or selling drugs. Its all sad really, but what do you expect from them when the parents are just not paying attention. Not all of them are like that here, but that news story was a good wake up call for a lot of kids in the OKC area that thought they could live a life of crime cuz they are minors.

I agree it's a little extreme, but that's not a bad thing. At 9 I was doing drugs and running with older kids, stealing, breaking into cars, and doing much more that I don't like to talk about. Luckily things went down that caused me to turn from that path, but if not, I'm sure something like this might have helped. Obviously I don't think it's for everyone. But if your child is starting to head down that road, I see absolutely nothing wrong with this. I'd rather my child have a few nightmares and be "traumatized" for a bit, then go out and rob a store and end up IN jail.

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Originally Posted by jhall1468

And the last 30 or so generations have been saying the same thing about previous generations. You have to realize our culture historically (and many cultures still today) recognized 9 to 11 years old as reasonable ages to marry off their daughters, usually to considerably older men. The youngest mother in the world was 5 years old, and she gave birth in 1933.

Personally, I don't think anything has changed that much from generation to generation, besides the flow of information. Sex has become a topic we can discuss, quite openly, and so it seems as though the world has come to an end.

No doubt, pre-teens were doing drugs and having sex 50 years ago too... it's just not something that was discussed.

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While I don't disagree with your statements, I don't completely agree, and I think this is kind of a cop out. While kids have always got into trouble, society and technology are constantly changing in a way that seems to be making it worse, when we're supposed to be advancing and "maturing" as a society.

In past generations, parents were allowed to, and expected to discipline their children, and now if you do that it's abuse. Old school hardcore gang bangers used to beat each other with bicycle chains and car antenas, but now gangs are getting younger and using AK-47s, Glocks and Uzis. In the '60s we had a hippy revolution that put recent, previous generations to shame with drug use, random sex and general chaos. Now this generation makes the the hippies look like care bears, with our violence, crystal meth and crack epidemics, teen pregnancies, HIV and STD epidemics, etc. I don't think any generation has been perfect, but to say nothing is changing, and that there's no need to worry about it is a misinformed cop out.

Pffft! There is nothing harder than Texas high school football for a kid..nothing. That stuff is a walk in the park compared to what we do on a daily basis. There are no sissys in our football team, and the ones that cant handle it quit after the first morning practice..


We haven't had very many pregnancys at our school in many years...very surprising.

I have to agree with you there. That is quit extreme for an 8 year old.

well to each their own opinion. If that's how a parent wants to raise their child, more power to them.