MSG Anyone?

Wow, you look great!

I eat as much raw produce as possible, most grown in my own garden, fertilized by all natural product (Chickens, goats, rabbits...all multi-purpose!) :D

My dogs also get an all-raw diet, and you wouldn't believe the difference in fur and teeth. We eat a meat product perhaps once a day, five or six nights on average, and like I mentioned, I know exactly where my meat came from, how it lived, how it was processed. It really makes for a better, healthier lifestyle and I wish everyone could try it, even though its not possible.

Edited to add: Let me just mention my milk/butter/cheese/ice cream is also raw. After seeing what I saw in a commercial milking plant, there is no way in HECK I would EVER touch commercial milk again. You don't even want to know, trust me. So now my milk/butter/cheese/ice cream all either comes from a neighbor with a few dairy cattle, or I make it myself with goat's milk. (Just as good as cow's milk I promise! You really cannot tell the difference.) I also plan on learning to make my own milk soaps later this year, and if it works out, I hope to have some to sell. :)

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Originally Posted by blackcrystal22

OOOkayy.
Animals are virtually my life at this point, and my beliefs contribute. I do not believe that death is negative and actually find many positive aspects of it. The reason I'm a vegetarian is because I disagree with the way that the animals are treated while they are alive. The whole 'they're gonna die anyway so lets treat them like their already dead' doesn't sit well with me. Plus I never really enjoyed eating meat that much..
What most people don't get, is that if I went out and hunted and killed an animal, I would eat it. When you hunt you look for the 'older' animals and animals that have been wild all their lives and have not had any torment. When killing, it's usually as quick as virtually possible.
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Ok, what do you mean by treating them like they are already dead?
From what I have experienced and read people don't hunt older animals or fish, they either taste bad or are tough it comes with the age of the animal. Some fish will have bugs in the meat too when they are older. Its nasty!

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Originally Posted by Epona142

Edited to add: Let me just mention my milk/butter/cheese/ice cream is also raw. After seeing what I saw in a commercial milking plant, there is no way in HECK I would EVER touch commercial milk again. You don't even want to know, trust me. So now my milk/butter/cheese/ice cream all either comes from a neighbor with a few dairy cattle, or I make it myself with goat's milk. (Just as good as cow's milk I promise! You really cannot tell the difference.) I also plan on learning to make my own milk soaps later this year, and if it works out, I hope to have some to sell. :)

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What was wrong with the milking plant?

Why don't you go to youtube and type in "meet your meat". Then you'll know what we're talking about.

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Originally Posted by Mindibun

Why don't you go to youtube and type in "meet your meat". Then you'll know what we're talking about.

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I want to hear from them!:gj:

Do you honestly want to know? Ergh.

Let's start with the fact it was filthy. The cows were living in mud constantly, which is really bad for their hooves. Their calves were immediately taken away and raised for veal. (Which means living in a tiny stall where they cannot even turn around, but that's another issue.)

The machines they were hooked up to were not properly matienenced. Some of the cows had crusty, scabby udders. Many had numerous health problems, including mastitis, an infection of the udder. Which, by the way, all of that gets into the milk.

Just the look in these poor cow's eyes was enough to turn me off from commercial milk. Not to mention, by the time you GET the milk, its little more than chalky water, having been pasteurized and homogenized to death.

Don't ask me where I saw this, because I'm no going to say, to prevent any possible legal repercussions. I wasn't really supposed to be there. :bolt:

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Originally Posted by Epona142

Do you honestly want to know? Ergh.

Let's start with the fact it was filthy. The cows were living in mud constantly, which is really bad for their hooves. Their calves were immediately taken away and raised for veal. (Which means living in a tiny stall where they cannot even turn around, but that's another issue.)

The machines they were hooked up to were not properly matienenced. Some of the cows had crusty, scabby udders. Many had numerous health problems, including mastitis, an infection of the udder. Which, by the way, all of that gets into the milk.

Just the look in these poor cow's eyes was enough to turn me off from commercial milk. Not to mention, by the time you GET the milk, its little more than chalky water, having been pasteurized and homogenized to death.

Don't ask me where I saw this, because I'm no going to say, to prevent any possible legal repercussions. I wasn't really supposed to be there. :bolt:

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Darn, there cows had mastits? Thats actually quite shocking. All the dairys I have seen are kept in tip top shape, and the cattle are superb!

sorry?

You're lucky then! I'm glad the ones you've been too are nice and clean. Dairies are supposed to be regulated, but all too often they are not as closely monitered as they should be. Same goes for all processing plants of this genre.

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Originally Posted by Epona142

Some of the cows had crusty, scabby udders. Many had numerous health problems, including mastitis, an infection of the udder. Which, by the way, all of that gets into the milk.

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This is part of what I found out when I was doing some research before I switched to organic milk. It is DISGUSTING what gets in your milk. Let me tell you, if you switch to organic milk you will not switch back. It tastes SO much better. It stays fresher in your fridge much longer, because it isn't already half rotten from the pus that is in it from the infected udders of the poor cows.

If you don't believe me, just check the dates on the organic milk in your grocery store and compare it to the dates on the regular milk. It is very common for me to find that the 1/2 gallon cartons of organic are dated to indicate they will last at least 2 weeks longer than the non-organic milk. There doesn't seem to be quite as big of a difference on the gallon cartons, don't know why that is.