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  • 08-04-2008, 09:49 PM
    Brock Wagner
    Re: Something New!
    Well here is a clue this awesome Queenbee male just hatched out of the same clutch! This is one if its siblings and wow I am beside myself by its beauty!

    Thanks for looking.
    Brock

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...004_912031.jpg
  • 08-04-2008, 09:52 PM
    stangs13
    Re: Something New!
    hmmmm


    Bumble bee champagne!

    Or a queen bee champagne.

    Or a queen champagne.
  • 08-04-2008, 09:56 PM
    MPenn
    Re: Something New!
    I am thinking champagne x lesser.

    What ever its ingredients, it is awesome Brock! Congrats! :gj:
  • 08-04-2008, 09:58 PM
    FatBoy
    Re: Something New!
    Brock...are you going to be in Daytona? You produce some really wonderful looking animals and I would love to meet you and talk.
  • 08-04-2008, 10:17 PM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: Something New!
    Brock you snakes are off the charts:gj:

    Congrats on another stunner. Cant wait to hear the details and see the whole clutch. Sounds like its gonna be one nice family picture:banana:
  • 08-04-2008, 11:00 PM
    Bill Buchman
    Re: Something New!
    Brock,

    I love your Champagnes, and the Mimosa is FANTASTIC. But I must ask as someone who would like to inject them into my breeding one day -- Are you concerned about any difficulties getting any distinct pattern in Champagne combos? Based on what you have seen, and know, by virtue of working with them to the extent your have -- I figured you would be the one to ask.:) Thanks, Bill
  • 08-05-2008, 06:15 AM
    Brock Wagner
    Re: Something New!
    Fatboy I will be in Daytona I will have a table with a stand up banner behind it so you shouldn't miss me plus I will be wearing Brock Wagner Reptile T shirts for most of the show. Grab ahold of me and say hi!

    Raul thanks for compliments as always I am gracious of your support! Can't wait to see in three weeks at Daytona and have some beers together. I am turned onto Bud Light lime right now so don't make fun of me!

    Cajun Bill- I totally understand where you are coming from with the Champagne gene turning everything patternless. I think that it is wild and I can't believe that the gene can wipe out pattern from every mutation that I have crossed it with. Now I am a snake geek so I think that it is cool all of the little things that the gene does do to the pattern. Such as on my Champagne Pinstripes it put dark blotches next to the dorsal striping and really cleaned them up and took the circles off of their bodies. Now the Lesser Champagne is the cool pink snake with the yellow dorsal stripe. As they are growing they are starting to color up more so I can't wait to see them at 500 grams. I have three of this new combo and they are not all the same. One hatched out that has yellow patterned blotches throughout its body and it is smoking hot.
    Now if you are wanting to work them you just have to understand that they are going to wipe out the pattern from what we know at this time. I think that it does what G stripes and super Cinnamon's do but just in a codom breeding so there is a lot of potential. To each their own and it all depends at what you are looking for. I still love a bright orange Champagne in all its glory! They are just beautiful. There are some more crosses that I can't wait to see happen so hopefully I will have some luck and be able to produce them in the next couple of years. I hope that this answered your question.

    Thanks
    Brock
  • 08-05-2008, 09:36 AM
    nelson77321
    Re: Something New!
    well i like it anyways, that queen bee is stunning, i cant figure out what it is though! can you put us out of our misory and tell us? lol
  • 08-05-2008, 02:08 PM
    Bill Buchman
    Re: Something New!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Brock Wagner View Post
    Fatboy I will be in Daytona I will have a table with a stand up banner behind it so you shouldn't miss me plus I will be wearing Brock Wagner Reptile T shirts for most of the show. Grab ahold of me and say hi!

    Raul thanks for compliments as always I am gracious of your support! Can't wait to see in three weeks at Daytona and have some beers together. I am turned onto Bud Light lime right now so don't make fun of me!

    Cajun Bill- I totally understand where you are coming from with the Champagne gene turning everything patternless. I think that it is wild and I can't believe that the gene can wipe out pattern from every mutation that I have crossed it with. Now I am a snake geek so I think that it is cool all of the little things that the gene does do to the pattern. Such as on my Champagne Pinstripes it put dark blotches next to the dorsal striping and really cleaned them up and took the circles off of their bodies. Now the Lesser Champagne is the cool pink snake with the yellow dorsal stripe. As they are growing they are starting to color up more so I can't wait to see them at 500 grams. I have three of this new combo and they are not all the same. One hatched out that has yellow patterned blotches throughout its body and it is smoking hot.
    Now if you are wanting to work them you just have to understand that they are going to wipe out the pattern from what we know at this time. I think that it does what G stripes and super Cinnamon's do but just in a codom breeding so there is a lot of potential. To each their own and it all depends at what you are looking for. I still love a bright orange Champagne in all its glory! They are just beautiful. There are some more crosses that I can't wait to see happen so hopefully I will have some luck and be able to produce them in the next couple of years. I hope that this answered your question.

    Thanks
    Brock

    Brock,

    I can see your wheels turning! The Super Cinny was the the one snake that came to mind -- even though as you noted -- it is a super.

    It might be worth trying a 2 to 1 ratio. A third pattern morph breed into any one of your existing combos. I.E. -- 2 pattern morphs + 1 Champagne = CRAZY PATTERN AND COLOR TRIPLE COMBO.:banana:

    Just my hunch:confused:...Mr. Wagner might consider a Cinny or Black Pastel in a breeding. 2 powerful color morphs, battling it out, might give you that elusive HIGH RED or ORANGE we so greatly desire in balls. Should be fun!;)
  • 08-06-2008, 01:20 PM
    Suz
    Re: Something New!
    thats a gorgeous snake, brock! :banana:
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